Going to go with no lol
Didn't know they existed to be honest.
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Vapage always win me back! I just got a call from Brian and he will be replacing my cracked chasis. I'm a happy camper again!
Have to say been my experience that is what they do....very well.
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He kicked it up a notch for me.. since I live a driving distance from Vapage. He let me pick up my replacement directly from Vapage!
Dastardly swine pulling that trick on you !
Will they stop at nothing to keep us happy !
Will they stop at nothing to keep us happy !
They are xtar 18700 3.7v 2600mAh Sanyo Protected batteries. xtar description says they have two improvements over 18650 Protected batts. Improved anti-drop and impact resistant PCB and increase the limiting current on the PCB to better handle high demands of high power devices.
Here is a post on CandlePowerForums showing some testing and comparisons - Xtar 18700 Batteries Test [ 2200-2400-2600 ]
They sound promising. Just waiting to get my XL so I can measure and see if they would fit in the chassis.
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FWIW I just measured the space with an 18650 installed. There's 3/16" of potential spring compression room (or likely have to cut the spring down some). 3/16" = 4.7625mm, so IF the 18700 is indeed 5mm longer than an 18650 then I'd say it won't fit.
I measured the battery space from plastic to plastic and come up with 2.8125" or 71.435mm so it's certainly CLOSE to fitting. The 18650's I have (UltraFire brand - I know, not the best but then I don't usually like 18650 mods) measure 66.675mm
So my batteries are 1.675mm longer than their "size" (the "65" from the 18650). If the 18700 follow that same pattern and are 1.675mm longer, so 71.675 than no they won't fit.
All that said, I think you CAN get them to fit! There's easily 1.5-2mm of additional length if you modify the spring end slightly. By removing the spring and the plastic retaining channels you'd have about 73mm, which the battery should fit in.
Of course without an accurate measurement of the batteries length it's hard to say definitavely but IMHO it's highly likely.
I measured the battery space from plastic to plastic and come up with 2.8125" or 71.435mm so it's certainly CLOSE to fitting. The 18650's I have (UltraFire brand - I know, not the best but then I don't usually like 18650 mods) measure 66.675mm
So my batteries are 1.675mm longer than their "size" (the "65" from the 18650). If the 18700 follow that same pattern and are 1.675mm longer, so 71.675 than no they won't fit.
All that said, I think you CAN get them to fit! There's easily 1.5-2mm of additional length if you modify the spring end slightly. By removing the spring and the plastic retaining channels you'd have about 73mm, which the battery should fit in.
Of course without an accurate measurement of the batteries length it's hard to say definitavely but IMHO it's highly likely.
BTW, I found a post by the same tester and it lists the length! Xtar 18700 batteries tested 2200-2400-2600 | BudgetLightForum.com
Xtar 18700 2200mAh Diameter - 18.4mm Length - 68.8mm
Xtar 18700 2400mAh Dia - 18.5mm L- 69.2mm
Xtar 18700 2600mAh [ Built on a Sanyo 2600mAh cell ] Dia- 18.5mm L-69.2mm
So if those are accurate (and I have no reason to believe they're not) it actually is slightly SHORTER than 70mm! They should fit without modifying any of the chassis, just the spring will likely have to be shortened.
Xtar 18700 2200mAh Diameter - 18.4mm Length - 68.8mm
Xtar 18700 2400mAh Dia - 18.5mm L- 69.2mm
Xtar 18700 2600mAh [ Built on a Sanyo 2600mAh cell ] Dia- 18.5mm L-69.2mm
So if those are accurate (and I have no reason to believe they're not) it actually is slightly SHORTER than 70mm! They should fit without modifying any of the chassis, just the spring will likely have to be shortened.
I'm sure you know this, but many many different 18650's button top, flat top, different mah, brands... the key is which fit and which don't.
I have a flat top P18650 AW that won't fit any mod i have; yet.
I have a flat top P18650 AW that won't fit any mod i have; yet.
Oh one question though... and here's where my battery naivety really shows... in the tests the AW 2600 actually appears to outperform the 18700's (or at least be equal to them)?
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/super-t-manufacturing/239453-aw-p18650-3100mah-introductory-sale.html
It looks to me like the Panasonic IMR would also fall right in there performance wise? http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/super-t-manufacturing/295446-load-testing-panasonic-imr-18650-2250mah-cgr18650ch-stock.html
What am I missing/misunderstanding? What benefit is there (with vaping loads) of the 18700 over an 18650?
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/super-t-manufacturing/239453-aw-p18650-3100mah-introductory-sale.html
It looks to me like the Panasonic IMR would also fall right in there performance wise? http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/super-t-manufacturing/295446-load-testing-panasonic-imr-18650-2250mah-cgr18650ch-stock.html
What am I missing/misunderstanding? What benefit is there (with vaping loads) of the 18700 over an 18650?
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Just an FYI, the UltraFire batteries I have are 18.6mm in diameter and they fit in the VMod. All the 18700's are slightly smaller in diameter (as are all the AW's if I'm not mistaken).
Question for you VModians: What's the purpose of this slot gap? Is it for airflow? Is it necessary?
Thanks!
Thanks!
Mine doesn't have a gap like that, screw the black collar down tighter and it should close up. Their are air holes in the actual collar.
no.. the cracks develop around the metal collar. mine started on the side.
My guess is it's part of that round thing not being quite flush. I do not have a gap now and there is no airflow difference.
If you take the alum. casing off, and look right above the bottle collar on the right side of the photo, where it's cut off, right below that is where mine had a crack.QUOTE=MastiffMike;6209634]
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