The Vmod XL 18650 Bottom Feeding Mod from Vapage - Part 2

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Ok, My XL has picked up a leakage problem, and I can't find where. I thought maybe it was from when the white o-ring inside where the bottle screws in came out (stuck to the bottle) but I got it back in properly and it's still doing it. I'm ending up with liquid along the sides above the bottle, in between the chassis and the outer shell. Any ideas?

EDIT: I believe I found the culprit. Cracks in the chassis along where the outside above where the bottle screws in. Are these the same cracks other people have had problems with?

2nd EDIT: Just got PM'ed about the problem by a Vapage rep, talk about awesome customer service!!!
 
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Did you try drilling or punching small air holes in the Vision Mini mouthpiece at around the same point where the holes are in the cone?

I didn't but the mouthpiece doesn't go into the cone far enough to block the holes anyway. I did just cut about half of the part of the mouthpiece off that goes into the cone (your post made me think maybe it was extending into the cone too far) but that didn't fix it.

I notice that when I use the empty atty tube (with standard driptip) that I get no vapor unless it goes down a little past the coil. It's almost like a definitive line where if the tube isn't insert far enough there's zero vapor but in a little further and boom, plumes.

I admit I'm not very knowledgable about how the VMods airflow works but it seems that you have to have a tube that extends to below the top of the chassis to force the airflow past the coil. If the tube is too short (or there isn't one as in the case of the mouthpiece directly on the cone) then the air just goes in the cone holes and out the mouthpiece without pulling vapor from the coil.

I guess I don't know enough to be sure but it seems like if the collar (the part the cone screws onto) had holes right above the threads it'd work? But then I'm guessing that'd mess up the juice feed system and leak?
 
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I just put up an "Ala Carte" VMod XL in the classifieds, with a replacement set of o-rings and a battery.

After some internal debating, I have decided against throwing any more money at a bottom feeder. I decided that "squonking" and bottom feeding in general just isn't what I'm looking for. I kept going back to my Riva with a Boge on it, and finally just built a $3 syringe tank that has made me a happy camper.

Thank you for your help though, Fernand, Andy, Tat_Skull, Chief Thunder, you guys rock. I do appreciate the time you guys put in trying to help me get it figured out, but if I'm gonna mess with an atty at 3.7v I'm just gonna drip.
 

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My Aero's stopped spitting after a few weeks and still enjoying them but if pressed into a corner have to say I think I prefer the LR 306.

So far this week had my 2 306's die on me and the Aero has started spitting again.

Not sure why it has started spitting. I am using a VG DIY in the Grand which is similar to how I used the Aero in the VMod other than being AVE Juice.

Time to stick a piece of plastic in the drip tip air hole again.
 

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It's weird how all them atties up and start spittin'. What i've found works best is to make sure the coil is soaked and saturated, and set the whole enchlada aside (switch to another PV). Come back to it later in the day, and it's no longer spittin' like it was.

@Sy, sorry to see ya go. I can't possibly use dripping as a solution, because I chain vape. I'd have to be one of them Indian Shivies with 12 arms and a tail.
 

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I do not get any spitting... I have to say that my technique is one of dreading overfeeding, so i make very slight feed moves.. I hate overfeeding so I would rather have less juice in the atty and if it's too dry i make the tiniest squonks.

i think this is a reason i've gone through so many atties though; lately i've gotten good at it so they are lasting longer.

I find the Aero is a superb atomizer...I use my b/f's on the run and with the wind blowing and car running, the Aero sometimes seems too mild. When i use it at home in the windless and quiet environment, i see what a smooth atty it is, and leave it on.
The only other atty's i'd consider using is a Cisco 1.5 or i06 1.5 for some real hard driving vapes.
I killed my i06 1.5 ... i think it's the nature of the beast.
 

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Have that Aero sitting in some VG soaking as an experiment for 24 hours.

Will blow it out and drip with it for a while to be a little more precise with its feeding requirements.

Odd part is it just started spitting without cleaning or much change.

Just to confirm....long barrels do fix spitting correct? Read that it does just want personal confirmation.

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No good.

I tried, I mean really tried to be VModless but it kept out of the Classifieds and mugged me, honest m'lud.

Hopefully my original will be back from it's Vapage vacation soon and as soon if not sooner will have Number 2.

Once I have both afraid the Reo is going into the classies. Nice, really is nice, but I want the vv version and there are other toys of genesis persuasion I want to play with.

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No good.

I tried, I mean really tried to be VModless but it kept out of the Classifieds and mugged me, honest m'lud.

Hopefully my original will be back from it's Vapage vacation soon and as soon if not sooner will have Number 2.

Once I have both afraid the Reo is going into the classies. Nice, really is nice, but I want the vv version and there are other toys of genesis persuasion I want to play with.

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I hope you get your V-MOD back. I guess this justifies that you like the V-MOD better! hehehe:D
 

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I'm not going too far. ;D The VMod helped me realize more about what I'm looking for in a device. The ease of use of an Riva / Tank setup, with the battery life and form factor of the VMod.

What I'm thinking would be my ultimate PV:

VMod XL form factor
finger grip grooves and a ergo thumb fire button
18650 battery
ability to hold a mini sub tank + carto on top
compartment underneath for a 10ml juice bottle
small compartment for a spare carto and atty
variable voltage with an LED

That'd be my go-to device. Fill and go. Open a trap door to refill the tank. If the carto blows, use the new one to push the old one out, refill and vape. Trying new flavors, just pop off the tank and pop on the atty. Too much to ask? :D
 
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Okay, what am I doing wrong? New unit, with Silo Cartomizer. Primed with 6 drops per the instructions. Re-assembled, and everything is snug/tight.

When I invert and prime, juice runs out the drip tip. Vaped a while, pumping periodically (in the vertical position) until I began to taste a dry burn. Invert and give one gentle squeeze, and juice out the drip tip.

What am I missing?

RodeoGeorge
 

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Probably nothing.

Bottom feeders and the VMod involve a learning curve as regards feeding.

Sounds to me as though you need to feed more often and less copiously. Experiment between inverting without squishing or squirshing. If the bottle is full try small taps of the bottle.

I usually struggle to get the balance right with cartos as well as I use attys most if the time.

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err on the side of conservative feeding... you can always add a little more.
better a dry vape than a flooded one imo... at least you get some vapor production.
If it is dry, stop firing immediately because you don't want to fry the coil ... don't invert it too much, just enough so gravity ensures juice at the tip of bottle ... then squeeze just enough as you would imagine 2 drops of juice (for atomizer).
The Silo cartomizer holds more but you need to fill it in increments a little at a time. It will last you longer than the atmizer (in my opinion the atomizer tastes better)


Okay, what am I doing wrong? New unit, with Silo Cartomizer. Primed with 6 drops per the instructions. Re-assembled, and everything is snug/tight.

When I invert and prime, juice runs out the drip tip. Vaped a while, pumping periodically (in the vertical position) until I began to taste a dry burn. Invert and give one gentle squeeze, and juice out the drip tip.

What am I missing?

RodeoGeorge
 

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Try a squonk insteead of a squeeze. No, seriously. Tilt til it's just leaning past horizontal and tap on the bottle.. It's just a quick short shallow squeeze. Once or twice. You don't wanna turn it upside down. The atomizer sure is nice and cleans up quickly with vinegar and baking soda.
 
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