The "Well its gotta be bad for you!" Mentality
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I think Posting Independent 3rd Party Verification of what is in an e-liquid would be a Fantastic Step in the Right Direction.
Where do I buy Diacety Free e-Liquids if I don't Know if what the vendor Claims is True?
This is where Independent Testing May Help.
It's already being done by several Canadian vendors, I'm sure there are some US ones too. Vote them with your wallet.
Yes, I think the current regulations protecting consumers are entirely sufficient. I strenuously object to this idea that e-cigs are somehow "special," requiring their own laws, committees, regulations, TAXES, or whatever else TPTB want to throw into the mix. That is just WRONG, that the gov't can just designate some consumer product and say we're going to regulate/tax that, it's sinful -- that's a religious judgment which has no place in our gov't, and it's also moral and economic fascism.
And yes, for whoever may bring it up, I've long felt that way about tobacco and alcohol, too, though I no longer partake of either.
Andria
There is also AEMSA members.
AEMSA | American E-Liquid Manufacturing Standards Association
But the Concept of AEMSA was meet with Very Mixed Reviews.
A vendor can disclose and test without necessarily being an AEMSA member.
Find one that has a product you like and stick with them.
I agree.
I just Posted AEMSA because I was Unsure if You or anyone else knew what they Are. And what they Do.
I heard about them and a controversy about WTA.
I am sure that there is a place in the market for a vendor that is not AEMSA affiliated but practices disclosure / testing / WTA as an option. Or you could get your liquid from AEMSA vendor and add WTA yourself. Or something to that effect.
The problem is when the govt stomps in, removes all options, and thou shall vape Vuse or nothing.
Trouble is the list of ingredients considered to be GRAS compliant might be really short.
Maybe. Maybe Not.
Flavoring Percentage in an e-Liquid is going to Play a Big Role.
And if a Flavorings is Shown to be a Problem, Isn't this something that people should Know About? Kinda that Informed Choice thing.
And Besides. People can Add Any Flavorings (or Colorants) via DIY if they want. Right?
I'm pretty sure the number of items on a list of ingredients considered GRAS for repeated daily inhalation in a personal vaporizer is exactly 0. Not because they aren't "safe" but because they haven't been fully tested in this application.
Just because something is not on the list as GRAS, does not necessarily mean it is a problem, that is the point.
no they can't put anything they want in e-juice.
if they make e-juice by definition they are using
FDA approved food or pharmaceutical grade
PG,VG,nicotine,flavors,colors and distilled water.
anything else is not e-juice per say.
some are extracting flavors and steeping tobacco
leaves but readily admit to doing so.
there is no vendor to date just dumping any old thing into e-juice.
mike
Didn't say it was. Didn't say it Wasn't.
But wouldn't it be Nice to Know that a Flavor has been shown to be GRAS for Direct Inhalation in the Amounts that are seen Daily by Vapers?
It would, but considering how things are going, it wouldn't surprise me one bit for the FDA to come out and say that all those GRAS food flavors (safe for DIGESTIVE INGESTION!) are poisonous for inhalation!
That would be right up there with Dow selling PG to anyone who wants to use it -- except ejuice makers. Andria
Not sure where this Definition came from?
As to putting Odd things in e-Liquids? Do you consider Titanium Dioxide a Odd Thing.
Don't get me wrong. I don't see Most Retailers Intentionally using something that is Known to be a Problem. The Vast Majority I believe want to put out a "Safe" product.
But the Vast Majority of Retailers do not have In-House Chemist or do Outside Verification of the Ingredients they use. They just rely on what their Vendors say in (or Not In) a 55 Gallon Drum of PG, VG or Nicotine Base.
It would, but considering how things are going, it wouldn't surprise me one bit for the FDA to come out and say that all those GRAS food flavors (safe for DIGESTIVE INGESTION!) are poisonous for inhalation!
Andria
It may be that Many Food Flavorings are Not GRAS for Direct Inhalation in the Levels found in many e-Liquids.
And DOW doesn't want to sell to the e-Cigarette market because they want to Limit their Liability. When a Smoker switches to e-Cigarettes and then gets Sick, can they argue that it was the e-Liquids that made them Sick? An then Sue the Ingredients Makers?
By definition...Really?
I guess Dekang and Liqua aren't really making e-liquid. Their ingredients aren't always FDA approved or pharma grade... Dekang even uses something which they call 'tar'...
I guess Dekang and Liqua aren't really making e-liquid. Their ingredients aren't always FDA approved or pharma grade... Dekang even uses something which they call 'tar'...
By definition...Really?
I guess Dekang and Liqua aren't really making e-liquid. Their ingredients aren't always FDA approved or pharma grade... Dekang even uses something which they call 'tar'...
Tar sounds like something akin to a tobacco extract, like NET. It isn't broken out in their FAQ. In fact, they specifically state that all ingredients are USP. The truth may depend on their honesty. I'd like to see the FDA require proof of ecig ingredient purity and safety. That would cost slightly more to the consumer, but I'd feel better about my future health.
Dekang juice purity FAQ
FAQ
They talk a good game about their products in this link.
http://www.dekangbio.com/
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