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Mowgli

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I wrote wizard labs a while back asking of they were worried about the whole FDA regulation deal and they said they weren't because nic is used in other applications. I'm still nervous though.

I'm not nervous. I'm stocked. I'll continue to stockpile when I can afford more but I'm GTG for 2.5 years now.
 

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Glass its not harsh, it an accurate critique of a business apparently quite alot out of sorts.

No Ice was never offered for sale directly on site. HOWEVER, it was said that should it "test well" it WOULD go into regular stock. Well the customers who used it have obviously spoken since then and it was a HUGE success. No denying that fact.

So to take this long for it to be introduced isnt harsh. Please dont get me wrong here. I love Wizard Labs and I know they try awefully hard but something is wrong in their business model if it takes months after moving to get back up to speed. I dont see the FDA "scare" as a reason for WL being backlogged and indundated anymore. The company has had plenty of time to recover from that.

Could it be a case of WL being so popular among customers (incl vendors) that they cannot meet demand? Sure. However, the market determines the breaking point where businesses fail or succeed and imo they are teetering there for some time now. I personally want to see WL stick around. Plenty of successful businesses end up out of business for the simple reason of not meeting the demand for their product. Sounds stupid, but it happens alot.

There are delays.... and then there is disaster. Something in the business model is askew if it takes this long for a company to iron out growing pains and move forward. Regardless of demand.

Heck, I did business development for some of the biggest internet companies out there for well over a decade. Id help John as an advisor for free. So please dont think Im bashing WL here. Im thinking out loud.

I do think your criticism IS a bit harsh! ICE was NEVER offered for sale on the website. It's existence and availability has always been a word-of-mouth, underground kind of thing. I don't feel that John should be taken to task for not being able to keep up with the demand. He never promised a consistent supply, at least that I'm aware of. Any promises were certainly not made publicly.
........ Just after the Nicotine frenzy earlier this year, I hit a small window where I could order a quantity of nicotine. I waited 5 weeks in order to fill this order with ICE. It was well worth the wait. I use only ICE in making my juice, and I love the way it allows the flavorings to shine.
 

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Id be more than happy. Getting me out of retirement tho will require a retainer (non-refundable) and $220 an hour. I have plenty of references. I rarely do freebies. Gordon gets paid. Im pretty sure much more than what Im asking... lol. So im a bargain!

Ok, I jest... well, half jest. That is what I used to charge.
 

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My stuff shipped today, yay! Ordered on the 8th, shipped on the 12th - not bad!
Kinda bummed it's shipping over the weekend, only because of that extra day of waiting (obviously not their fault)

So anyway.. I have 500ml of 60mg nic coming, which should last me a while... but I still feel like I should get at least a liter or two of 100mg nic to store in the freezer for the apocalypse!
 
Luv This (post by glassmanoak)!

I had gotten so tired of looking up different threads/posts/likes about different flavors etc. that I finally decided to create myself an excel file with all that info, I only added the flavors I currently have (which is 65 ATM)... I added this info as "notes" as it's so helpful :).

Not done yet, but I included columns for Flavors (with flavor notes), size, base (pg,pga,can etc), percent recommended to use (compliments of the TFA flavor thread), Company manufacturer, purchased from, cost and quantity.

Still have to look up some FA stuff for percentages, and not all the flavors I have are not yet listed on the above mentioned thread for percentages, but I think it will help me to have a ready made list to look thru when experimenting :)

Can you send a copy.
 

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Thanks for the spreadsheet! I have a of of the same flavors and do keep an inventory, to avoid duplications, but your notes are a great help.


No problem, and Thanks :)

I found it was easier to do a spreadsheet than to drag everything out all the time. My stuff isn't very well organized :blink:

Feel free to add anything I might have missed to the comments in the blog and I'll update the spreadsheet and re-upload as time allows. I also just remembered I have some flavors to add to it also.

I think that the TPA flavor thread has been updated since I last updated but I haven't checked in awhile.
 

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How long is it talking you guys to get an order shipped out. Ordered on the 11th and still no confirmation...

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I ordered on the 8th and mine shipped out on the 12th - but I also didn't have anything out of stock in my cart - I think that will play a big role.
 

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If there is anyone I can trust, it's WL. Get a teat kit if you're unsure, but they are a top notch supplier. IMO.

I spoke with them and they were backed up .Good for them..The woman I spoke with (Susan)gave detailed info on the status of the order ad 321-422-0803 care of my request promptly... A++ for the customer service..

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