The plastic jars that the nic comes in do not have droppers.
The cobalt ones have droppers.
Use aber brown 60mL bottles for storing nic.
The cobalt ones have droppers.
Use aber brown 60mL bottles for storing nic.
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How much does it really matter? Of course, store in a cool, dry place. But, glass amber bottle rather than the original blue plastic, what's the difference? I was thinking I might even just separate my nic into old 120 ml empty plastic PG and VG containers that I've saved.
Is that such a terrible idea? Should I buy amber glass instead?
Honestly I don't think it is that big of a deal.
I mean, we are talking about nic from John- One of the most reliable vendors around. I seriously doubt he would send us nic in a container that would corrode.
Hell, storing it in the plastic might be even better now that I think about it. If you drop it, it is less likely to break.
I still prefer to store mine in glass though.
This has got me wondering now. I am going to send him a message and ask what kind of plastic is used. Theres got to be a reason everyone suggested glass bottles to me when I first started out.
I mean, we are talking about nic from John- One of the most reliable vendors around. I seriously doubt he would send us nic in a container that would corrode.
Hell, storing it in the plastic might be even better now that I think about it. If you drop it, it is less likely to break.
I still prefer to store mine in glass though.
This has got me wondering now. I am going to send him a message and ask what kind of plastic is used. Theres got to be a reason everyone suggested glass bottles to me when I first started out.
Let me know what he says.
It might make a difference where you store it. Especially the extreme difference between storing in the freezer compared to storing in the back of a closet. Unfortunately, with 3 grandsons in the house, there's no way I could store anything like nicotine in such a public place as a freezer!
You might want to hold off on that until I get a response. The dark bottles that he sends the nic in(I have no clue why the hell you guys are saying they are blue) Are ever so slightly see through. The white ones he sends the PG and VG in are not and may be made of a different material.
Oh yeah. It absolutely makes a difference. I think temperature is a BIG factor. My first bottle of nic I kept on my mixing desk when I first started. Once I was 3/4th the way through it had a nasty chemical/fetid smell. Now I store my nic in the freezer at a very cold temperature. It doesn't freeze.
What you can do is find a small box or build one yourself that can be locked and keep it in the back of your freezer. Make sure to get one that is air tight and let the kids know whats in it- A very dangerous toxic poison. Perhaps even do a demonstration. Nicotine is an insecticide. You could take a clear glass, flip it upside down and put a grasshopper under it with a drop of your nic. No doubt it will die very quickly; as you talk about how dangerous it is.
I will post his response in this thread as soon as I get it.
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Wow, this thread has been so helpful. I am truly grateful for all the smart dorks that lurk this forum, teaching me their awesome wisdom
Anyways, the reason I chose 100% PG nic was because I heard it dissolves flavors better?? Although... now that I think about it... it wouldn't matter if I made the nic base first then added flavoring. Ahh.. confusing myself again. Is there any reason for the whole blue vs brown bottle thing other than the type of top it comes with? And should I really store my nicotine juice in the freezer? All of my current juices (including ones I haven't touched in FOREVERRR) are just sitting with the cap off on top of some table in my room. I always thought they were getting extra steeped and better!! But I guess not? They will eventually turn fetid and like wet socks?! Noo!! What if they're like that already?!! Maybe I'll just mix those together for now since I'll never vape those juices anyways unless I run out during the zombie apocalypse... ok.. yes.. I've been drinking.
But yea... I need to re-read this all later. I am proud of not making too many tpyos however ^_^
Anyways, the reason I chose 100% PG nic was because I heard it dissolves flavors better?? Although... now that I think about it... it wouldn't matter if I made the nic base first then added flavoring. Ahh.. confusing myself again. Is there any reason for the whole blue vs brown bottle thing other than the type of top it comes with? And should I really store my nicotine juice in the freezer? All of my current juices (including ones I haven't touched in FOREVERRR) are just sitting with the cap off on top of some table in my room. I always thought they were getting extra steeped and better!! But I guess not? They will eventually turn fetid and like wet socks?! Noo!! What if they're like that already?!! Maybe I'll just mix those together for now since I'll never vape those juices anyways unless I run out during the zombie apocalypse... ok.. yes.. I've been drinking.
But yea... I need to re-read this all later. I am proud of not making too many tpyos however ^_^
LMFAO
The best way I can describe the smell is it is like nasty chemicals.
Or you can take them and just put them in a box as is and put it in the back of your refrigerator.
It is a better flavor carrier. Meaning you have to use less flavoring in high PG mixes to get the same amount to come through while vaping.
Meh, not really. They are both darkened bottles used to store juice/nic to prevent light from decomposing the nicotine down into its tobacco specific nitrosamines. Which we allll know, are cancer carcinogens.
Yes, Most defiantly. While letting already made juice sit out to steep and oxidize slightly to enhance the flavor, it will have the exact opposite effect on unmixed nicotine. Once a juice has steeped and oxidized just enough it should be kept in the refrigerator or freezer to prevent further decomposition of the nicotine.
They can only become so steeped. Once their flavor reaches the maximum potential the only thing left oxidizing is the nicotine. Which as I said before tastes f'ing disgusting when it gets old. I've never had a mix start to taste like nasty nic from over steeping. Then again, I freeze it after a week or so to prevent that. If your wet socks smell like old nic you should clean your feet more often.
The best way I can describe the smell is it is like nasty chemicals.
Only 1 way to find out! heheh
Good idea. I reccomend a 60mL brown glass bottle. lmao
Or you can take them and just put them in a box as is and put it in the back of your refrigerator.
Oh really?
You did good kyi. You did good.
If you are going to freeze it put it in glass amber/dark bottles--I use old Twinlab vitamin bottles and remove the labels.
I'm using some empty Solgar bottles and add a saran wrap layer under the cap. If I could cut rubber accurately enough I'd replace the plastic cap liner with rubber instead.
So to summarize^
It would be best to split up your nic into smaller glass bottles to minimize air exposure and oxidization.
Putting it in an empty PG/VG bottle would be better than the bottle the nic comes in, so long as you label it.
It would be best to split up your nic into smaller glass bottles to minimize air exposure and oxidization.
Putting it in an empty PG/VG bottle would be better than the bottle the nic comes in, so long as you label it.
Thanks. That's good to know. And, I've got lots of empty PG/VG bottles.
I have one more question. I know, it never ends!
Sun Harvest has amber 100 ml glass bottles that come with a dropper cap on it. The actual dropper is glass and just comes right out of the cap. What's left is a cap with rubber in it. Would the rubber in the cap be a problem if I wanted to use that bottle for putting nic in the freezer?
I'm not a chemist. lol
It depends on what it is made out of. The nic may leach chemicals out of it.
Also, it would be better to store nic in smaller bottles.
It depends on what it is made out of. The nic may leach chemicals out of it.
Also, it would be better to store nic in smaller bottles.
That's what I was afraid of.
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Plus, one added benefit is that it's easier to tell how much you have left and, therefore, when to order more.
Confirmed it does not have the Diacetyl in it. I found out after I bought it though. Its buried here in these forums somewhere. You can find it if you search for wilton or butter. I was happy to find out I can use it with impunity.
Peter
Great you had me worried. And I was away from internet and could not get back to check.
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i just received my first order from Wizard Labs and I am so pleased! I ordered a ton of different TFA flavorings so Im going to be reviewing a lot if not all of them that I received.
my order came today. Mixed up about 50ml of EM crystal solution. That should last me awhile haha.
Mixed up 5mls 20%flavor(60%absinth,30%french vanilla,10%sweet cream, with 1 drop EM)
Pretty good right out the gate.
Mixed up 5mls 20%flavor(60%absinth,30%french vanilla,10%sweet cream, with 1 drop EM)
Pretty good right out the gate.
Well after the past discussion on storing nic, I went on a hunt to find more bottles at affordable costs with affordable shipping...So many places charge an arm and a leg for shipping!
Found this place ... https://www.essentialsupplies.com/ ...Very cheap (but you have to buy at least 12 or more), and it's the only place I found that sells just the caps or droppers separate from the bottles. Bottles come without caps or droppers but are $5 for 12 30ml amber....12 regular caps are $2.24 and each dropper $.39 for that size bottle.
Figured I'd take Johns advice and store nic in the smaller 30ml bottles to avoid opening and closing larger bottles all the time. Plus I want to stock up on more nic in case FDA does something stupid in April
and needed to stock up on bottles for that.
They have any size and color you need, including plastic.
I bought 2 dozen 30ml amber, 12 cobalt 30ml, 20 droppers and 3x12 caps. Shipping came to $11.48. Ordered Wed eve and received shipping confirmation Thur. that says delivery by Mon. Not too bad!
The prices were better than specialty bottle, the selection as well and the ship cost was way lower than any other place I looked at.
If you're only looking for a few bottles...WI has the best prices, but if you need some bottles in bulk, essentialsupplies may be worth a look!
Edit: They're based in CA which may effect ship cost for you east coasters.
Found this place ... https://www.essentialsupplies.com/ ...Very cheap (but you have to buy at least 12 or more), and it's the only place I found that sells just the caps or droppers separate from the bottles. Bottles come without caps or droppers but are $5 for 12 30ml amber....12 regular caps are $2.24 and each dropper $.39 for that size bottle.
Figured I'd take Johns advice and store nic in the smaller 30ml bottles to avoid opening and closing larger bottles all the time. Plus I want to stock up on more nic in case FDA does something stupid in April
and needed to stock up on bottles for that.They have any size and color you need, including plastic.
I bought 2 dozen 30ml amber, 12 cobalt 30ml, 20 droppers and 3x12 caps. Shipping came to $11.48. Ordered Wed eve and received shipping confirmation Thur. that says delivery by Mon. Not too bad!
The prices were better than specialty bottle, the selection as well and the ship cost was way lower than any other place I looked at.
If you're only looking for a few bottles...WI has the best prices, but if you need some bottles in bulk, essentialsupplies may be worth a look
!Edit: They're based in CA which may effect ship cost for you east coasters.
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In regards to opening bottles many times, why not get pierceable screw caps. I've got a couple for now and going to order more, and they work pretty good. Not sure who else might have them, I get mine from MFS. 
Not a complaint just an observation, the empty ldpe bottles from wizard labs appear to hold about 2 ml more than the stated amount, which can be great for mixing but looks kind of silly when you mix up a 3ml bottle and have 2 ml of empty space. No big deal just more information for everyone. BTW my order came fast and correct, wonderful service as always, plus they sent me a sample of peanut butter flavor mmmm.
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