These responses are just so irritating to a new member

[Legolas]

I don't own a provari and I don't understand why people try to shoot holes through it. It's not all that expensive compared to other upper end apv, mod etc.. So in my thinking that throws out the "status symbol" theory. I know its only vv and I like vw. The only reason I would want to buy one is I hate my current device not giving me the same vape throughout my vaping day. That is reason enough for me to buy one. I dread looking at my mod and seeing my battery charge is at 3.6 or less. I know that I won't get that same vape I was getting 15 minutes ago. I've been holding off awaiting the next version but I'm getting antsy. Sorry I'm rambling and off topic.

 

[RebelGolfer72]

I don't own a provari and I don't understand why people try to shoot holes through it. It's not all that expensive compared to other upper end apv, mod etc.. So in my thinking that throws out the "status symbol" theory. I know its only vv and I like vw. The only reason I would want to buy one is I hate my current device not giving me the same vape throughout my vaping day. That is reason enough for me to buy one. I dread looking at my mod and seeing my battery charge is at 3.6 or less. I know that I won't get that same vape I was getting 15 minutes ago. I've been holding off awaiting the next version but I'm getting antsy. Sorry I'm rambling and off topic.

Good points, and perspective. To further the point on price, there are VV/VW mods that are over $100 more than the ProVari, as well as some $100 less and many in between (one popular one the itaste 134 is $135 at most places. So $25 less? Less than 2 movie tickets. Likewise the average mech mod (non clone, not mass Produced) averages $185 (nemesis). So it really is not an unfair price.

I will even give the "troll posts" the benefit of doubt and say that yes, there are some who will use it as a status symbol. Most don't, but some do. But if you think of it, I'm sure some who make the claims also own one or more "clone" mech mod or atty. in some cases those may be purchased for certain features "on a budget", but to many, there is a status they are trying to maintain by using the clone (hoping it passes as the real deal)



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[jrenae4]

ProVape has been good about not leaving customers hanging by offering upgrades.. I'm confident that they will follow suit with whatever new tech being worked on, and will fit our existing tubes. With their reputation to protect, whatever it is will be reliable, so I wouldn't expect it too soon. I see no reason to wait if you want to enjoy one now...

I'll just go ahead and ignore your "grumble" and say it's just my excuse to not drop the $$ at this very moment I'm still in the talking myself out of it phase LOL

 

[zapped]

I'll just go ahead and ignore your "grumble" and say it's just my excuse to not drop the $$ at this very moment I'm still in the talking myself out of it phase LOL

Do you go to any local vapemeets? If so its a great way to try one out various mods for yourself and also to meet some great people. At ours in Richmond Va we have a juice table where people leave the juices they dont like for others to try and also raffles with some nice items donated by vendors. Theyve also had workshops teaching people how to coil.

Might be worth looking to see if theres any in your area. I know I always have a good time and learn something when I go.

 

[The Ocelot]

I don't own a provari and I don't understand why people try to shoot holes through it. It's not all that expensive compared to other upper end apv, mod etc.. So in my thinking that throws out the "status symbol" theory. I know its only vv and I like vw. The only reason I would want to buy one is I hate my current device not giving me the same vape throughout my vaping day. That is reason enough for me to buy one. I dread looking at my mod and seeing my battery charge is at 3.6 or less. I know that I won't get that same vape I was getting 15 minutes ago. I've been holding off awaiting the next version but I'm getting antsy. Sorry I'm rambling and off topic.

The thing we've been saying though is that the VW market is saturated and VV/VW are just two methods to get to the same place. What motivation does ProVape have to go through the expense of creating a whole different system when their target customers don't care? When you only use a few toppers, all roughly the same resistance (as most of their customers do), a ProVari is as much of a set it and forget it as VW. Both methods have a starting points and then are fine tuned. One doesn't need Ohm's Law when you buy a 2.0Ω Protank head and know you like it around 4v.

I'm not trying to sell you on getting one, I'm just pointing out that ECF members aren't their target customers. They will come out with a Hybrid color with purple and/or pink in it and sell more than VW.

 

[p.opus]

I'll just go ahead and ignore your "grumble" and say it's just my excuse to not drop the $$ at this very moment I'm still in the talking myself out of it phase LOL

If you want to stay in the "talking myself out of it phase" then by no means do not go to any Vape meets or any Vape stores and For GOD's Sake, DON'T USE ONE!!!!!! Believe me it will make you question everything you believe in. It will wreck you.

I don't believe the ProVari "hits" any better than an MVP2, but just how it sits in your hand, how it feels how consistent it is. It's amazing.

Even when you stare down the tube you see all the stuff in there, and at first think that ProVape is cheaping out. Why no smoked screen, why no divider between the control head and the battery?

It's because these things are designed to be abused. If one falls into liquid, most likely you can dry it out and it will continue to work.

Of course no self respecting ProVari owner would do something foolish like intentionally throwing their APV in the toilet (cough....cough...) but of the APV's I have, the ProVari is the one that I am most comfortable would work if such a heinous act were performed.

I am all for all the suggestions people have for ProVape as it pertains to upgrading their product, but only as to go as far as none of the traditional ruggedness of the ProVari is compromised.

If a Variable Wattage chipset made the unit less rugged, then lose variable wattage. If the LED's provide the maximum toughness, then keep the old school display. If the use of another chipset eliminates something like reverse battery protection, lose the chipset.

I want the ProVari's toughness to take priority. I spent nearly $200.00 on this thing, and not because it can wash my clothes. As long as it does what it does and is insanely reliable in doing so, I am all good.

 

[The Ocelot]

If you want to stay in the "talking myself out of it phase" then by no means do not go to any Vape meets or any Vape stores and For GOD's Sake, DON'T USE ONE!!!!!! Believe me it will make you question everything you believe in. It will wreck you.

I don't believe the ProVari "hits" any better than an MVP2, but just how it sits in your hand, how it feels how consistent it is. It's amazing.

Even when you stare down the tube you see all the stuff in there, and at first think that ProVape is cheaping out. Why no smoked screen, why no divider between the control head and the battery?

It's because these things are designed to be abused. If one falls into liquid, most likely you can dry it out and it will continue to work.

Of course no self respecting ProVari owner would do something foolish like intentionally throwing their APV in the toilet (cough....cough...) but of the APV's I have, the ProVari is the one that I am most comfortable would work if such a heinous act were performed.

I am all for all the suggestions people have for ProVape as it pertains to upgrading their product, but only as to go as far as none of the traditional ruggedness of the ProVari is compromised.

If a Variable Wattage chipset made the unit less rugged, then lose variable wattage. If the LED's provide the maximum toughness, then keep the old school display. If the use of another chipset eliminates something like reverse battery protection, lose the chipset.

I want the ProVari's toughness to take priority. I spent nearly $200.00 on this thing, and not because it can wash my clothes. As long as it does what it does and is insanely reliable in doing so, I am all good.

You might consider adding a Reo to your collection. You can drop those in the toilet, then just wash them in the sink and let them dry.

 

[RebelGolfer72]

If a Variable Wattage chipset made the unit less rugged, then lose variable wattage. If the LED's provide the maximum toughness, then keep the old school display. If the use of another chipset eliminates something like reverse battery protection, lose the chipset.

I think (without knowing the circuit of the ProVari board, I can only assume with my electrical knowledge) the fact that to make it variable wattage would add to the complexity of code and or take too much from the processor. I'd rather have processor cycles being used to create a stable output than to do additional convenience calculation. Also less code=less room for errors. Then there is the fact that a lot of the basic logic behind what the Provari does can be done mostly at the hardware level, where something like an eVic would be mostly software.

I also believe that the use of the mechanical revers battery protection (aka the notch and "forced" use of button top batteries) makes this design much better. I can guarantee that designing and building that notch in there costs more per board than a cheap diode would. BUT a reversal protection diode is one more component that could possibly fail. Furthermore, the use of a diode is going to chop 0.7v off of the battery output. So think of it this way, there is more power available to the circuitry than there is in other mods.




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[Legolas]

The thing we've been saying though is that the VW market is saturated and VV/VW are just two methods to get to the same place. What motivation does ProVape have to go through the expense of creating a whole different system when their target customers don't care? When you only use a few toppers, all roughly the same resistance (as most of their customers do), a ProVari is as much of a set it and forget it as VW. Both methods have a starting points and then are fine tuned. One doesn't need Ohm's Law when you buy a 2.0Ω Protank head and know you like it around 4v.

I'm not trying to sell you on getting one, I'm just pointing out that ECF members aren't their target customers. They will come out with a Hybrid color with purple and/or pink in it and sell more than VW.

No need to sell me the idea of this purchase. I am sold I just need to procrastinate.

 

[EddardinWinter]

You might consider adding a Reo to your collection. You can drop those in the toilet, then just wash them in the sink and let them dry.

Or just leave them there and push the handle....



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[The Ocelot]

No need to sell me the idea of this purchase. I am sold I just need to procrastinate.

I just won a medal in that at Sochi for my flawless Shall I go out in the snow to the mailbox? routine!

 

[Nermal]

The Sacred Text of Manual

Avoidance of The Flame
Chapter one
Verse one

Despite the Blessed ProVari being one of the most marvelous devices on the planet, it is strongly recommended not to suggest it to other vapers unless they have expressed genuine interest. Otherwise, it is fodder for the rabid AntiProVarians and will only subject us to further abuse and satiric chants of Just Get a ProVari!

Mere words cannot express my joy at not having to contend with APV as a new abbreviation. Blessed be the restrained.

 

[jrenae4]

Do you go to any local vapemeets? If so its a great way to try one out various mods for yourself and also to meet some great people. At ours in Richmond Va we have a juice table where people leave the juices they dont like for others to try and also raffles with some nice items donated by vendors. Theyve also had workshops teaching people how to coil.

Might be worth looking to see if theres any in your area. I know I always have a good time and learn something when I go.

I WISH my area had something cool like that! I am totally a lone vaper...a black sheep But I'm going to Vapefest in DC! Yay!

 

[denali_41]

Avoidance of The Flame
Chapter one
Verse one

Despite the Blessed ProVari being one of the most marvelous devices on the planet, it is strongly recommended not to suggest it to other vapers unless they have expressed genuine interest. Otherwise, it is fodder for the rabid AntiProVarians and will only subject us to further abuse and satiric chants of Just Get a ProVari!

and i honestly believe of those anti's.a mere 1 out of 10.000 have actually held one,,and even higher to those that have vaped one

most of the anti's are simple posers

 

[RebelGolfer72]

and i honestly believe of those anti's.a mere 1 out of 10.000 have actually held one,,and even higher to those that have vaped one

most of the anti's are simple posers

It's like that on the golf forums as well. Not a huge difference between brands, but by all means, anytime something is mentioned about TaylorMade, and it's a 20 page brawl between the "haters and the fanboys"


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