I have it set to 350, 215C and 16w. It's not bad at all. I just re-coiled yesterday. I had a huuuuuuge coil on the flash-e before and if was giving me problems so I redid it 26ga 2.5mm id about 5.5 wraps. Resistance came out to .2ish cold.
Titanium wire, vaping and safety
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I just found out Cloudmaker is going to offer the dna 200 on the first on sale day of the Whiteout modular mod. I've been watching this for a long time and have one of their "500" discount tokens.
I'd planned on going with the SX 350 J chip but now that I know there will be the option to go DNA 200 and revert to the SX if I don't like DNA...gotta rethink this whole thing. Mod day is July 1. Gotta think long and hard before then.
I think they will ship anywhere in the world Bloke.
Duane
I'd planned on going with the SX 350 J chip but now that I know there will be the option to go DNA 200 and revert to the SX if I don't like DNA...gotta rethink this whole thing. Mod day is July 1. Gotta think long and hard before then.
I think they will ship anywhere in the world Bloke.
Duane
Changed my coef to 380. I think I do like this better. I dunno. I'm seriously thinking about just going back to kanthal. My experience with tc has been "meh". So much fiddling for just a minor benefit.
I've been usin the new eVic TC for a couple days now. I'm still using the Ni coil though. It comes with a Ti coil also which I can't wait to try. I must admit that TC is incredible. 55 watts to start. 450F limit. Never get a burnt taste and puts out some clouds. I could go higher but I'm happy with that setting so far.
Yeah, it's a great little mod. Kinda shame it seems miss advertised as having 5000mah. Someone opened one up and it appears to be 4500mah.
Mine has been working very well, especially with my dual coil build on a mutation x. Ridiculous clouds without a dry hit.
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Tony
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Upped my Ti coefficient to 390. Finally getting the kind of vape I like. Also, I was trying to push my coil down w bit in the flash -e and I almost messed it up... After I straightened it out the vape got waaaaay better. No idea what I did, but it worked whatever it was lol.
You have US-sourced Titanium right, Arthur? Interestingly I just verified my German Titanium as having TCR 0.0035, ie 350 is the right setting based on the monitored temperature of a dry coil
But your US Ti may well have a different TCR. And it could also be that you have your temperature too low and in setting the TCR higher you're achieving a higher temp that you prefer.
What temp setting do you have? You could try lowering the TCR again but increasing the temp; unless it's already at 230°C (450°F) or thereabouts.
But as I say it could just be that the US Ti is a higher TCR to begin with.
But your US Ti may well have a different TCR. And it could also be that you have your temperature too low and in setting the TCR higher you're achieving a higher temp that you prefer.
What temp setting do you have? You could try lowering the TCR again but increasing the temp; unless it's already at 230°C (450°F) or thereabouts.
But as I say it could just be that the US Ti is a higher TCR to begin with.
How have you taken the measurements, bloke? IR thermo, or thermocouple? Nice, anyway [emoji57]
PS: you're an early raiser, apparently.. Ah, what people does, in the name of science.. [emoji13]
PS: you're an early raiser, apparently.. Ah, what people does, in the name of science.. [emoji13]
USB logging Thermocouple with 1-second response time bare-wire Type K probe (the thin wire wrapped around the metal pole in below picture; the metal pole itself is another probe I got but found to be useless for measurement, so I'm just using it as a stick for the bare wire probe!)
Sounds like a good spot! I'm guessing you'll be turning the temp up, but always better to start too low than too high. Well, not always, but in this case I say it is.
Oh and no, I am never an early riser. I am however very often an extremely late .. un-riser? Dropper?
Uh, right, it was the other way around.. You were still awake 1h (and 1 time zone) earlier than me rising, LOL [emoji106]Oh and no, I am never an early riser. I am however very often an extremely late .. un-riser? Dropper?
Phil Busardo just posted this on Facebook. Nothing we don't already know/assume, but good to have it out in the open.
For those interested from the thread below regarding TI safety, the following is a statement from Pedro Carvalho of Caravela Mods he's allowing me to share.
Pedro holds a PhD in material science. He's also a postdoctoral researcher in material science and has more than 20 scientific peer reviewed publications.
Thanks Pedro!
And even though I'm sharing this, I'll tell you what I always do... IF YOU DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE USING IT... DON'T USE IT!!
This is not designed to condone the use of the material, just to pass some information along.
1) Do everything with vaping at your own risk!!
2) The safest way to vape is to not vape at all... just don't smoke either!!
"Without performing any scientific research on this issue and based only on my experience with titanium and titanium dioxide coatings, I would say that is reasonable "safe" as long as the titanium wire is shiny!
Even with heat treatment (dry burns) the naturally occurring titanium dioxide growth should be very thin and have high adhesion to titanium wire.
What I recommend is to dry burn (unless the process has already been done by the wire manufacturer) until the titanium wire remains shiny! If it’s shiny the oxide layer is thin and should present high adhesion to titanium wire.
Even at room temperature all titanium produces a "protection” layer of titanium dioxide, however, I believe the adhesion to the metal will protect the vaper.
Although I have no experience with NI200 wire, based on my personal experience, I would choose TI wire over NI200 wire.
Please note however, that Titanium dioxide is classified as carcinogenic 2, it means that can be carcinogenic to humans. So please do use it at your own risk.
I plan on doing a study of these wires and all wires used in vaping in the near future and look forward to sharing the results with you.”
Pedro holds a PhD in material science. He's also a postdoctoral researcher in material science and has more than 20 scientific peer reviewed publications.
Thanks Pedro!
And even though I'm sharing this, I'll tell you what I always do... IF YOU DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE USING IT... DON'T USE IT!!
This is not designed to condone the use of the material, just to pass some information along.
1) Do everything with vaping at your own risk!!
2) The safest way to vape is to not vape at all... just don't smoke either!!
"Without performing any scientific research on this issue and based only on my experience with titanium and titanium dioxide coatings, I would say that is reasonable "safe" as long as the titanium wire is shiny!
Even with heat treatment (dry burns) the naturally occurring titanium dioxide growth should be very thin and have high adhesion to titanium wire.
What I recommend is to dry burn (unless the process has already been done by the wire manufacturer) until the titanium wire remains shiny! If it’s shiny the oxide layer is thin and should present high adhesion to titanium wire.
Even at room temperature all titanium produces a "protection” layer of titanium dioxide, however, I believe the adhesion to the metal will protect the vaper.
Although I have no experience with NI200 wire, based on my personal experience, I would choose TI wire over NI200 wire.
Please note however, that Titanium dioxide is classified as carcinogenic 2, it means that can be carcinogenic to humans. So please do use it at your own risk.
I plan on doing a study of these wires and all wires used in vaping in the near future and look forward to sharing the results with you.”
It does seem to imply we shouldn't be torching/pulsing to blue - although I dunno, is the blue still shiny? But I guess by shiny he means silvery, the starting state.
I will try pulsing less than I have been, to see if I can both make it malleable and keep it shiny. I went to blue only because that's what Tony did, and because it looked good - I never tested how easy it was to coil before it turned blue.
This may become irrelevant if Stealth Vape or Crazy offer pre-annealed, malleable wire that is also still 'shiny'.
I will try pulsing less than I have been, to see if I can both make it malleable and keep it shiny. I went to blue only because that's what Tony did, and because it looked good - I never tested how easy it was to coil before it turned blue.
This may become irrelevant if Stealth Vape or Crazy offer pre-annealed, malleable wire that is also still 'shiny'.
FWIW I commented on Phil's post directing people to this thread, and to my Beyond Ni200 thread.
I have had extensive communication with Pedro as a result of Dr. F's pronouncements on dry burning in general and I can assure you that Pedro does not believe that blue titanium is dangerous. When he says shiny he means all the transparent interference colors are in his supposed safe zone. I believe that white flaky oxide is beyond what he recommends.
This is not different than what we have discussed before.
Duane
Remember that English is not Pedro's first language and although he communicates wonderfully in English there may be some subtleties of use that are not easy for him. I think he's trying to be helpful and not to confuse folks.
Duane
Duane
Ahh so it is the same Pedro, great, I wondered about that.
And yeah that makes sense, great!
And yeah that makes sense, great!
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