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Capt Steve knows something we don't. More clues to come in due time I think.
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No buddy, I don't I'm just stating the obvious solution to the wire dilemma. Sadly battery technology has still some way to go till we see this materialize.
In the meantime vape it like you stole it
In the meantime vape it like you stole it
torching wires is exactly the same as dry burn guys. The wire must NOT get hot. Only up to the temperature of the vaping while wick is wet
So you suggest throwing away coils that have buildup? If this is not what your suggesting then how should one go about cleaning a coil that has vaped 20ml of a nice dirty NET?
Not to worry, I'm not going to be arc welding Kanthal anytime soon.
Good luck.
Not to be pedantic but if you're using no-res wire and a zapper to join the wires then you are arc welding them
Painfull answer is: clean your coil with a toothbrush, some soap and hot water For sure not as convenient as dry burning the coil, but that's the price tag for additional safety.
I do it this way, it's not that time consuming ...
For sure not as convenient as dry burning the coil, but that's the price tag for additional safety.I do it this way, it's not that time consuming ...
I am amazed. For such a long time, it has been professed all over the vaping industry that Kanthal wire, A1 especially, was the way to go. Now not only is it not the way to go but DANGEROUS! This statement is being made by Imeo and is a careless statement to make aw without backed up proof and evidence. There has to be more than "trust me". There are MSDS that state neither as being particularly "safe" in that regard. And maybe they are both equal. But what constitutes "safe". If you read all the posts in this thread, it seems you may as well just pick up smoking again and titanium wire is the salvation of the world.
In a day where the various governments around the world are looking for ANY ammunition to throw back as an excuse to regulate and even ban ecig use, this is a careless statement to make without links and supporting evidence. Our government leaders will happily find this thread on Imeo's forum as a broadcast message to just how dangerous vaping can be. Bam vaping, because imeo said it's dangerous.
There is talk of K and Ni being dangerous and Titanium wire being the salvation. Dry burn, don't dry burn. A time not long ago, cotton was a HUGE no no. Taboo because we didn't know what was IN organic cotton. Now Imeo has made rebuildable parts for the very use of cotton. The use of R only wire was never to be heard of, but Imeo listened. Sometimes later is in fact better than never.
This is a careless move that will only move to fuel the fire with wrong information on the wrong hands. There is no proof offered. There are untested and uneducated guesses. "This wire is a better grade". But what grade exactly is that? "Oh we will keep this silent for now if you agree so ...." So what? So MONEY can be made.
The premade wires were difficult to find in stock. They were 1 each and supply was short. So people found other sources. They weren't of the same quality, of course, as others would say. Or were they? Then the price was lowered, and it was discovered and ADMITTINGLY brought in from China. But the evolution of zappers came to be and with that, people saying "if he can't supply the premade, I'll make my own".
There are a lot of "vague facts and innuendos" here. And this is a bold move in part made by the need of money. If you can't zap titanium wire, you'll buy from Imeo.
This is fine. Maybe titanium is the greatest thing since sliced bread. I'm just amazed on how little is known about it, but it's being brought down from the mountains as "safe".
Do your OWN homework and let the testing sort itself out. Don't just take one modders word, ANY modders, on safe or not when it comes to your health. K was ok for us since the beginning. A safe replacement shall not be announced in one day. And certainly not by just one person's word and "findings".
In a day where the various governments around the world are looking for ANY ammunition to throw back as an excuse to regulate and even ban ecig use, this is a careless statement to make without links and supporting evidence. Our government leaders will happily find this thread on Imeo's forum as a broadcast message to just how dangerous vaping can be. Bam vaping, because imeo said it's dangerous.
There is talk of K and Ni being dangerous and Titanium wire being the salvation. Dry burn, don't dry burn. A time not long ago, cotton was a HUGE no no. Taboo because we didn't know what was IN organic cotton. Now Imeo has made rebuildable parts for the very use of cotton. The use of R only wire was never to be heard of, but Imeo listened. Sometimes later is in fact better than never.
This is a careless move that will only move to fuel the fire with wrong information on the wrong hands. There is no proof offered. There are untested and uneducated guesses. "This wire is a better grade". But what grade exactly is that? "Oh we will keep this silent for now if you agree so ...." So what? So MONEY can be made.
The premade wires were difficult to find in stock. They were 1 each and supply was short. So people found other sources. They weren't of the same quality, of course, as others would say. Or were they? Then the price was lowered, and it was discovered and ADMITTINGLY brought in from China. But the evolution of zappers came to be and with that, people saying "if he can't supply the premade, I'll make my own".
There are a lot of "vague facts and innuendos" here. And this is a bold move in part made by the need of money. If you can't zap titanium wire, you'll buy from Imeo.
This is fine. Maybe titanium is the greatest thing since sliced bread. I'm just amazed on how little is known about it, but it's being brought down from the mountains as "safe".
Do your OWN homework and let the testing sort itself out. Don't just take one modders word, ANY modders, on safe or not when it comes to your health. K was ok for us since the beginning. A safe replacement shall not be announced in one day. And certainly not by just one person's word and "findings".
Yankee, nice statement and it seems that its exactly what I say all the time to all people: "Do your homework and dont buy everything from everyone".
So if you didnt find the facts on this thread more than enough, please do your research (as you suggested to other people) and come back with your results. We are here to listen.
So if you didnt find the facts on this thread more than enough, please do your research (as you suggested to other people) and come back with your results. We are here to listen.
You're a smart man Imeo. You already know the varying grades of all wires used in the vaping industry. You and everyone all know that Kanthal has been used for quite some time but everyone agrees that certain grades were bad. But you're keeping this "secret grade" close to your vest for a reason. So turning the tables onto me is of little use as evidence.
Comparing apples to apples is a little difficult to do. Especially since you won't provide the facts you allegedly used to determine your findings.
Would you consume a food item you don't know the ingredients of? Who would you hold responsible if something went wrong? Yourself for promotion without public revealing, or me for being the one that used since you said it's safe. You're expecting the vaping industry to just accept it as gospel, one man's word.
So yes. I did state do your homework. The really ironic message is those that wish to try will likely be in an endless loop of confusing information some to the varying grades out there. But perhaps that's the goal here.
Vaping juice from brass is no good. You were adamant about it. You changed your mind on that. And that tells me a lot.
Comparing apples to apples is a little difficult to do. Especially since you won't provide the facts you allegedly used to determine your findings.
Would you consume a food item you don't know the ingredients of? Who would you hold responsible if something went wrong? Yourself for promotion without public revealing, or me for being the one that used since you said it's safe. You're expecting the vaping industry to just accept it as gospel, one man's word.
So yes. I did state do your homework. The really ironic message is those that wish to try will likely be in an endless loop of confusing information some to the varying grades out there. But perhaps that's the goal here.
Vaping juice from brass is no good. You were adamant about it. You changed your mind on that. And that tells me a lot.
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I've stated my concerns. I won't trample any further on the obvious here.
One should know what they are taking in. That's all.
One should know what they are taking in. That's all.
yankee, your info about brass is wrong. And both of your posts are all wrong of course.
I know that you came here to make trouble but I tried to avoid it as you saw. But you dont want to stop. So I have to ask you for one more time to leave GG forum. I hope that you will do that permanently this time
I know that you came here to make trouble but I tried to avoid it as you saw. But you dont want to stop. So I have to ask you for one more time to leave GG forum. I hope that you will do that permanently this time
Wow! This just doesn't give the appearance of good faith business when handled in this manner.
Might I suggest that you find someone that can explain this to us clearly and precisely with references to back up claims rather than remove people that question blank statements or telling us to do our own research?
Might I suggest that you find someone that can explain this to us clearly and precisely with references to back up claims rather than remove people that question blank statements or telling us to do our own research?
At the end of the day WE, as individuals, are solely responsible for understanding what we put into our bodies. That is why we are all here on this forum- relating information. I for one don't like being told, "Don't do it, its bad" without any hard facts to back up why it's considered bad. So as Bo stated, we should reserve these types of statements unless they are backed by a clinical study. And as Bo and Imeo both stated, lets do our research and help each other by providing truths, not personal opinions. That being said, I remember watching Imeo on VapeTV with Bish talking about an atomizer that wouldn't use wire at all. If there is anyone that could create such a device, it's Imeo. I hope research and development of the device goes well for Imeo.
I truly hope you have a good day Bo, my friend. I truly hope you have a good day Imeo, my friend.
I truly hope you have a good day Bo, my friend. I truly hope you have a good day Imeo, my friend.
Hi Yankee,
i know you and Imeo had some different opinions in the past but i think that has nothing to do here in this thread if you agree.
I personaly had never any problems with you and i think you too, in my mind you are a very good and nice person.
If you read the posts you can see that I have research the whole thing with Titanium wires and Imeo help me out with his knowlwdge and infos like other people too.
I think you and some other people have α misunderstanding with Imeo because of his passion when he says his opinion he stays 100 % behind this and the style he does it sometimes drive you to position to want to argue with him
I can tell you the most times unfortunately he is right with his statements and after a while when the truth comes out i want to punch him !!!
because he was right again.If you meet him someday in person you will see he is a realy great guy
and i think you too As for the evidence of all wires i cant tell you 100 % what is going on if we dry burn or torch the wires,
but i am search now for a good laboratery to see if we can make tests about it to be sure.
I think he is right about this not to burn the wires but the best is if we have 100 % proof of it.
As for the titanium wires my only thoughts was to bring some better materials and healthier of course.
Thank you
Vassilis
the good news is that gunk should not stick to those wires, making the soap/water/toothbrush routine easier
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peace
Knowing that Imeo vape flavourless juices to avoid flavour chimicals is enough for me to be sure he's more concerned by his health than I am with mine ... therefore I can't believe that he would do something only for mercantile reasons ... His opinion about titanium is because he really believe in it. I believe the same is applicable to Vassilis.
However, as I said earlier, me and some others obviously really NEED some independant scientific studies to be convinced. Now that we finally have complete control on what we get in our body, and can decide on the level of risk we want to put ourself (with much more safer options than in analog cigs), it's important to have this kind of studies conducted. Since e-cig isn't yet regulated, we can't expect much from our governments, so I'm glad to see that the vendors like ESG get involved in a form of self-regulation.
No matter what would be the outcome of this study, having some factual data would be a huge input from you Vassilis, I really hope you can make it !!
PS: now that we already purchased the wires, be cool and let us know the titanium alloy grade
I agree 100% that we really need some factual details when it comes to the safety of our coils; after all I raised questions on its safety in the first pages.
However, those of you calling for lab research for Ti, since you're sensitive all of a sudden, would you mind posting something equivalent for Kanthal and Nichrome which you've been using happily all along?
However, those of you calling for lab research for Ti, since you're sensitive all of a sudden, would you mind posting something equivalent for Kanthal and Nichrome which you've been using happily all along?
I've read all through this looking for proof, all I find are peoples opinions and very little factual evidence about titanium being better as a coil and why we should never dry burn.
I'm a big fan of mesh, so it looks like I'll have to stop using my RSM's, Sat22 etc
(Oh and I am an owner of quite a few GG products by the way..)
I'm a big fan of mesh, so it looks like I'll have to stop using my RSM's, Sat22 etc
(Oh and I am an owner of quite a few GG products by the way..)
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