Too Many Jan Join Dates Asking About Sub Ohm

[Vwls]

What scares me even more is they refuse to listen to sound advice when we try and fill in the gaps in thier knowledge and teach them the safety.

I wouldn't say that... I listened back when I was new and wanted to experience what it was like to blow big clouds. I listened, and studied, and learned. And now I try to share what I learned.

There's no real secret to it - it's no different than having kids. Kids want to do impulsive, stupid things - you have to school them or they'll never learn how to temper their impulses, delay gratification, plan ahead, etc.

Just get in there and keep posting thorough, easy to understand instructions. Post them every time anyone expresses an interest in sub ohming. Tweet them, Facebook them, and YouTube them! Don't make sub ohming a big taboo secret. Get it out there - the right way. Sure there will be a few who won't listen, but if you offer the information repeatedly, make it fun and interesting, and do it with kindness, my guess is most will catch on. No one wants to blow their hand off.

Even if you run into someone who seems to be resisting, you can at least get them to buy some Sony 30 amps by linking them to a good sale. It won't solve the whole problem, but it will help.

 

[K_Tech]

It is what it is...we're talking about the indestructible generation.

Lol, I don't think they're the first "indestructible" generation.

 

[Asbestos4004]

Lol, I don't think they're the first "indestructible" generation.

Lol...yeah, I worded that wrong. I meant they were at that indestructible age. I'm guessing 17-25. I extended mine to 35....after that, I've been virtually flawless! (except for the occasional wording issues)

 

[K_Tech]

Lol...yeah, I worded that wrong. I meant they were at that indestructible age. I'm guessing 17-25. I extended mine to 35....after that, I've been virtually flawless! (except for the occasional wording issues)

Oh yeah. I was pretty immortal into my mid-20's.

 

[Ryedan]

Oh yeah. I was pretty immortal into my mid-20's.

Weren't we all? rurwin's list of quotes below tells the tale quite well IMO. Nothing ever changes .

"What is happening to our young people? They disrespect their elders, they disobey their parents. They ignore the law. They riot in the streets inflamed with wild notions. Their morals are decaying. What is to become of them?"
― Plato

"I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond words... When I was young, we were taught to be discreet and respectful of elders, but the present youth are exceedingly [disrespectful] and impatient of restraint"
― Hesiod, 8th century BC

"The world is passing through troublous times. The young people of today think of nothing but themselves. They have no reverence for parents or old age. They are impatient of all restraint. They talk as if they knew everything, and what passes for wisdom with us is foolishness with them. As for the girls, they are forward, immodest and unladylike in speech, behavior and dress."
― Peter the Hermit A.D. 1274

[My thanks to pinkfreud-ga for compiling that list]

"plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose"
― Jean-Baptiste Alphonse Karr A.D. 1849

“You cannot teach a man anything, you can only help him find it within himself.”
― Galileo Galilei

“Bodily exercise, when compulsory, does no harm to the body; but knowledge which is acquired under compulsion obtains no hold on the mind.”
― Plato

“Rules, whether they govern sexual morality or financial probity, regardless of whether they are justifiable or undesirable, always provoke bold recalcitrants to devise clever, defiant ways to breach them.”
― Richard Davenport-Hines

 

[K_Tech]

Weren't we all? rurwin's list of quotes below tells the tale quite well IMO. Nothing ever changes .

I just wish I could tell the younger me to take better care of the body that is trying to carry me into my "golden years". Ugh. Getting out of bed isn't supposed to hurt!

 

[rurwin]

Immortal -- Val Davis

...but

Blacksmith's Fire -- Val Davis

 

[Myk]

I have to second that. I sub-ohm pretty regularly (mostly because I like to tinker with different wire gauges and wick configurations) but overall, for flavor and warmth, my preference is a good dual micro coil.

That's just me, tho.

I haven't hit on a dual that I prefer.
I have gone to everything being either micro ribbon or micro-like ribbon gennies.
Between my RDAs a 1.3Ω dual and a 1.5Ω single, both the same micro ribbon even with both on VV I prefer the single. It could be wicking though, I'll have to tinker with that today. I definitely need to get a bigger assortment of wire and a VTR.

 

[leelee.d]

I'm new and and I'm just pleased as punch to be getting a Triton! No complicated for me.....EVER! LOL

 

[K_Tech]

I haven't hit on a dual that I prefer.
I have gone to everything being either micro ribbon or micro-like ribbon gennies.
Between my RDAs a 1.3Ω dual and a 1.5Ω single, both the same micro ribbon even with both on VV I prefer the single. It could be wicking though, I'll have to tinker with that today. I definitely need to get a bigger assortment of wire and a VTR.

And that, to me, is one of the great things about vaping today. There are just SO many options, and people coming out with different ways of coiling and wicking, new products, new techniques! I am LOVING this!

 

[Peepaw]

Lol, I don't think they're the first "indestructible" generation.

Maybe not but when I was a kid we didn't put firecrackers between our lips and set them off.
Saw that one on youtube the other day.

 

[CrackerTeg]

Maybe not but when I was a kid we didn't put firecrackers between our lips and set them off.
Saw that one on youtube the other day.

There's a lot of that with the new gen unfortunately. Where's natural selection when you need it?

 

[Stosh]

Maybe not but when I was a kid we didn't put firecrackers between our lips and set them off.
Saw that one on youtube the other day.

There's a lot of that with the new gen unfortunately. Where's natural selection when you need it?

big difference today is they can record it, without a 8mm film camera....and publicize it instantly...

 

[Peepaw]

Back on topic.

I'm a noob here myself and I have noticed the same thing as the OP.
There's a thread in the newcomers section called how us your setups or something like that.
I clicked on it expecting to see pretty much low level entry type stuff. Nothing like that at all.
Not wanting to ruffle any feathers but that thread is full of ECF veterans showing off their mods, provaris, rda's and on and on.
Barely anything a newcomer would or should be using.

Then there's the thread also in the newbie section where someone is building a coil on a rda.
He has it on one of those little ohm checkers and it reads 0.00. He and about the first five posters had no clue what that meant.
He had no business doing what he was trying but we can't stop that. Really if you don't know that 0.00 is a direct short, then step back and go do some research.

They don't have a problem watching videos on youtube about building sub ohm coils but they are too lazy to search up a video on the proper use of a vom.

I just have a problem that those subjects are allowed in the newbie section.

 

[CrackerTeg]

big difference today is they can record it, without a 8mm film camera....and publicize it instantly...

So true. Just the fact that its instantly publicized for the world to collectively facepalm just gives an example of what this world has to look forward to.

 

[Ay Dee Jay]

I think it's interesting to watch and I'd like to try it only to know what it does to the juice to heat it up so hot and so rapidly. But it's definitely "Tim the Tool Man Taylor" over-engineering with lots of male bravado to go around. Not a great sustainable way to walk around vaping all day in my opinion but I suspect many of them use these for an evening vape like I used to do with 306 LR atties.

I've vaped off and on for years and after getting a ProTank 2 Mini I'm more than happy with its ability to deliver tasty clouds and one after another without getting too hot or tasting bad at all. Can't imagine taking much more in, as my first few sessions with that thing had me hacking out a lung the next day, and with an all PG juice.

 

[Ay Dee Jay]

I just wish I could tell the younger me to take better care of the body that is trying to carry me into my "golden years". Ugh. Getting out of bed isn't supposed to hurt!

I was about to reply to your previous comment with this, essentially. Man this weekend I was just randomly crying out "ouch!" as my knees and ankles began to complain about incoming weather. Never had that happen before, but after a few bike spills and sprained ankles from jumping fences and being stupid, it's crazy to be 33 and suddenly feeling all of these aches and pains.

I've heard that if you stop taking vitamin C long enough, old incisions that have long healed will begin to open and weep. We are only as good as our last meal and we don't get any younger!

 

[JohnnyDill]

I saw a youtube vid today of a guy vaping a 0.1 ohm build...... I put the numbers into an ohm calculator and this is just plain stupid.

 

[StarsAndBars]

Back on topic.

I'm a noob here myself and I have noticed the same thing as the OP.
There's a thread in the newcomers section called how us your setups or something like that.
I clicked on it expecting to see pretty much low level entry type stuff. Nothing like that at all.
Not wanting to ruffle any feathers but that thread is full of ECF veterans showing off their mods, provaris, rda's and on and on.
Barely anything a newcomer would or should be using.

Then there's the thread also in the newbie section where someone is building a coil on a rda.
He has it on one of those little ohm checkers and it reads 0.00. He and about the first five posters had no clue what that meant.
He had no business doing what he was trying but we can't stop that. Really if you don't know that 0.00 is a direct short, then step back and go do some research.

They don't have a problem watching videos on youtube about building sub ohm coils but they are too lazy to search up a video on the proper use of a vom.

I just have a problem that those subjects are allowed in the newbie section.

Dividing by zero

 

[K_Tech]

Maybe not but when I was a kid we didn't put firecrackers between our lips and set them off.
Saw that one on youtube the other day.

There's a lot of that with the new gen unfortunately. Where's natural selection when you need it?

big difference today is they can record it, without a 8mm film camera....and publicize it instantly...

What, you guys don't remember the quarter sticks we used to do stupid stuff with when we were kids?

I saw a youtube vid today of a guy vaping a 0.1 ohm build...... I put the numbers into an ohm calculator and this is just plain stupid.

I don't have enough facepalms for that. There is a theoretical way to do that almost safely, but I wouldn't risk it.