I have to say something. I see a bad moon rising for us as a community. I keep seeing more and more new comers to vaping that show up on the boards asking on how to improve their tricro coil, micro, nano, uber sub ohm build, with no idea what they are doing. They don't know the amp limit of their battery or even why that's important. They just know they saw some guy on YouTube making clouds in his garage and they want to do the same.
i used to think people were over reacting when some guy would show up asking about subohming, ad the entire thread would ALL CAPS battery safety advice. But it's getting more and more common that new vapers are jumping straight into .2 ohm builds and no idea how serious of a risk it is.
If the FDA and big brother have their sights set on the vaping community now, just wait till "young man disfigured by electronic cigarette" is on the morning news.
What can we do about this? Is there anything? I see 'sign this petition' threads day in and day out, but what can we do about this. Let's kick it around as I feel it is certainly thread worthy.
This is EXACTLY what I have said, a few times, and in a few ways on this board ... but to no avail, because the numbers just keep increasing. This new generation of vapers seem to lack self awareness, are shamelessly ignorant, and IMO are creating a very unattractive image for this community.
For all those viewing this thread, I ask you to take a trip over to you tube, and from the perspective of a non-vaper, or legislative official, spend a half an hour or so viewing, not necessarily sub ohm vids, but review/demonstration videos of "obvious" new generation vapers ... You would have to be blind not to see how UGLY, and unappealing the image of vaping is becoming.
The blank, almost trance like look in the eyes, the strange, and contorted faces that are being made while inhaling/exhaling, the hideous "mech claw", and most especially the barely intelligible commentaries that accompany them .. the majority of them don't even seem like fully developed Humans. And I don't say this to be cruel, or for shock and awe, I am simply calling it exactly as I see it ... And if this is what I see as a member of the vape community, I can only imagine how this appears to a non-vaper/anti-vaper.
Recently, I commented in another thread that watching an older woman smoking is one thing that prompted me to finally want to quit smoking ... because it looked so unattractive, and so I felt like that must be what I look like also. I can honestly say that if I was still a smoker, and anyone of these "new vapers" is what I had as an initial impression of what vaping is, I swear on my life, I am POSITIVE that I would not be vaping today.
While vaping is most certainly not, in it's essence, at all about a "look", no one can argue that when it comes to "perception" in the eyes of non-vapers, and legislative officials alike, the "Image" of vaping factors in heavily. This new generation of vapers is doing very little to create, and further a positive image for the vaping community, when in fact they are annihilating it.
Sub ohming IS NOT the problem, unfortunately it's appeal to the young, the ignorant, the ill nurtured, and psychologically under developed IS.
In spite of the wealth of information on safety, and how to's that ECF, and the like provide, you cannot teach Living Intelligence. For all of the sound information, and instruction that is available to all "would be" vapers, they all have the ability to pick and chose what information they pay attention to, and absorb .... and right now, big shiny, massive cloud producing things ARE WINNING, while knowledge, intelligence, sound judgement, and responsibility is losing... and I am not sure how much we (members) can do about that.
But there is something that the administrators every vape related website can do ... How about restricting all information, posts, and discussions related to "advanced vaping" in the New Members forum? No posts allowed pertaining to rebuilding, mechanical mods, and sub ohming. Only information related to beginner level, plug n play electronic cigarettes allowed. Furthermore, how about restricting new members access to the parts of this forum related to advanced vaping techniques, and equipment/gear?
And if, and when a new member wants to move into more advanced techniques in vaping, their next level of access is to a "how to section" of the forum, where they observe, and learn about advanced techniques before doing. And when a new/intermediate member wants to gain access to advanced related topics and discussions, they have to pass a basic aptitude test in order to do so .
How about we stop awarding "veteran status" to those who have simply been a member here for a year, and award it instead to those who have actually earned that status based on knowledge, understanding, and a demonstrative contribution to this community? ... How about no longer advancing a member from full member status to ultra member status based on post count alone? Just because someone posts a lot, does not mean they know a lot ... What is "ultra" about having 4,000 posts within a few months time?? The only thing that tells me is that the member has a lot time on their hands, which was not necessarily well spent ... just sayin.
This suggestion is more about "responsibility", than it is control. Being responsible for not only "what" information is being put out there, but also for "how" that is being done. Being able to identify who is who on this board, based on demonstrated knowledge, and understanding. One thing I have learned in my lifetime is that regardless of the ideal of "freedom", everyone is not genuinely capable of the level of responsibility, and self management that true Freedom requires... and not every "credentialed" individual is actually worthy of the credentials their name and image bears ... George W. Bush Jr anyone?
My essential point is, we as members of this vaping community can either keep talking about, and rehashing our concerns regarding new vapers, the dangers of their ignorance, and the poor image, and shadow it is casting over this community, or we can decide to do something about it. And if WE are not going to really do something to stop it, change it, fix it ... then we need to just stop talking about it.