TV Bashing Thread!

[skydragon]

If intelligence means I'm a jerk, I'll wear that jacket proudly.

I don't think they make jackets that small Geoff. Not even in doll sizes.

 

[Ru42]

and occasionally there will be EXACTLY what we're looking for, that one, maybe two gems of constructive criticism that might surface and help reveal a problem area very well worth review.

I think I have said all that needs to be said from my side. I quoted Geoff above because that was the purpose of my posts. It was advice from one business professional to another. Geoff may do with it as he pleases; you do not need to fight for or against his side.

 

[Poeia]

You aren't the only one with this problem, I had Geoff's blend that I was vaping and the same thing happened, plus some other little nasty side effects (couldn't breathe etc), I was very disappointed as I loved the flavor! My problems are I react to certain things in juices, Ethyl Alcohol being one, the sweetener Ethyl Maltol being another, and Rum flavoring real or artificial. My only complaint was that I never got my answer back about the ingredients that were used, so until I do I am not ordering anything else. Other then that one incident every other communication has been nothing but outstanding as far as I am concerned.

Geoff, I understand that you don't want to publish all the ingredients as people would then be able to copy your recipes. I initially thought you could have a place where people indicate their allergies and, if they order something they're allergic to, alert them to change their order. Then I realized that gives you too much liability if you accidentally let something slip through.

But you might be able to add an allergy warning to the premium flavors like they do on foods.

Warning: This flavor contains alcohol, alcohol flavoring, maltol, dairy, nuts...

That wouldn't give anyone enough information to copy the recipe but it would alert customers with the most likely reactions what they should avoid. (They'd have to be on their own for the CYI. You can't fit all that info in the drop-down windows.)

 

[Xanax]

Now I´m very confused. I have been vaping for 6 months. I started out with awesome vapor which was very good. I saw a weekly offering at vaporbomb for blueberry and bought a bunch of bottles at 10 bucks a pop. That vaporbomb blueberry is the best stuff I have ever vaped at 20% VG. Amazing. Then when i reordered different flavors, the liquid had apparently been changed to a pharmacy grade VG and seemed to run a bit more out of the atomizer creating a bit of a mess. I am now about to order some more liquid and have been researching and the TV concept of buying a high level of PC by the ounce and mixing with doublers seemed to make alot of financial sense. Lot´s of liquid for a great price. So now where do I buy my juice? I would give my left nut for more of that thick and vapory Vaporbomb blueberry juice. I´m worried I will get more runny juice if I do though. If I buy TV, will I get chest pains? Will I get a bunch of runny juice too? Help!!! I need to restock soon!

NO, you won't. And by the way... VG is MUCH thicker than PG so your post makes no sense.

 

[Xanax]

It seems to me that when a person participates in a co-op like such as this where juice is purchased in bulk and then portioned out by non TV employee into secondary containers (hopefully new) that there is quite a bit of room for error, contamination, etc and that by participation they accept that risk. I do not see how it is any different than purchasing from the classifieds. The fact is when we make purchases like these we don

 

[JustMeAgain]

by that logic I can sell some TV juice in the classifieds and take a piss in it and the buyer can blame Geoff and TV at fault for garbage juice

Please tell me your intelligence wouldn't really make such a stupid leap of logic and that you are just posting this to be some sort of troll.

Ru42, I don't find FreeFlow's comment to be a 'stupid leap of logic' at all. It was precisely what I was thinking (except I was thinking more along the lines of spit ) and I am both intelligent and not a troll.

I do, however, find a comment that from a guy named FreeFlow, hilarious.

If you go out to a restaurant for lunch and if you don't care for your meal, do you pay for it and learn from the experience or do you demand a free lunch?

If you don't feel well that evening do you go to the restaurant's website and post about your experience? Or do you just realize that something 'didn't agree with you' and get on with your life?

I tried liquid from many, many vendors before I found what i like, and I never thought anything other than 'I guess that's not the one for me'.

 

[Agrion]

NO, you won't. And by the way... VG is MUCH thicker than PG so your post makes no sense.

To be fair, and without mentioning the other vendor again, there is a vendor that claims they are using a less viscous, yet not watered down, VG. I have read positive and negative reviews that it doesn't clog attys and cartos as easily and that it runs too much.

Now back to the bashing

 

[Agrion]

I used several vendors for liquid: CigNot, InnoVapor, Totally Wicked, Jane's Kick, Pure Smoker, CigTechs, and Tasty Vapor. Unfortunately, I used Tasty Vapor for one week and started getting terrible chest pains (felt like it was in the lungs) and they took 4 days to go away. Whatever it was, I couldn't use any other liquid during that time either. I had to go back to analogs while the pain subsided. I've been easing my way back onto vaping but I find it interesting that the pains came on after 6 months of strictly vaping and only came on once I tried Tasty Vapor. I even ordered a second time to get different flavors just in case it was a flavoring thing, but that wasn't the case. It could simply have been a coincidence or I'm allergic to an ingredient Tasty Vapor uses that the other vendors previously mentioned don't use. Not sure...

I'm no vaping expert and not a doctor but here's my take (Geoff can chime in if I'm wrong)...

I'm not 100% sure but I believe the vendors you mentioned (with the exception of TV) all have pre-mixed liquids. This is different from mixed to order liquids (from any vendor that mixes to order, not just TV) because in mixed to order liquids the high concentrate nic has just been freshly added and has not had much time to blend or deteriorate.

In my experience I can vape a 24mg liquid that's a couple of weeks+ old with no side effects but even a 12mg liquid (freshly mixed to order) can give me a buzz.

This is yet another reason why I don't bother to vape my liquids until they are at least a week old and usually 2. If you're going to vape freshly mixed liquids right out of the box I would at least shake the hell out of them.

 

[WhatAClumsyGirl]

I don't think they make jackets that small Geoff. Not even in doll sizes.

Good Lord....this was completely unnecessary.

 

[Warped3k]

You see, at least with this thread, you're not spewing all of this off-topic crap on the OTHER threads, and maybe, just MAYBE the other threads stand a chance to remain relevant while you empty your garbage here and in the process, we actually hear something that NEEDS to be heard, dealt with and we don't have to scour 1,001 threads to get to it.

I want to remind you all of the purpose of this thread. Geoff created this thread so he could receive constructive feedback. Please stay on topic and keep it civil.

 

[BiancaMontgomery]

First of all.. They send you a confirmation e-mail with a tracking number which you can write down or just not delete the e-mail.

Second of all, it's good to know that you had ordered from TV around the exact same time you claimed need to my 100+ ML of TV juice I was giving away. I hope you enjoy all that.

wow, that's pretty low down. Someone who really needed that TV juice should have gotten it, not someone who could afford to order it. Sad.

 

[skydragon]

Good Lord....this was completely unnecessary.

Good Lord............this thread was completely unnecessary. Just more attention whoring.

 

[stover.p]

Good Lord............this thread was completely unnecessary. Just more attention whoring.

Heard this the other day...........and I think it fits in this thread somewhere. "Just because you have the right to do something doesn't mean it's right to do" Take it as you may.

 

[skydragon]

Heard this the other day...........and I think it fits in this thread somewhere. "Just because you have the right to do something doesn't mean it's right to do" Take it as you may.

So that would apply to the way Geoff treats his customers? I'm not sure if I should say customers or ex-customers. I could just use the generic term of people but I have no idea if he is as nasty face to face as he is in his forum.

 

[Xanax]

How is he "nasty"? Seriously? I've never seen him name call or bash customers. I can see how some would think his choice of words seem abrupt/impolite but calling him NASTY? That's going overboard. I'd like to see proof of him being nasty like you claim. I doubt there is any proof. I've been personally PUT DOWN by a certain registered supplier that is very popular on here, and I'm not the only one to be insulted and attacked by them either. I hardly think Geoff qualifies as "nasty". It seems that he's not the only one with an occasional poor choice of words around here.

 

[Mr. Tasty Vapor]

Well, I see for the most part the entire point of this thread has been largely missed and others are turning this into their personal trolling thread. There are more serious matters at hand right now that need positive solutions so the lot of you can continue buying vaping products. I'll have to divert my attention there.

Thread is closed.