Utter & complete CONFUSION.

[keyzygirl]

I have no problem with options. Yes, I think that the $30 Riva kit is one of the best first steps into vaping in general...does everything fairly well at a great price. My objection is the people who just want to rag on the eGo because it isn't a $100 mod.

Then I agree,newer vapers need to start out with an affordable unit that fits their needs.I cant see buying a mod unless you know you need one.I have a friend that lined up my PVs,tried each and ordered a 5v GLV2.He knew thats what it would take to get him off smokes.Thats not a typical move.Most choose the 808 or Ego to start with.

 

[The Big Chief]

Is there something wrong with the eGo that I'm just not reading in the forums here. I got mine 4 days ago (my first PV) and I love it - especially with the T atomizer using the tanks.

So far, all I've heard from the members saying not to get the eGo is just that 'don't get the eGo' - why?

I want to try other vaping devices too but I'm 100 satisfied with my eGo.

I like my ego as most ppl, as well as the 510 and 808. But everytime someone new asks a model to buy, all of a sudden semi-new ppl take THEIR experience and put that new poster into hyperdrive through the models straight to the ego. Most ppl would NOT buy an ego as a first e cig. "helping" someone considering e cigs to go straight to big batts just doesnt help. When the OP says specifically they dont want a huge bat, its common sense. If I come on here asking about a provari, I dont want 2 words about a darwin.
If I'm going to answer their question, I answer THEIR question, not mine. Vets understand this difference and gives only pertinent info that is needed or requested, not OUR autobiography. New ppl can learn as they go just as we did. But without the journey, its gets confusing and complicated, not fun and exciting. Let ppl choose their own pace, as I chose mine. Were not doing anyone a dis-service in any way by allowing ppl to start slow, and giving a simple answer to a simple question.

 

[mlinky]

Then I agree,newer vapers need to start out with an affordable unit that fits their needs.I cant see buying a mod unless you know you need one.I have a friend that lined up my PVs,tried each and ordered a 5v GLV2.He knew thats what it would take to get him off smokes.Thats not a typical move.Most choose the 808 or Ego to start with.

Totally with you. Based on what I see on the sites, I think the best current starting point is the KR8 or the eGo. Personally, I don't talk about the KR8 because I have no experience with it. What is really important to me is that people get something that gives enough to let them know that vaping will work for them, without frustrating them, and at a price that doesn't turn them off alltogether.

I have a REO now. I LOVE it, but I wouldn't have had any idea about different attys, different batts, etc when I first started. The eGo taught me "how" to vape, and what I really wanted (I'm a convenience gal). It would have been really dumb to have dropped that kind of money on a mod before I even knew my juice preferences.

 

[mlinky]

I like my ego as most ppl, as well as the 510 and 808. But everytime someone new asks a model to buy, all of a sudden semi-new ppl take THEIR experience and put that new poster into hyperdrive through the models straight to the ego. Most ppl would NOT buy an ego as a first e cig. "helping" someone considering e cigs to go straight to big batts just doesnt help. When the OP says specifically they dont want a huge bat, its common sense. If I come on here asking about a provari, I dont want 2 words about a darwin.
If I'm going to answer their question, I answer THEIR question, not mine. Vets understand this difference and gives only pertinent info that is needed or requested, not OUR autobiography. New ppl can learn as they go just as we did. But without the journey, its gets confusing and complicated, not fun and exciting. Let ppl choose their own pace, as I chose mine. Were not doing anyone a dis-service in any way by allowing ppl to start slow, and giving a simple answer to a simple question.

I disagree that your answer was objectively answering THEIR question. Yes, they said analog sized, but they also said more than 4-5 hours battery life.

After hearing the great explanation offered by another poster, they decided that battery life was more important to them than size.

 

[Rosa]

What I always recommend for a new vaper is a Riva kit, has great battery life. A low res 306 atomizer, you get great throat hit and flavor. A 306 drip tip for dripping, dripping the liquid directly on the atomizer is the easiest way to vape. Avoids having to fill carts and cartomizers .

By that criteria, why wouldn't you recommend an eGo-T tank? It's easy enough for the new user yet provides the convenience of a cartomizer and the flavor of dripping. Is it because you can't use the LR atty? I'm not a huge fan of the LR atty, so that may not be an issue for them.

I like my ego as most ppl, as well as the 510 and 808. But everytime someone new asks a model to buy, all of a sudden semi-new ppl take THEIR experience and put that new poster into hyperdrive through the models straight to the ego. Most ppl would NOT buy an ego as a first e cig. "helping" someone considering e cigs to go straight to big batts just doesnt help. When the OP says specifically they dont want a huge bat, its common sense. If I come on here asking about a provari, I dont want 2 words about a darwin.
If I'm going to answer their question, I answer THEIR question, not mine. Vets understand this difference and gives only pertinent info that is needed or requested, not OUR autobiography. New ppl can learn as they go just as we did. But without the journey, its gets confusing and complicated, not fun and exciting. Let ppl choose their own pace, as I chose mine. Were not doing anyone a dis-service in any way by allowing ppl to start slow, and giving a simple answer to a simple question.

Except that I started out with a 510 on the advice of forum members and within 3 days I had an eGo coming to me in the mail. Sure, I got 2 spare atty's out of my original 510 starter kit but other than that it was a total waste of $40. I just can't afford to start from the bottom and learn as I go... I would have much preferred if someone had said, "look, the eGo battery is bigger and fatter than a cigarette but you'll want the better battery life, trust me." Why not start a new member with an e-cig that they can use right away without going through the frustrations that we all went through. IMO, the eGo IS the new 510.

 

[dormouse]

KR8 standard batteries (280mah) often last me 4-5 hours but it all depends on how you vape and how often. It would be a bit dicey to actually depend on one to last 4-5 hours. But if you are not a heavy vaper, and charge two batteries up overnight and bring both with you, then should be covered. If you have another charging at home then you should be fine. That's what I do. There is also a PCC for charging on the go.

It is about 1mm thicker than a cigarette and about 120mm long.

 

[Rosa]

KR8 standard batteries (280mah) often last me 4-5 hours but it all depends on how you vape and how often. It would be a bit dicey to actually depend on one to last 4-5 hours. But if you are not a heavy vaper, and charge two batteries up overnight and bring both with you, then should be covered. If you have another charging at home then you should be fine. That's what I do. There is also a PCC for charging on the go.

It is about 1mm thicker than a cigarette and about 120mm long.

I usually recommend eGo over Kr808d1 UNLESS they specifically say it has to be extremely easy or they're likely to not use it. Mostly, because the starter eGo kit can be had for $40...


I remember when I started I barely wanted to spend $20 for the xhale 02 at 7-11 because I really didn't believe it would work for me... seemed like people were always quitting cigs using methods that I'd tried and failed at, why would e-cigs be any different? Most of the time, when I see kr808's they are more expensive than 510's or eGo's -- that was a deterrent to me.

Of course, now that I know it works money is no object HAHAHAHA --- no, it's still an object. LOL!

 

[sirbrit]

As the OP, I feel that my questions were honestly answered by all who replied.
It was clear that there are many many options, but the acronyms and language used in this forum are foreign to me as a newbie.

I didn't wish to spend any amount of money lol, but I also would rather spend an extra 50 or 60 bucks on the front end with something that is 1. reliable and 2. does the job.
As I said earlier, when I get into something new where I have little to no knowledge, I go to forums on the subject and usually find a general consensus on the subject. That was very difficult as there were so many different Items to choose from.

Understanding that ppl are different, I knew there still had to be something that fulfilled the criteria I expressed. After reading the responses given it was clear that the ppl that knew much better I, advised me to throw some of those things out of the window, (size and battery life for example) I was ok with that because they know better than I do and that was the kind of advice I was searching for.

I think the bottom line is this. I feel a lot better about the choice I made thanks to the info provided. thanks again for all the help

I think my goal was reached

 

[Sathane]

I like my ego as most ppl, as well as the 510 and 808. But everytime someone new asks a model to buy, all of a sudden semi-new ppl take THEIR experience and put that new poster into hyperdrive through the models straight to the ego. Most ppl would NOT buy an ego as a first e cig. "helping" someone considering e cigs to go straight to big batts just doesnt help. When the OP says specifically they dont want a huge bat, its common sense. If I come on here asking about a provari, I dont want 2 words about a darwin.
If I'm going to answer their question, I answer THEIR question, not mine. Vets understand this difference and gives only pertinent info that is needed or requested, not OUR autobiography. New ppl can learn as they go just as we did. But without the journey, its gets confusing and complicated, not fun and exciting. Let ppl choose their own pace, as I chose mine. Were not doing anyone a dis-service in any way by allowing ppl to start slow, and giving a simple answer to a simple question.

Ah, I see now. I understand that and it makes perfect sense. Thanks for that, and I agree completely.

Unfortunately, you can't just silence newbies when they are excitedly talking about their new toys so it's up to the person looking for recommendations to recognize the fact that the veteran members have more experience with more devices and their posts should carry much more weight in their decision.

 

[BiffRocko]

If an analog like draw is what your after, the closest I've come to finding it is Cisco LR 306 atomizers. 306 attys have the same threads as 510 attys and will fit on any device that accepts a 510 atty/carto. (eg. the eGo/Riva)

However, I strongly recommend you do not try these until you have a bit of experience with vaping. They are an advanced user device. They must be prepped properly, kept very wet, and they can only be dripped. As a new vaper, you will not yet have the experience necessary to properly care for them. I'm mentioning them now for two reasons. First, it may sway you towards getting a 510 compatible device instead of an 808 compatible (though you can always get an 808 to 510 adapter). Second, so you're aware of their existence and keep them in mind a month from now when you've got grip on vaping in general and are looking to try something new.

 

[Sathane]

KR8 standard batteries (280mah) often last me 4-5 hours but it all depends on how you vape and how often. It would be a bit dicey to actually depend on one to last 4-5 hours. But if you are not a heavy vaper, and charge two batteries up overnight and bring both with you, then should be covered. If you have another charging at home then you should be fine. That's what I do. There is also a PCC for charging on the go.

It is about 1mm thicker than a cigarette and about 120mm long.

Noone can reliably recommend a model that will last 4-5 hours for anyone else. What might last me 4-5 hours might not last someone else 2 hours; it might also last another person 8 hours. It all depends on how often it's used.

 

[Becki]

I have been reading most of your replies here and think of what I would have done myself in the beginning, knowing what I know now. I would have gone with the Joye EGO. Most reliable, long lasting e-cig you will find. I started with the Blu e-cig and regret it. Wasted too much time in recharging the 2 battery's. That's all I did, everyday! The EGO will last a few hours to several. Depending on your use. Try this toolbar and use it to search e-cig prices and coupon codes on whatever you choose. Also has much more info than just that. VaporBar - Everything E-Cig. One Toolbar.

 

[sirbrit]

However, I strongly recommend you do not try these until you have a bit of experience with vaping. They are an advanced user device.

Thats exactly the type of advice i need, Thanks Biff

 

[sirbrit]

thank you Becki, nice toolbar

 

[sirbrit]

Sathane, I use around 1 PAD. shorts, and not all the way so maybe i will be fortunate with battery life. i hope lol

 

[mlinky]

Sathane, I use around 1 PAD. shorts, and not all the way so maybe i will be fortunate with battery life. i hope lol

You will be fine with the battery life on the eGo. I was 1 PAD, got 6-8 hours on the standard eGo battery.

 

[smiddleton1]

Admittedly I'm new as well, but having just gone through what you are about to, here's my experience. I did drop a few hundred on testing out several models, so hopefully I can save you from that. Blu, V2, SafeCig and the KR808D-1 were what I tried.

I also wanted something similar in look and feel as an analog. Where I landed and what I now use is the KR808D-1. I was a pack / day smoker and the battery gets me through the work day and part of the evening having used it about a week now. I will admit I still have 5 or 6 analogs / day as I'm tapering off of them so I may need to swap batteries mid day at some point. Anticipating this, I ordered a personal charging case (PCC) which resembles the size and shape of a pack of cigarettes. If my battery dies, I have a back-up ready to go and don't need a wall socket or computer to charge. That solved the battery life issue which hasn't really been an issue to this point. The KR808D-1 has good, consistent vapor and really provides a throat hit similar to an analog. Only down side I can see is it is a bit noisier than the others I tried (my wife says it sounds like a .... without the bubbles).

With the others I tried here's a list of the issues: expensive, inconsistent (some draws are good others not), quality issues (mostly with the Blu), being locked into getting refills only through them (SafeCig mostly), V2 took a long time to process my order. My suggestion is grab a starter kit for the KR808D-1 and buy some pre-filled cartridges (the KR will come with empties you have to fill). I'm still mastering the art of filling my own and would not have wanted to mess with filling carts while I was finding the right device. Hope this helps!

 

[sirbrit]

Thanks smiddelton1, Makes me feel better than i did, i ordered the kr808 thru v4l, got the kit that has everything and some juice and carts, hopefull it will b here tomorrow. sort of excited bout it, hoping i can just switch over completly.

 

[keyzygirl]

What flavors and colors did you get?

 

[sirbrit]

LOL, well I'm not sure, I got a copper pcc a blue case a white battery. that was all the choices i had in colours. In flavours I picked some kind of assorted fruit sampler, a tobacco sampler and 555 nobacco juice, also got a drip tip.
still dont have a clue wot colour the the actual e cigg will be, I'm assuming white lol, I was tired and it was a bit late