My hubby will either support my vaping or come visit me during my incarceration. His choice...... View attachment 261136
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I can't even imagin any non-smoker that lives with a cigarette smoker having any objection to their vaping instead. My non-smoking wife had slight objection to the amount of money I was spending on vaping "stuff". But, it was considerably less than I was spending on my 2.5 PAD tobacco use. It's a moot point now, since my last vape was Feb 6th. When I started vaping it was my intent to quit tobacco, then quit vaping. I'm living proof one can quit smoking using ecigs. Frankly, now I wonder how she stood being around me all those years I smoked. God Bless her. JMHO
Cheers,
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Lol classic.
Finding a flavor for her wasn't to bad. The first one we got was a strawberry from two peas she didn't mind then we went to a different local shop that had a sampling booth and she got some keoke coffee from vicious. Tastes like hot dogs to me but she liked it so that's all that matters
It irks me how some people see vaping as smoking. It's all to do with a brain disorder. The same one that causes most types of religious beliefs (no offense to anyone.) Tons of truly well-conducted studies prove that most (not all) people who believe in religion have a hyper-sensitive and even sometimes severely damaged region of the brain that controls fear; fear is the #1 driver behind most religions, after all. All the religious people who get angry over truly unsensible, legal things always seem to say the words "that'll make you go to hell!" or "that's just wrong!" and usually can't explain a scientific reason why they believe that. For example, all the loving, easy-going, judge-less religious people usually don't even think about or believe in a "hell" (and at most, only think about it concerning their own afterlife), and focus on the positivity of religion only, and those are the types that just don't have this disorder; they're also also the types that probably won't give a hoot about someone vaping unless it actually begins to stink up their house; a reasonable, healthy brain will give a person a chance to speak about their version of the facts, and will do proper research if they really are innately concerned. But I'm not just talking about old grandma's here; even those trendy dimwitted college-type young adults who will critisize everything, they may not be particularly religious, but they still have that type of fear brain disorder - the disorder doesn't cause someone to latch on to religion in particular, just whatever fears they are indeed exposed to the most and take personal cue on. A teenage girl with this disorder who hates stinky clothes will fear vaping right off the bat if they have the disorder. Its a disorder that, like schizophrenia, virtually makes a person's fears real, uncontrollable, and self-justified. Again, no offense to anyone religious or also scared of some random unsensible thing or two, but the truth is, if you do take offense to this, and find yourself abandoning your children because the bible said they can't have a brown table in their house on a wensday, i would suggest medical assistance rather than ruining your own life before it's too late. doubt anyone here really is that silly though. but food for thought.
Phobias (like true irrational fear of one or two concentrated things) alternitavely are not actual brain disorders though (surprisingly enough) unless the person denies it's a phobia and tries to justify it. I personally have an irrational and truly extreme, panic attack fear of indoor heights (like looking off the rail of a three-story mall) but I don't have it whatsoever for outdoor heights (I could look off the grand canyon no problem). It's absolutely absurd yet my body can't control it, and I have no mental justification for it. There's no credit for anyone doubting vaping (or anything really, until they do hours of research) unless they actually have a confessed uncontrollable unexplainable phobia of vaping. Like if someone screamed any time they saw vapor and couldn't explain any reason why. I do that with indoor heights. If I see it, my hearts starts beating like crazy, I'll start clinging and holding onto walls, I've even broke down crying and shaking before even just at the sight of it. It's insane. They almost had to call an ambulance for me at the tour of the Biltmore Mansion. The stairwell in that place was my version of what hell in the afterlife would be lol. So yeah, next time someone critiseses a vaper, tell them you'll stop vaping when they go see a psychiatrist. The difference between a phobia and a mental disorder is that a phobia is a genetic quirk in the human brain, a piece of DNA that formed a birth-given thought (like homosexuality in most scientists' views) that caused the brain's fear instinct to react extraordinarily to some mundane thing; it's the same instinct that causes a bird to be scared of movement without real reason (like anything really could catch a bird unless it was sick) and that's actually a very ingrained part of nature. What is a brain disorder is a bird being scared of movement without reason and turning around and saying they're right or starting an argument because they managed to find some sort of piece of literature that said every bird who doesn't fly away will be viciously attacked.
But to clarify that I don't have the fear disorder, I'm actually scared of absolutely nothing in life that isn't a DNA phobia that I care less about finding a justification for. I'm an entirely fearless person when it comes to anything beyond breaking the law or obviously just doing dangerous stuff. No personal fear-based religious beliefs (no religious beliefs at all, to be frank). No looking down on people for any reason whatsoever; I don't even look down on people with the said mental disorder, everyone's unique, I just think people should keep their traps closed and live their own life and respect others. I can't name one thing in my life that I just looked at and said "Ew, that looks gross." or "That person is weird." or "Isn't that harmful? (without having a clue.)" Unless it's scientifically just unadvisable to do, injest, eat, breath in, or be around something, I just don't care. One of my good friends has about 14 STD's. Who cares.
Phobias (like true irrational fear of one or two concentrated things) alternitavely are not actual brain disorders though (surprisingly enough) unless the person denies it's a phobia and tries to justify it. I personally have an irrational and truly extreme, panic attack fear of indoor heights (like looking off the rail of a three-story mall) but I don't have it whatsoever for outdoor heights (I could look off the grand canyon no problem). It's absolutely absurd yet my body can't control it, and I have no mental justification for it. There's no credit for anyone doubting vaping (or anything really, until they do hours of research) unless they actually have a confessed uncontrollable unexplainable phobia of vaping. Like if someone screamed any time they saw vapor and couldn't explain any reason why. I do that with indoor heights. If I see it, my hearts starts beating like crazy, I'll start clinging and holding onto walls, I've even broke down crying and shaking before even just at the sight of it. It's insane. They almost had to call an ambulance for me at the tour of the Biltmore Mansion. The stairwell in that place was my version of what hell in the afterlife would be lol. So yeah, next time someone critiseses a vaper, tell them you'll stop vaping when they go see a psychiatrist. The difference between a phobia and a mental disorder is that a phobia is a genetic quirk in the human brain, a piece of DNA that formed a birth-given thought (like homosexuality in most scientists' views) that caused the brain's fear instinct to react extraordinarily to some mundane thing; it's the same instinct that causes a bird to be scared of movement without real reason (like anything really could catch a bird unless it was sick) and that's actually a very ingrained part of nature. What is a brain disorder is a bird being scared of movement without reason and turning around and saying they're right or starting an argument because they managed to find some sort of piece of literature that said every bird who doesn't fly away will be viciously attacked.
But to clarify that I don't have the fear disorder, I'm actually scared of absolutely nothing in life that isn't a DNA phobia that I care less about finding a justification for. I'm an entirely fearless person when it comes to anything beyond breaking the law or obviously just doing dangerous stuff. No personal fear-based religious beliefs (no religious beliefs at all, to be frank). No looking down on people for any reason whatsoever; I don't even look down on people with the said mental disorder, everyone's unique, I just think people should keep their traps closed and live their own life and respect others. I can't name one thing in my life that I just looked at and said "Ew, that looks gross." or "That person is weird." or "Isn't that harmful? (without having a clue.)" Unless it's scientifically just unadvisable to do, injest, eat, breath in, or be around something, I just don't care. One of my good friends has about 14 STD's. Who cares.
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I am glad you got to vent.
I agree for the most part with what you are saying.
The Giraffe.
Interesting.... we all entitled to our own opinion but I do agree I hate it when people group vaping with smoking. I was on a stop at greyhound I got out to stretch my legs I was having a vape by the building. I saw one of the emploees staring at me like I was doing something... I can't mention.. I kept on vaping. About 10 minutes. Later he came up to me all jittery and kinda like he was scared ( I'm guessing he wanted his fellow employee to deal with me and thaught I was trouble because of my flat billed hat and big snowboarding jacket, I do snowboard BTW.....) and told me no smoking by the building. As soon as I was starting to bring my pv up to say something he said even thoughs to. So not wanting to get kicked off the bus I said fine and walked away. Under any other circumstances I would a laid into him but I had some legal obligations to make this trip so getting kicked off could a landed me in prison. Or worse.... Idaho lol
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I live alone in a cave. The bats don't care.
You poor thing!
Anyway..... Mr. Robin (never smoker) had seen me try to quit, and fail, many times. He suggested an ecig for when we travel, thinking that ecigs would be allowed on planes. So I started researching. Everything lead back here to ECF. when I was discussing start up cost, he started to say I should keep track of costs to compare and see if it was worth it. As he was saying this his brain flipped and realized the health benefits. So immediately said if it does work, it would be better for my health so the cost would be a non issue.
He is so proud that I've quit smoking. He even supports my activism in CASAA. He helped me find email addresses for my World Vpaing Day idea. He's a good guy
I started vaping about 6 months ago and its been kinda rough on the relationship unfortunatly.
She pretty much hates everything about my pv (eventho she got it for me for my birthday)
But ive come to the conclusion that this is my habbit and my hobby and if she got a problem with it she can quit the cola and analog habbit and then we can talk about it... Until then she can shut the duck up and leave me vaping in peace... Then im just lucky to have a friend thats also a vape buddy i can show my coils to
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She pretty much hates everything about my pv (eventho she got it for me for my birthday)
But ive come to the conclusion that this is my habbit and my hobby and if she got a problem with it she can quit the cola and analog habbit and then we can talk about it... Until then she can shut the duck up and leave me vaping in peace... Then im just lucky to have a friend thats also a vape buddy i can show my coils to
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My wife is a wonderful person who tolerates all my quirks. I am hoping that she will switch to vaping eventually but refuse to push her into it. Not fair to her. I bought her a good starter kit and some juices and am leaving her to decide for herself. Hopefully, the longer I do it, the more 'normal' it becomes to her. I have yet to run into a person who has been negative about it. My in-laws also smoke, but they have tried my rig and like the flavors. Don't see them changing though. I treat it as a personal choice and don't try to 'ram it down anyone's throat'. Good luck and have fun!
link to your scientific studies???????
because this is some of the biggest hogwash I've ever heard. People who are religious have a brain disorder????
Puhleeze.
Wow, Adam Ant, too funny! Never thought I'd see him again. Blast from the past, thanks.
I'd also like it known that I am not all that religious (reform Jew, which means we'll accept just about anything), so my reaction isn't the knee jerk reaction of a cultist religionist or anything,,,,,but it bothers me to hear someone say anyone who is religious has a brain disorder.
My MIL is a a good Catholic. Mr. Robin may say she has a brain disorder, she sticks up for me in any discussions.
She is also thrilled that I use an ecig instead of smoking. She also thinks Amtrak is stupid for not allowing vaping on the train we are all about to take in November. Biggest pile of crap I've heard, besides the ANTZ crap, is deeply religious people have brain disorders. Seriously? The person that said that must just know some seriously whacked people....
Let's not not let one person derail the thread.
However far, far out there they may be.
The Giraffe.
However far, far out there they may be.
The Giraffe.
My partner of 15+ years (non-smoker) has been thrilled to have me vaping. I was allowed to smoke in the back office in the house, but even then smoke would leave a lingering ickiness in the air. She has been so supportive of me vaping. I've been concerned about how much I've spent so far, but she's like "don't worry, it'll even out eventually".
We also went to visit my mom not long ago, and my mom (never smoked) was so excited for me to see her screened in porch that I was just going to love for smoking that I couldn't tell her I had quit. So we show up at the house and a little while later, I start vaping. She was all -- what's that? I explained it to her and she was excited. She couldn't believe how good it smelled. She even said later, "wow, I never thought I'd see the day you quit smoking"! She told me how proud she was of me. That's the best feeling -- when you see how happy you're making all the people around you!
We also went to visit my mom not long ago, and my mom (never smoked) was so excited for me to see her screened in porch that I was just going to love for smoking that I couldn't tell her I had quit. So we show up at the house and a little while later, I start vaping. She was all -- what's that? I explained it to her and she was excited. She couldn't believe how good it smelled. She even said later, "wow, I never thought I'd see the day you quit smoking"! She told me how proud she was of me. That's the best feeling -- when you see how happy you're making all the people around you!
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