vaping has come this far

[fenderstrat]

I started vaping just about 1 year ago,around Thanksgiving 2014 and sub ohm tanks were just hitting the market(they were a fad and wouldn't last or so they were saying..lol)mods like the MVP 3 and then the PRO at 60 watts were considered "higher"wattage.So now we have 200 watt mods with tanks like the CROWN and Smok TFV4 and vaping is pretty damn good.So much so that I have seen some video reviews lately and they were complaining about how "clicky" the buttons were.... REALLY???thats the complaint ???and one was talking about fingerprints on the finish.WOW are they starting to run out of things to say??

Imagine if 2 years ago the snowwolf or a150 watt sigelei(sp)was released with a TFV tank, no one would have cared about clicky buttons.Man its a good time to be vaping compared to the things guys were using just 2-3 years ago.I just got an IPV3LI and I think its absolutely amazing.If you consider it was delivered to my door for 75 bucks how cool is that?and since I've been a member here(1 week) I have seen some coil builds there are nothing short of artistry,simply amazing builds.Sometimes you cant see the forrest through the trees.We need to step back and realize we are vaping in a really good time

 

[MMW]

Great stuff! Well said @fenderstrat!

 

[fenderstrat]

thanks sometimes you have a different perspective being new to the scene.As I was thinking about this more and the fact I got my 3Li for 75 bucks.last year a week after I got my first ego twist and it ran out of power on the way to work. so I wanted something with more battery.I paid 40 bucks for an MVP2, the 11W version not even the 20W...lol
In the guitar business not much has changed in the last few years the 2 main guitars the STRAT and Les paul have been fundamentally unchanged for years.In vaping, soon as you buy something,its still on the way to your house, and something newer and better is already released

 

[MMW]

The 3-Li is great! Love mine. Welcome to the board. This forum and the industry has changed my daily life for the better and for that I'm grateful. Good stuff.

 

[Falconeer]

I do agree with what you said about the progress and improvements that have been made over the last few years...and just hope legislation and misinformation doesn't kill this stone dead.

Three years ago in Spain when I first experimented unsuccessfully with vaping, there were vape shops on every street corner down here in Andalusia - even in our village we had one and many of the gift shops also stocked juices. While there were all these shops most however ony really sold ego pen type devices in blister packs, multi packs of clearatomisers which sprung a leak after a week's use or cig-a-like kits. The technology has come on by leaps and bounds and to my mind is the only viable solution for those of us who wanted to quit tobacco.

Now we have the better devices, sadly nearly all of the vape shops have closed - because of the amount of publicity on the supposed health dangers of vaping, fears of forthcoming EU restrictions and the tax regime which actually makes vaping equipment significantly cheaper, even, in the UK than in Spain.

 

[zapped]

Its debatable or not if what youve outlined is actually progress.

Dont knock the "old" stuff until youve tried it.

For one thing, I go through a quarter of the juice that most cloud chasers do and for another my batteries last 3 times as long.

 

[Falconeer]

zapped does have a point - I suppose it depends on your vaping style.

Me I run a 1.8ohm coil at 3.7 volts on my iStick 30ws, vape the things like I smoked my pipe and get up to 3.5 days out of my battery and get through one Nautilus Mini tank of juice a day - what I don't get are all the "dead men" I got with the cig-a- like refills nor the leaks I got from the ego clearatomisers so I'm a pretty satisfied customer and am coming up for two months smoke free which I never thought I'd achieve.

 

[MMW]

Who said anything about knocking anything or cloud chasers or burning through batteries and juice? He just seems happy about having options where he can have more choices.

 

[Hotwire]

I agree with zapped too - things are going a bit wild, I mean do people really enjoy 100W lung hits? Are they mostly just the hipster types that work in the vape stores and work for the juice / gear companies and do the youtube videos...? You only taste the vapour on the exhale with these lung hits. I don't get how you can enjoy that. And 5ml will only last you about an hour on these 'cloud chasing' get ups...

I feel the Nautilus style tanks with 1.8ohm BVC coils are perfection. They improved on EVOD type gear and other tanks below their price range but don't burn juice or battery life as mad as all the sub ohm and RDA gear.

With the Nautilus mini and PV's like the I-stick or coolfire 4 - I feel vaping has achieved a great deal. I have subtank nanos but tbh lung hits give me bad wind and indigestion and I get no flavour at all on the inhale as there is too much vapour to process, all the flavour is on the exhale.

With the nautilus mini it's built like a tank and you can even vape 50/50 in it no problems. You can get a really large amount of vapour compared to EVODS or other pen style tanks / clearos and you can really enjoy the flavour of the vapour on the inhale and exhale.

You can use cheap 80PG juices on it which you can't in a sub ohm set up and it can also handle premium 50/50 also (some people claim up to 70/30 or MAX VG but I doubt it...) so no limitations.

Really perfect little tank, pair it with even as low as a 20W capable device and you have a really good set up that can handle decent juice, doesn't leak, provides good vapour, is portable, gives good battery and coil life and juice mileage as only need around 15W - I wish I had 2 of them instead of having bought a sub ohm tank TBH...

 

[AndriaD]

Its debatable or not if what youve outlined is actually progress.

Dont knock the "old" stuff until youve tried it.

For one thing, I go through a quarter of the juice that most cloud chasers do and for another my batteries last 3 times as long.

I think the point that most seem to miss is that just because your mod can go up to some outrageous wattage, doesn't mean you SHOULD run it that high. I still vape at 8.5-9 watts, and my 2000mAh 40w Coolfire IV lasts an entire 14-16 hr day -- beats the heck out of the 11w vv3 I used to use, which was 800mAh and really was only a feasible option when using it in "pass-thru" mode, or by taking all 3 of my vv3s with me when I went someplace. And yep, using my 40w mod at 8.5-9 watts doesn't just conserve the battery -- it also means I use only 4-5ml of juice daily.

I'm trying to stay free of cigarettes, not create weather. (if I wanted to create weather, it damn sure wouldn't be FOG!)

Andria

 

[ReigntheGamer]

And this is why ECF is losing out to other forums in the current contest. New member posts an upbeat OP discussing their views on vaping and here comes the "BURN ANYONE WHO ISN'T VAPING THE RIGHT WAY CREW"!!!!!!

I'm just glad yall are around or it would get horribly stale reading the same things over and over again.....Oh wait.

 

[Hotwire]

And your post was constructive how...?

 

[ReigntheGamer]

And your post was constructive how...?

I didn't say it was, the again neither was yours so now we both have one.

 

[AndriaD]

It seems my point may have been missed. I support anyone's right to vape in whatever way suits them best. But nowadays, with extremely high-wattage mods being so commonplace, it seems inevitable that a lot of new vapers may have the idea that they *have to* vape at extremely high wattage -- which may be counterproductive, for someone just starting. Remember all the posts from new vapers who find it hard to deal with inhaling vapor, it irritates, it makes them cough, etc etc etc? That's bound to be more of a problem with high wattage, massive clouds, but they're new, they don't know that a lot of us started out at 5-8 watts, and many of us still vape at comparatively low wattage, because it's what we're used to, and we like it.

If someone needs high wattage in order to be satisfied, nowadays that's fairly easy -- they don't have to deal with sub-ohm vaping on a mech -- but if the mod they're using goes to high wattage, but still uses swappable batteries, the same cautions and caveats will apply, regarding amperage and battery capacity -- but they're new, they don't know... and may end up as the next exploding-mod headline. To use high wattage safely and comfortably, one needs to work up to it, get their throat accustomed to vapor instead of smoke, and learn about it, what batteries are safe for that use -- new vapers aren't going to be given that info at most vape shops.

Andria

 

[bman1977]

And this is why ECF is losing out to other forums in the current contest. New member posts an upbeat OP discussing their views on vaping and here comes the "BURN ANYONE WHO ISN'T VAPING THE RIGHT WAY CREW"!!!!!!

I'm just glad yall are around or it would get horribly stale reading the same things over and over again.....Oh wait.

I've always agreed with this. This site has some of the best information but it also has some of the best curmudgeons. This guy's original post said nothing negative and didn't knock anyone and now all the negative comments come out. He was simply praising how far vaping has come.

 

[fenderstrat]

WOW..now I feel at home this is exactly like the rc heli forums
are you actually trying to say that paying more money for inferior equipment is better???The set up I take to work is an MVP2 the original 11W with a miniprotank2 running 1.8 ohm coils hardly a cloud chasing set up.I got the istick 40WTC to see what TC was all about.and for my 1 year vapaversary I treated myself to the 3Li....which right now as I type is set to 35J and 420 deg with a subtank nano,again a fairly tame set up.
I wasn't really pointing out any kind of vaping style just saying that the quality and ammount of products has really improved while prices are dropping how can you feel that is bad.

I do have to crack up at the "200W mod " comments...of course no one vapes anywhere near that.If you bought a ferrari would you drive at 120mph all day??no but you can look great driving at 35mph

 

[Plumes.91]

heck, i remember the days of the lavatube V.1 by L-Rider that thing was RIDICULOUS. The thinnest aluminum walls their lathes would allow... You could crush that thing in your fist like a soda can lmfao. the plastic + and - and firing buttons were like the reset button on a 90's tomagotchi keychain pet HAHA!! i mean that thing was BAD... I remember PBusardo complaining his screen was put in crooked. People were missing pixels... The battery cap threading sounded like you had buried it at the beach before unscrewing it ahah. The paint chipped with a stroke of a car key lol. The 510 connection was stripping out for everyone because they made it out of aluminum initially. The top cap popped off of mine like a party popper in my suitcase on my way to FL vacation... lmao. sheeet... they couldn't of POSSIBLY made a cheaper mod... They must of made MILLIONS and MILLIONS off of us, because EVERYONE owned a Lavatube at SOME point in their vape timeline... There was a point where it was the ONLY mass produced VV mod on the market... They made a FORTUNE... And what do we have to show for it today? Do we have awesome L-RIDER mods that beat out ALLL the competition, because they recieved so much raw cash during that time, that they were able to hire the best of the best industrial designers, machinists, etc/etc? nope. We have NOTHING, because L-Rider DISAPPEARED!?! They came in, made MILLIONS off of that crappy Lavatube... Made MILLIONS off of the Lambo... and then they just LEFT the marketplace.. -_____- gone. No L-Rider variable wattage mods... no L-Rider Temp Control Mods.. Nothing. They made BANK and LEFT. lmfao, a**holes!!

But on a more serious note- Reviewers have been complaining about buttons from the very beginning. Hell, many of us bought the Silver Bullet on pure impulse alone, wanting--- no, NEEDING, to find-out what that interesting signature Silver Bullet fire-button felt like to press in. lol. I know I did. In fact, the clickiness of buttons is so important to me, that I will avoid all mods that have squishy or spongy buttons, excluding the Provari... I literally refuse to buy a mod that does-not include a firing button that sounds like your typing on an 90's keyboard. i LOVE me some clicky buttons. To me, the click of the firing button is an INTEGRAL, MANDATORY piece of the vaping experience... I NEED to hear the click of my button, followed by the sssss sound, followed by the "ppt" of my lips opening up and off of the drip tip. I LIVE for those sounds when vaping. lol. Sorry to be a sensationalist, but everything i just said is 100% true! I love it!

another thing reviewers are complaining about these days is button RATTLE! Now that's something I hate as well. F button rattle, F battery rattle.

 

[motordude]

Keep up the positive attitude OP!
I agree that it is awesome that we have so many options on the market.
Smoking is so last year!

 

[Rizzyking]

Hi and welcome fender your right vaping has come on in leaps and bounds and like you I laugh when the main complaint against a mod is rattly buttons, see reviewers shaking them like maracas and complaining lol. It's both a good and bad time to be into vaping good for all the options and bad for all the legislation rubbish. Glad your enjoying yourself end of the day that's what it's all about oh and staying off tobacco. You'll have to forgive some members they have a gift of seeing negativity in anything lol.

 

[MyMagicMist]

Sometimes you cant see the forrest through the trees.We need to step back and realize we are vaping in a really good time

There is so much going on. Seems every week there is a new mod, tank, RBA, something.
You nail it. We do have a good time to be vaping.

Using a 22 Watt mod here. 2.0 ohm dual coil. Presently I'm happy in mech mode offered by the mod. It hits the coil in the 6.2 to 8.0 Watt range when I fire up. Not chasing clouds yet I do enjoy a modest bit of mist/fog.

The tank I have was bought for less than $7, inclusive of shipping. Yes, it's brand name. Does it matter? I do not really think it does. I enjoy the vape. Wife says I vape without paying attention to the gear.

If you use an RBA and some 1,000 Watt unit and it tickles your fancy, have at it. If you're using some 1 Watt tin can that chunks out ocean spray fog and you get all goosed over it, have at it. To me that is what vaping is about, finding what you like, what works and enjoying.

Yes, we're in a great time to be vaping. We have so much choice and freedom in vaping. It is wonderful.