vaping in public keep it low to keep our rights

[N2rock]

Everyone operating with the "I vape when I want, where I want", are just dead wrong. What that mentality does, is just give scrutiny to all of us. The gov & public don't care! And when you draw attention, the only thing that is going to accomplish is people will start treating vaping the exact same as smoking. End result, it will become illegal to vape just about everywhere. Give up the bravado!

Now for those that vape where ever they chose, but don't give any indication (IE: hold it until no vape comes out). Well that truly is the way to do it IF you must have a vape.

Me personally- never in a movie theater, restaurant, plane, etc. But I do vape in my office and in my home (places I never smoked in). I've sat in an Airport for 3 hours, followed by a 4 hour flight- 7 hours without a vape, and it didn't bother me one bit. Anyone can survive any situation without vaping. Let's not draw more attention to us than that which is already drawn.

 

[RoseB]

Sorry but I'm not making myself sick to vape PG. I'm also not making myself sick by avoiding nicotine (luckily I'm not in situations where vaping would be frowned on that long).

The answer is at neither extreme (vape anywhere - stealth in public), it's a simple be respectful.

PG is hard on me as well. I don't use my e cig in smoke free zones, for the most part. If in doubt I ask. A few times in the beginning of the switch, I would catch myself having a mindless puff. Which leads me to ask : did anyone else ever light a cigarette in a completely inappropriate place? As in Walmart or some place similar? Or at least catch themselves on the verge of doing so? Not to be rebellious, but just out of habit?

 

[redeyes24321]

The worst thing we can do is to vape furtively as it suggests that we have something to be ashamed of.

Exactly! We have rights... and if we don't stand up for them they WILL be taken away. Come on ppl!

 

[garcia1996]

Vaping on a plane was about 2yrs ago. I wasn't aware of any restrictions back then.
My stomach did drop the first time I tried though. As soon as I exhaled, I imagined someone yelling, fire! Haven't done it since. Not to say I wouldn't if stuck on a runway for too long somewhere.

 

[redeyes24321]

Everyone operating with the "I vape when I want, where I want", are just dead wrong. What that mentality does, is just give scrutiny to all of us. The gov & public don't care! And when you draw attention, the only thing that is going to accomplish is people will start treating vaping the exact same as smoking. End result, it will become illegal to vape just about everywhere. Give up the bravado!

Now for those that vape where ever they chose, but don't give any indication (IE: hold it until no vape comes out). Well that truly is the way to do it IF you must have a vape.

Me personally- never in a movie theater, restaurant, plane, etc. But I do vape in my office and in my home (places I never smoked in). I've sat in an Airport for 3 hours, followed by a 4 hour flight- 7 hours without a vape, and it didn't bother me one bit. Anyone can survive any situation without vaping. Let's not draw more attention to us than that which is already drawn.

Haven't you been following the FDA BS? They already are lumping us in with smokers...

 

[ScottP]

Haven't you been following the FDA BS? They already are lumping us in with smokers...

Right. So are we going to let them and go sulk in shadows or are we going to have a Boston vape party and do something about this?

 

[JColt]

When they kicked my .... out of every place for smoking, I stayed out and dont miss it. I save money not buying, tickets, restaurants, travel. So I vape at home and stealth vape at work. I'm used to it.

 

[bluecat]

Right. So are we going to let them and go sulk in shadows or are we going to have a Boston vape party and do something about this?

Personally I don't want someone blowing a cloud of "insert favorite flavor" while I am eating as much as I do not want the cig or cigar. Or a vape cloud coming across while I am watching a movie. I don't care whether it is harmful or not.

Yes I was an evil smoker. Yes, I solely vape now except for my lovely cigars.

I figure to earn respect you have to be willing to give some.

 

[Cactus Breath]

i think you people kowtowing to anti smoking nazis are panzies

unless its a private place and the owner doesnt want you vaping there or there is some law in effect that you cant vape there then you should vape wherever you want to vape

its harmless to bystanders so this is more or less like telling people not to wear perfume, not to bbq, not to whatever

screw all that noise

vape on

I ride dirt bikes and off-road vehicles, and the people within our hobby with this type of attitude are the ones that have succeeded in getting us shut out almost everywhere. Just because it's legal to ride within 50 feet of a row of backyards in a housing tract at 8:00 am on a Sunday doesn't mean it's a good idea - and it certainly doesn't do anything to further our cause. Nobody is being "harmed" by the noise and dust, but they're certainly being irritated by it - and that's what turns somebody from being neutral/not caring about an issue into somebody who's violently opposed to it. Exercising the "right" to ride anywhere/everywhere it's not outright prohibited has resulted in a lot of "No Trespassing", "No Off-Road Vehicle Activity", etc. signs being posted because people didn't exercise a little common sense/courtesy.

Vaping can go down the exact same road (and it's already headed that way). I don't advocate hiding in a dark closet to vape for fear of offending somebody, but I don't advocate walking around blowing clouds anywhere and everywhere just because it's not explicitly prohibited either. There's a middle ground which involves using a little common sense and having courtesy for those around you. Being militant and flagrant about it only serves to turn more people against it, which is not what we need.

 

[Rickajho]

So, you are saying we should take the approach of sneaking around, making it intentionally look like we are doing something that should be hidden, in order to raise suspicion about vaping and confirm to the naysayers that it must be bad. Only people who feel guilty about their actions go out of the way to hide them and feel compelled to be sneaky about it.

Low output vaping? Nice try. So, since I'm allergic to PG I should put myself in an emergency room with an acute PG reaction in order to do the right - convert, sneaky - thing. Vapers who then catch vapers blowing large clouds in public should take matters in their own hands and "deal with" that person effectively because, after all, they are only going to ruin it for everyone else.

Since it isn't smoke and rarely smells of anything at all your point in not exposing vape to anyone would be...?

My gosh! You have convinced yourself that vaping is as bad as smoking! If you think going invisible is going to change that perception anywhere... good luck with that as the real solution. You could try moving to Singapore and see how well the vaping experience works for you there under a government imposed ban. Hide in public - I'm sure that will prevent it from happening.

 

[N2rock]

Right. So are we going to let them and go sulk in shadows or are we going to have a Boston vape party and do something about this?

Boston Vape Party = Gov't stepping up and saying: No vaping in public, no internet sales, no (insert worst case scenario here).

We should be staying under the radar as much as possible if we want to continue enjoying it.

 

[e-pipeman]

We should be staying under the radar as much as possible if we want to continue enjoying it.

Staying under the radar? We're not illegal fighter planes, nor are we doing anything illegal. We don't have to skulk in the shadows. Imho we're all involved in something that is a remarkable step forward and of benefit to society as a whole.

 

[N2rock]

Staying under the radar? We're not illegal fighter planes, nor are we doing anything illegal. We don't have to skulk in the shadows. Imho we're all involved in something that is a remarkable step forward and of benefit to society as a whole.

I guess you trust your gov't more than I trust mine

 

[mute42]

I guess you trust your gov't more than I trust mine

Looks like you are afraid of your government.

Stand up for what you believe in, Just don't forget to use common sense.

i can't read your mind and neither can the Government (Thank goodness.)

 

[plutonium]

you would be a great stealth teacher

 

[eric1973]

I vape wherever it is legal and does not cross the written policies of any business, though not at a friend's or relative's home if they do not wish it. There is a reason why combustible cigarettes were banned just 10 short years ago in most places. Vapor does not have those dangers.

If anyone in public has a problem, I carry educational material and casaa cards to inform them of the errors in their opinions... not that they want to hear it. I can present factual information and study conclusions, but opinions cannot be proven or disproven. Hence the power of modern media and its sheep.

Regardless, I obey the law.

 

[lunarresonance]

I agree, I vape proudly anywhere people are smoking. I have no problem with what I do or who I am. I do, however, stealth vape at work, or any other place that is not out-right banned. Mostly because I prefer they not notice, therefore have no reason or knowledge of anything to prohibit. I like vaping, I enjoy it. I don't want other peoples ignorance of it's safety, or what not, to keep me from being able to enjoy my "fix" wherever I want. I am not hiding because I am ashamed, but simply to keep enjoying my privilege to do so. I enjoy educating other people about what I am doing, but on their terms, not mine. It is just the polite thing to do. I hope you people who feel the need to show your RIGHTS to the world, don't ruin it for the rest of us. We have the right to do a lot of things, but if you are inconsiderate of other peoples rights, guess what? They will take away your privileges.

 

[e-pipeman]

I guess you trust your gov't more than I trust mine

I hope that sensible decisions will be made by government on this issue. I hope that they have thorough evidence-based backing for decisions they make about vaping. I'm a natural optimist .

I still think that we don't advance our argument by behaving as if we should be ashamed of vaping. People have to see that it is a good thing. Most people react really positively to it when I show them how my devices work, and the more people who feel that way the greater our chances of long-term success imho. That can't happen if we vape in hiding.

 

[the_vape_nerd]

Personally I don't want someone blowing a cloud of "insert favorite flavor" while I am eating as much as I do not want the cig or cigar. Or a vape cloud coming across while I am watching a movie. I don't care whether it is harmful or not.

Yes I was an evil smoker. Yes, I solely vape now except for my lovely cigars.

I figure to earn respect you have to be willing to give some.

yeah well i dont want 70 yr old ladies wearing white linen perfume at the next table...i dont want my neighbor out there billowing smoke for 10 hours while he cooks a brisket...im sick and tired of smelling cookies when i walk into the deli dept of walmart

my vaping doesnt disrepect anyone in the same way bbqing in your backyard isnt disrespecting anyone....

 

[ScottP]

Not just over vaping, but over the flat out assault on our rights period that has been going on for a while has me thinking our Government is going to end up causing an uprising. Speaking of which, I love that song....especially the bolded verse.

Lyrics to "UPRISING" - Muse
The paranoia is in bloom
The P.R. transmissions will resume
They'll try to push drugs, keep us all dumbed down
And hope that we will never see the truth around, so come on

Another promise, another scene, another
Packaged lie to keep us trapped in greed with all the
Green belts wrapped around our minds and endless
Red tape to keep the truth confined, so come on

They will not force us
And they will stop degrading us
And they will not control us
We will be victorious, so come on

Interchanging mind control
Come let the revolution take its toll
If you could flick a switch and open your third eye
You'd see that we should never be afraid to die

So come on

Rise up and take the power back
It's time the fat cats had a heart attack
You know that their time is coming to an end
We have to unify and watch our flag ascend

So come on

They will not force us
They will stop degrading us
They will not control us
We will be victorious, so come on

Hey, hey, hey, hey
Hey, hey, hey, hey
Hey, hey, hey, hey

They will not force us
They will stop degrading us
They will not control us
We will be victorious, so come on

Hey, hey, hey, hey