Yep. I can sit through a movie at the theater and actually watch the movie instead of watching the time until I can go smoke. 
Vaping may deepen your nicotine addiction?
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When I started out, I was using 18 strength and I felt that I was getting a lot more nic than I did with cigarettes. Still use 18, but don't feel it so much as being more, gotten used to it I guess. I never got any bad side effects, except maybe a very mild headache once in a while but I get that occasionally anyway, so it's all been good. I look at this like being able to have my cake and eat it too, and since I've noticed no ill effects whatsoever I really don't see any reason to worry about it at all. I certainly don't feel any need to increase the nic level, or decrease it either. The monkey that used to slap me upside the head with his constant admonitions of "HAVE A CIGARETTE!" seems to have gone AWOL, and has been replaced by the monkey who justs wants his bananas and peaches and canteloupe and strawberry gumbies and a few other yummy treats! I say he can have all he wants!
it might deepen your addiction, it might not. all we know is that nicotine was never the problem with cigarettes. Its the tar thats the problem.
Well I started vaping 18 tried 24 went back to 18 and have stayed there. I vape more, but it feels different. I never need to vape only want to. I have 3 hours worth of meetings at work, I don't vape in the meetings and I get through them fine. When I smoked I was waiting for the chance to run outside and light up. Used to get pretty ...... if anybody got between me and the door.
So yes I vape more, I might even on a strictly chemical way be getting more nicotine, but I am much less addicted to it. I even typed this entire message without thinking about vaping once.
So yes I vape more, I might even on a strictly chemical way be getting more nicotine, but I am much less addicted to it. I even typed this entire message without thinking about vaping once.
You ain't alone. I was finishing up tax stuff (yeah, I waited for the last minute, my own fault) and, um, well... had two.
There really is something "soothing" about the blasted things. I used to think that was just an acquired thing, the calming aspect? Apparently, the tobacco creeps have been adding stuff to enhance that effect so it's more than just habit and ritual and all (which are very big with me which is probably why I tried to make "cig-a-like" work though, fortunately, not for long).
Sigh.
Well, on the other hand, I went quite a while without so much as thinking about them. So I'll read my sig and take my own advice.
By the way, Myk, wholly off topic but love the avatar pic.
Yeah, dog person here. Missing my two. They both made it to ripe old ages but it's never long enough...
Yeah, dog person here. Missing my two. They both made it to ripe old ages but it's never long enough...
There's a whole ton of addicting substances in cigarettes, and nicotine isn't the worst of them.
That's one of biggest concerns with BT getting into the business. If they manage to dominate by advantageous laws or just brute force image what they would put in our juice or what it would do to us O.O!
I'll probably get jumped on for this, but I think once you're addicted, you're addicted. I don't think nicotine addiction can be deepened, or even lessened, it's a constant. I think it's a brain neurocircuitry thing, once you've been wired, you're wired. This is my experience, I completely quit analogs for 10+ years, but the addiction stuck with me was with me every step along the way. Oh sure the cravings went away, the auto-impulse died, but the addiction didn't. IMO your nic addiction isn't going away, ever. It just doesn't work that way. Oh sure you can control it, manage it, intervene, widdle it down, even quit for long periods, or forever, but you can't get rid of it once you've got it.
It's all about personal goals. I sure as heck like vaping more than smoking. I have always appreciated good tasting items. I figure I get to taste all I want and not worry I'll gain weight.
As for Nic, I smoked pk+ per day for 45 yrs. I'm 7 months in and down to 12mg with some 6mg liquids. With my newly ordered DIY supplies I intend to be at 9mg in a few weeks and hopefully 0-3 by years end.
Will I stop vaping - probably not, as I do enjoy it.
As for Nic, I smoked pk+ per day for 45 yrs. I'm 7 months in and down to 12mg with some 6mg liquids. With my newly ordered DIY supplies I intend to be at 9mg in a few weeks and hopefully 0-3 by years end.
Will I stop vaping - probably not, as I do enjoy it.
I don't know how you vape, but even though I may do it more frequently, a cigarette lastd around seven minutes. I take a few vapes, then wait a while. I really don't know if I'm using less nicotine, but it seems like it. Also nicotine isn't absorbed as fast in vaping as it is smoking. I hope that made sense, I'm tired right now.
I don't think you should be jumped on for being different.
It seems your experience doesn't represent the majority, but there are many others that share your experience.
It just goes to show that one size does not fit all.
Thinking that one size fits all is a mistake that plays right into the hands of our enemies.
everyone who has tried vaping --quits cold turkey from what I am gathering
I did
down to 6-10 mg in one month
vaping more than smoked
I did
down to 6-10 mg in one month
vaping more than smoked
I was a pretty inconsistent smoker, meaning I could smoke anywhere from 75% of a pack of smokes to 2 PAD. It all really depended on how much I drank and well, 
. Now, when I started vaping, I was at 18 mg--I vape at 24 mg to 32 mg now. Is this an example of deepening my addiction to nicotine? I don't necessarily think so. I like the flavor more with high nic and I surely like the hit of high nic.
I don't vape a whole lot, likely due to the higher nic, but I go though about 2 mL a day (at least that's the way it has been lately.) What I can say is that I recently took a trip to Vegas/LA and I was there for about 5 days 4 nights. I took no vaping supplies with me. It was partly as an experiment and partly due to a fear of walking through an airport metal detector with a ProVari (and having it confiscated). That is scary!
When I was without my vaping supplies, the first hour or so off the plane I desperately wanted to vape. I mean it. But, something weird happened after the following hours--I stopped thinking about it. I never bugged out and went to a gas station, I didn't go through withdrawals, and I didn't even have a headache. For the past two years, I maybe went, at most, a couple days without vaping (a couple surgeries on my mouth), but this was about 5 days. I would have never been able to do that when I smoked. Not a chance. Nope.
This is not to say that anybody can do it, but I know, like GT alluded to, what really was the kicker for me with cigarettes was the minor alkaloids more so than the nicotine. Sure, the nicotine may have been at the root of my addiction, but the crankiness, mood swings, erratic behavior and all out fiendish ways, for me, seemed to be related to why so many have a hard time switching, and what so many feel is missing with vaping--the minor alkaloids.
. Now, when I started vaping, I was at 18 mg--I vape at 24 mg to 32 mg now. Is this an example of deepening my addiction to nicotine? I don't necessarily think so. I like the flavor more with high nic and I surely like the hit of high nic.I don't vape a whole lot, likely due to the higher nic, but I go though about 2 mL a day (at least that's the way it has been lately.) What I can say is that I recently took a trip to Vegas/LA and I was there for about 5 days 4 nights. I took no vaping supplies with me. It was partly as an experiment and partly due to a fear of walking through an airport metal detector with a ProVari (and having it confiscated). That is scary!
When I was without my vaping supplies, the first hour or so off the plane I desperately wanted to vape. I mean it. But, something weird happened after the following hours--I stopped thinking about it. I never bugged out and went to a gas station, I didn't go through withdrawals, and I didn't even have a headache. For the past two years, I maybe went, at most, a couple days without vaping (a couple surgeries on my mouth), but this was about 5 days. I would have never been able to do that when I smoked. Not a chance. Nope.
This is not to say that anybody can do it, but I know, like GT alluded to, what really was the kicker for me with cigarettes was the minor alkaloids more so than the nicotine. Sure, the nicotine may have been at the root of my addiction, but the crankiness, mood swings, erratic behavior and all out fiendish ways, for me, seemed to be related to why so many have a hard time switching, and what so many feel is missing with vaping--the minor alkaloids.
I was a pack a day+ smoker and started Vaping at 18mg then down to 12 in 2 months, then down to 6 and I'm borderline 0mg now. I am now addicted to seeing large plumes of clouds!!!
I vape 16mg - 36mg liquids, and just like when I smoked I get over nicotined sometimes. I'd say two to four times a day or more, I don't know why. The feeling is not very good, many times I'll have to lay down or drink alot of water. But I guess its the addiction to nicotine that drives me to want more and more. When I've vaped low levels of nicotine it drove me crazy craving more nicotine. I'd say as far as comparing my vaping to smoking, the nicotine addiction is the same without all the other crap. So either way I'm still better off now then I was when I smoked.
Cigarettes seem to deliver nicotine far more efficiently than an ecig, I've never got that same headrush from vaping that you get when you smoke a Newport Red for instance. Most of the current studies indicate little to no nicotine delivered to the bloodstream. These were all done with cig-a-like devices though, I would be interested in seeing some Cotinine tests after vaping something likemy Provari or Sabre Max and a Genesis. Even with those, though, I never seem to get that huge headrush even with 24mg.
This has all been done, and you are somewhat correct.
Studies using cigalikes with no instruction show nearly no nicotine absorption.
Studies with experienced vapors using their own devices show nicotine levels approaching smokers.
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