VERSION 2.5 Vision ViVi Nova Is IN STOCK Now, VIVI NOVA Review Thread

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Pete54

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Just received my "novas". I'm running two tanks, both with the 2.4Ω coil. One is on a Provari at 4.0 volts, the other on a Kicked Phidias at 8 watts. Build quality looks excellent. Now I'm experiencing a similar muting of flavor but my previous experience with CE2's in a tank (I've never used any of the other stuff like Stardusts) is that the first tank is always not that good. After one tank what I always did was wash off the coil, let it dry and then do a couple of 4 second dry burns. After that they were excellent for months! I am hopeful that these will improve the same way because I'm tired of using poly filled cartos that start out great and go downhill fast with each refill.
I remain cautiously optimistic!

Ok, I take it back! 10 minutes later and they're working VERY well. If these don't leak I'll be a very happy camper!
 
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I hope you're not taking our comments as being unappreciative of your work, you've done some great stuff here no doubt.

Though... I wouldn't say that everything else working and "just" lack of flavor is not a major problem. If that was the case I'd just be buying bulk nic to mix with PG and call it a day. All of our liquid vendors rely on their flavor to set them apart, so I'd call muted (and in this case significantly muted) flavor a pretty significant problem.

If you have any other suggestions to try I'll be more than happy to help, I'm just at a loss here..


i didnt say you need to tinker, they seem to be working, so not getting flavor is something i couldnt tell you. others are saying they are getitng fantastic flavor so at this point im not seeing a issue and just trying to help to see why your not getting flavor, if everyitng else is perfect then there isnt a major problem, so lets see what could be the cause to the flavor thing.

im here dealing with this and not hiding in my room, i could easily tell you flavor is subjective since everything else seems to be working, but im not doing that and trying to see with everyone here what is going on and if its the unit or what.
 

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i would do it the same as stardust exactly

OK, I'm going to try that right now. I agree, though it may not seem that way, I think it's a wicking issue. Stardust works. I'll see if I can make this pup just like the Stardust.

And, the few times when I got a reallyl good hit, the taste was good too. Stay tuned, this will take a bit of time. Got to get the juice out first. :)

BTW - no flooding to speak of. I turned the thing upside down and shook it. A couple of hits were a tad low on vapor, and that's about it. No burbling, didn't need to blow.

In the process I dropped it *hard*. No problem. :)
 

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I hope you're not taking our comments as being unappreciative of your work, you've done some great stuff here no doubt.

Though... I wouldn't say that everything else working and "just" lack of flavor is not a major problem. If that was the case I'd just be buying bulk nic to mix with PG and call it a day. All of our liquid vendors rely on their flavor to set them apart, so I'd call muted (and in this case significantly muted) flavor a pretty significant problem.

If you have any other suggestions to try I'll be more than happy to help, I'm just at a loss here..

it wasnt a reply to you vapor and im just saying lets see what is going on before casting this as some massive issue, your not getting flavor, briar isnt, everyone else is, i dont know what could be the cause, im getting flavor, others who are using them are also getting flavor and letting me know in skype. I dont know if these coils might need more breaking in then others since these where recommended by iken, not sure if its your juices in this unit, ill need more feedback from you and others. , so im noting that you and briar and the other poster i think feel the flavor is muted but everything else is fine, briar had to adjust for more vapor.
 

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I hope you're not taking our comments as being unappreciative of your work, you've done some great stuff here no doubt.

Though... I wouldn't say that everything else working and "just" lack of flavor is not a major problem. If that was the case I'd just be buying bulk nic to mix with PG and call it a day. All of our liquid vendors rely on their flavor to set them apart, so I'd call muted (and in this case significantly muted) flavor a pretty significant problem.

If you have any other suggestions to try I'll be more than happy to help, I'm just at a loss here..

I agree... He has done a TON for the vaping community... My point with the flavor issue, is that I get better flavor from a regular BOGE poly fill carto that I do from this using the same juice. I have no clue what could be causing this mute flavor.

Bad - You never answered my question... why the wicks with no coil?

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I'm using pretty fresh boba's if that helps. On the upside, it does seem to be wicking the 100% PG very well.
When I say very muted, I say that as compared to both dripping the same liquid, and using from the same bottle in a Stardust (which is muted compared to the others but still acceptable), and in a CE2+ Supreme (diluted with PG in here).
Oddly even diluted, the CE2+ is second in line only to direct dripping.
I haven't tried the other heads in the Nova yet, but have tried this one at various voltages on the ProVari so unless this particular head is a dud, trying the others shouldn't matter.
 

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I'm using pretty fresh boba's if that helps. On the upside, it does seem to be wicking the 100% PG very well.
When I say very muted, I say that as compared to both dripping the same liquid, and using from the same bottle in a Stardust (which is muted compared to the others but still acceptable), and in a CE2+ Supreme (diluted with PG in here).
Oddly even diluted, the CE2+ is second in line only to direct dripping.
I haven't tried the other heads in the Nova yet, but have tried this one at various voltages on the ProVari so unless this particular head is a dud, trying the others shouldn't matter.

That about sums up my issue too... ^

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that was done to push juice in faster by having it loose on top, also so you could use other wick if wanted, also becuase you can cut that one specifically while leaving the others long, or cutting all down. that was done to give everyone a choice or way to play around with them.

lets work together and see what we find out to help you guys and gals out
 

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that was done to push juice in faster by having it loose on top, also so you could use other wick if wanted, also becuase you can cut that one specifically while leaving the others long, or cutting all down. that was done to give everyone a choice or way to play around with them.

lets work together and see what we find out to help you guys and gals out

Hmmmm... I wonder if cutting the top two down so they just touch the inner wall of the tank would help?.. think maybe we are getting too much juice to the coil?

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Will do. I'm almost through the first tank as I was trying to stick with it to rule out any break-in issues. Heading home from work shortly so I'll finish out the tank and if I don't see any change I'll swap out the head.
Any preference as to which I try next?
For consistency, I'll stick with the same liquid.
Either way, I'll provide updates.
Appreciate you working with us as usual.
Did you see my other post on the C8? Any tips on that one?

welll vapor2112 i would ask you try the other head, so we know if its the head or what
 

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Will do. I'm almost through the first tank as I was trying to stick with it to rule out any break-in issues. Heading home from work shortly so I'll finish out the tank and if I don't see any change I'll swap out the head.
Any preference as to which I try next?
For consistency, I'll stick with the same liquid.
Either way, I'll provide updates.
Appreciate you working with us as usual.
Did you see my other post on the C8? Any tips on that one?


im working with the c8 today, i tried 6, 1 was giving me dry hits, the others where fine, so ill disect it later today and see whats going on.
 

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it ownt harm it cutting the wicks as they originaly has short wicks and the only decided recently to leave them long so people can cut them , themselves if they choose too, which i would suggest but its a option.

I'm going to go ahead and finish this tank, and then cut them down... I'll report back in a few... fingers crossed... lol


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I cut all the wicks on the 2.4 ohm head to where they are just touching the sides of the tank and it is working great now.

Tim, Were you getting the same muted results as the others prior to cutting them down and getting it to work well ?. I only grabbed one of these VIVI's so Im gonna sit back and let you guys fiddle a bit till a final verdict comes in.. lol
 

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Tim, Were you getting the same muted results as the others prior to cutting them down and getting it to work well ?. I only grabbed one of these VIVI's so Im gonna sit back and let you guys fiddle a bit till a final verdict comes in.. lol
Yes I was I havent done it yet on the other two yet ,but is has helped the 2.4 head.
 
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