VERSION 2.5 Vision ViVi Nova Is IN STOCK Now, VIVI NOVA Review Thread

[Briar]

... The washer has smaller center hole than the silicone so choking or holding back most of the vapor.

Not that much. It's been tried with problematic heads. Also I tried replacing the washer with a pip by the old style washer with just a hole in it, which was the same diameter as the hole in the hat. It didn't do anything to improve the flavor.

And, like I said, most folks with bad heads had lots and lots of vapor.

 

[harmonic]

The washer is there to prevent the silicone from cutting the top off from over tightening the top.

??? Explain please?

the silicone sits on a sharp tube. the washer goes between the end of the tube and the silicone. remove the washer and reassemble and when you tighten the top down the sharp edge of the atty tube will cut into the silicone possibly all the way through just like a hole punch.
a better fix might be to drill out the center of the washer and make it bigger?

 

[Briar]

the silicone sits on a sharp tube. the washer goes between the end of the tube and the silicone. remove the washer and reassemble and when you tighten the top down the sharp edge of the atty tube will cut into the silicone possibly all the way through just like a hole punch.
a better fix might be to drill out the center of the washer and make it bigger?

Hm. Tried that on a spare one - didn't happen. The mouthpiece tube is too short. (God, don't ever tell me about something that has to do with jumping off a tall building... i might do it for the sake of experimentation...)

I don't think you want to remove the hat - not in these problematic heads, at any rate. Anything that loosens the draw kills the flavor. Here is what I tried in my experimentation: lifting the hats (opens up the slots and increases the space above the coil - killed the flavor entirely); trimming the hat (opens up the slots - killed the flavor enirely); changing the hat with a pip to a head without a pip (opens up the hole - this made no difference at all); removing the extra floating wick (just because, but it also opened up the space all around - made the flavor less). All this was done on a head that produced lots of vapor but not a lot of flavor.

Bottom line is that anything that opened up the draw either decreased or killed the flavor outright. The only thing that comes to mind is that since these things are pretty loose on the draw to begin with, increasing the draw dilutes the flavor? But, then, if the draw is tighter, the air speed is greater, so the air has less time to pick up the flavor. That is, assuming that the vaper draws the exact same amount of air no matter what the draw is... It's a mess. I have no idea why, all I know is what happened.

Oh, btw, covering up one of the holes did improve the flavor just a tad, imho - or maybe I was hallucinating at that point...

 

[Bmays]

I personally think its a "feel good" fix. I had several of those only to find out whatever I did really made no difference. Oh well, Its fun playing and trying new things.

 

[Briar]

I personally think its a "feel good" fix. I had several of those only to find out whatever I did really made no difference. Oh well, Its fun playing and trying new things.

Yeah, in the end it seemed to me that I was better off just leaving the durned thing alone, floating wick and all. I didn't have the ickity burning rubber odor tho. I guess no fix for that but rebuilding the thing.

 

[zippersnapper]

OK, So im cool ordering the basic tank package, with the intent of rebuilding the heads.
Then, if I'm reading this correct, in a few days/weeks, we should have "New and Improved" heads for sale?

I just watched Rockin' Robs vid on the teardown, looks alot easier than the stardusts...

 

[mwa102464]

Wonder if a ceramic cup turned upside down and fit over the metal tube would be better then the silicone piece ?

 

[chrisz]

That's what it sounds like to me. Just finished reading this thread front to back. Been at it on & off for 3 days. I'm definitely getting one, and it made me order phoenix xl & I believe a stardust for now. Now just need to wait for there to be actual in stock vivis...

 

[vikeme28]

no one ever said that.

Thanks bad. Was just wondering, MM still has you beat on the tongue

 

[badkolo]

i have a few vivi left and ill put them up later tonight

 

[zippersnapper]

I was thinking the same mwa...What really bites the big one is, about 5 years ago my best freind who was a Jeweler, was trying to sell me his Milling machine for $500...GOD I wish I would have bought that thing !!!!

chrisz-there are other vendors selling the Vivi's, a few with replacement heads in stock...
Since I live just 20 Min from "Got Vapes" Sugarland Office, I feel compeled to order from them...
Even though my order must be shipped from NY...MAJOR BUMMER !!!!

 

[Briar]

Wonder if a ceramic cup turned upside down and fit over the metal tube would be better then the silicone piece ?

That sounds wonderful at first glance - but unless you have adjustable size wick slots (which Bad says are coming), how the heck are you going to fiddle with it? Wouldn't be able to trim it and stuff... I haven't had to with the Stardust - but, duuuude, it's just not riiiiiiiight...

Seriously, though, with an adjustable size wick slot it's a great way to do it. No bending/stretching/singeing. Sturdier. Note I didn't say "cutting by the post" - still can't get it to happen. I'm giving up.

Maybe the adjustable ones *will* have ceramic hats? Bad? It would only make sense, after all, whatever is being turned for adjustment has to be hard-ish...

 

[MissEmma]

Yeah, in the end it seemed to me that I was better off just leaving the durned thing alone, floating wick and all. I didn't have the ickity burning rubber odor tho. I guess no fix for that but rebuilding the thing.

I've tried several things I've seen on this thread. Mine still taste like burning rubber...blech!! I don't even want to buy new heads because I'm afraid everything will taste like that.

 

[hdzrtvap]

Sitting here vaping on my stock out of the box vivi's, yup thats right got two of them and been vaping them everyday all day for two weeks and cant put them down. Been following this thread from day one and hate to read the problems people are having.

I hope when the new ones come out they will be as good or better and everyone will be happy, thanks gotvapes for all your efforts.

 

[CMEC85]

mine has been great...with all 3 heads....good taste good vapor...negatvie pin on the connector stuck out to far but from using it has been pushed in...its been my favorite vape since i got it in the mail

 

[Briar]

Yeah, when they work, they work good. And, most of them actually do work. I think I mentioned it before, but out of 12 heads (I ended up with four tanks), two were bad, one was iffy, and the rest work just fine.

 

[Robby]

Taking the metal stopper off the top of the atty assembly might have worked for him but mine is still in and after replacing everything else in the atty with fluxo parts it works like a beast..I think the problem with mine and many others on this thread was the coil and the shoddy workmanship by vision/whoever on wrapping and testing the coil..ohms were almost always off..one of mine was mushed against the sidewall..then they put a ton of wick in it that seemed to do the opposite of what youd want wick to do since after taking apart the wicks were burnt from lack of liquid getting to the coil. Only using at 3.4-3.7 before anyone says high voltage.. Badkolo said he didnt have any part in the atty design on these but on the overall design and the overall design is rocking and when I use gotvapes parts inside the atty the whole unit is rocking.

My brother came over and seen me messing with it..says to me..man it seems like theres alot involved in that (ecigs) I always see you messing with something and you always have different stuff..I told him it seems that way because Ecigs can be as simple or as complicated as you want them to be..I like to tinker and modify them so thats what I do..but you can also buy simple batteries and prefilled cartos that are as simple as twist on a new carto and keep your battery charged.

Point being..I think many or at least some of you would agree its been fun following this thread and ripping apart the nova
long post i know just waking up still cut me some slack

 

[badkolo]

its fun, its educational, its keeps us all busy and away form analogs and it leads to breakthroughs, it also leads to many more products hitting the pipeline at a faster rate then before. The tinkering eventually helps to improving products and to be honest I rather improve a product then let it die, you never know what it could lead too and past errors can and have lead to future winners.

 

[Bmays]

Hey bad, sent you a PM

 

[daveinleics]

Well my heads were doing OK as well, but after watching the Rocking Robin video I re-wicked one and it is now even better. Really easy to do - easier than a re-buildable, well a lot easier than some! I think this makes a good innovative product even better.