VERSION 2.5 Vision ViVi Nova Is IN STOCK Now, VIVI NOVA Review Thread

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I had the same problem with my 2.4 ohm coil. I reads like 3.8 ohms and there is no airflow to it when I screw it to the nova,

sounds like the coil is smooshed down blocking the air hole. also if its pushed down it could be shorting one of the coil loops to the connector. try very carefully lifting up the coil either from the tip with a tool or you might could push it up a little from the bottom buy pushing in the hole with a blunt needle or paperclip. i had a similar problem with a phoenix and this solved it.
 

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I have to disagree with you Briar. Paying customers should not be used to test out new products. Most products, when in the development phase, are sent out to beta testers free of charge. Their feedback is used to tweak the product until it's determined to be ready to be "sold" to customers. I do love the whole design of these but they are clearly not ready for prime time. I have six boxes (over $100.00) of these and they are not usable, period.
 

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they are informed and in a meeting, they did random tests and i saw this personaly and im sure other vendors did as well, they are trying to find ones that get this taste some are mentioning and then try to pinpoint whats going on, hold on to your heads, remember the product so far has had no issues elsewhere, so going by what the posters are telling us, some heads might be having a issue with taste being muted or off taste that doesnt taste right.

no leaking, no gurgling, airflow is good etc... so at least we know what we are dealing with and where to locate whats going on, try your other heads, once they confirm anything and figure this out, the customers of gotvapes will not need to worry, we will work something out.

Dan has tested his sets, he didnt have issues, I tested my randoms and didnt have issues, i did feel one was off taste wise but was able to cure it, and another head could have given more flavor.

The ones who are enjoying theres, im glad to hear and for others who are not getting the flavor they want try your heads and we will report back once we find out something on that front.
 

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What does "we will work something out" mean....
Things will be "fixed" and a new version will be come available for us to purchase and essentially test again?
I'm down that road now on v3 of the Cryptonite and I haven't gotten a single decent hit off of that $11 cart...
Or does this mean that those who have had problems will actually be sent replacements?
Sorry, but I've spent a fair amount of money with you guys and have been through just too many duds.
Ordered the Sapphires the night you released them, never had one last more than one fill without blackening the juice gurgling,etc...
Answer just always seems to be wait for and pay for a new version...
We've got 11 pages and over 103 posts here, clearly there is a problem...
And I've still gotten no real response on that C8 either....
Please help us all understand what actions will be taken here to help your loyal customers.
I've stuck it out through several of these releases, and I'm unfortunately reaching the end of the line here...
I've not put 7+ml's of good juice through this without any flavor just hoping this would come through...


they are informed and in a meeting, they did random tests and i saw this personaly and im sure other vendors did as well, they are trying to find ones that get this taste some are mentioning and then try to pinpoint whats going on, hold on to your heads, remember the product so far has had no issues elsewhere, so going by what the posters are telling us, some heads might be having a issue with taste being muted or off taste that doesnt taste right.

no leaking, no gurgling, airflow is good etc... so at least we know what we are dealing with and where to locate whats going on, try your other heads, once they confirm anything and figure this out, the customers of gotvapes will not need to worry, we will work something out.

Dan has tested his sets, he didnt have issues, I tested my randoms and didnt have issues, i did feel one was off taste wise but was able to cure it, and another head could have given more flavor.

The ones who are enjoying theres, im glad to hear and for others who are not getting the flavor they want try your heads and we will report back once we find out something on that front.
 
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theres no need for the sarcasm vapor2112, if i say ill work something out that means ill work something out.

we are a company that grows, if everyone was experiencing your issues we wouldnt be in business, ill take it you just have bad luck with our products, since we have tons of return customers and tons of new ones that come back, tons of places that buy large amount and i dont get many complaints, we dont deal with many issue in tickets and see the complaints more here on ecf where people are more vocal , im here daily, i could be ignoring all this, like other vendors who are barely aorund, ive been here for every single release and deal wit any issues people here might have. Now you know others will carry this as well and also carry other products that have issues in minor amounts equally form vendor to vendor, are you going to go there and say these things to them.

anyway i said i will handle issue with the nova, they dont want issues to be happening.

and while i appreciate you opinion and respect it i dont like your tone your taking with me.
 
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I'm really not trying to be snippy here, just trying to figure out what that means. I'm sure you are equally frustrated, and have orders / inventory that you can't afford to have sit if this isn't resolved. I know you're invested as well, its just kind of disappointing that we get these items touted as the best things since slided bread, and they continue to be more headache overall than their worth (yes, I know some have had success with them).

I have to wonder how many new potential vapers get turned off by things like this... "I ordered the best one, brand new technology and it doesn't work"... Back to analogs they go... These should at minimum be advertised as first run, etc...

Historically, changes have been made, and we've all purchased to test again.

If there is potentially something else planned including the possibility of replacement heads being sent out (if that's where the problem is), that would be a completely different story.

I'm getting off my soapbox for real this time.

I apologize if you disagree with my point of view, and I will follow this from the sidelines at this point.



theres no need for the sarcasm vapor2112, if i say ill work something out that means ill work something out.
 
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im not frustrated, im here dealing with this straight on, thats what i do when i can. issues that happen that can be dealt with will be, you dont equal 800 sold, 10 people dont either, as i cant pinpoint whats going on, im sure your aware its impossible to vape each head thats made, but tests are done, there arent any other issue so far with the vivi nova, so we are listening to you but yeah your getting snippy and its not needed but again i understand your having a issue and if we can resolve it we will, with other products there is only so much i can do form here, i relay what is going on then wait to see if they will fix it or find what wrong, then i determine what to do.

if 50 or so people or even more are informing us here they are having issues with some of their heads then rest assured we back it up and stand behind it, the vivi is a major product for vision and has been worked on, lots of money has been spent and it shows, if some people are having heads that are not performing they wont need to worry, gotvapes and vision stand behind it.
it not your point of view, its the tone, as i said i understand if oyur having issues , and im here to hear them and make sure people are happy, its how its said thats the issue, try to remember im human, im here doing this for you all and not my pocket, believe that or not, doesnt matter to me. Regardless i have proven myself time and time again that i care. so verbal attacks even in minor tone are not needed, they dont help resolving the issue at hand.
 
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2.4 and 2.8, same issue. I was abe to run the 2.8 at higher voltage before getting a burnt taste, but no flavor change in the rest of the voltage range.

These things are eating the last of my Boba's and I'm not even getting to enjoy it, I can't bring myself the use part of my last 1/4 bottle tying the LR head.

I just need to sit back and let others help you keep testing these things until, hopefully Vision can get them right.

Apologize again for the tone early, just very frustrating.

Also, hope you understand I'm more frustrated with the manufacturers than you guys...
How can they not find these issues in any degree of testing, everyone here reported them in the first several hours USPS started dropping them off...
 

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thats what i would like to know as well, but right now im seeing them vape a few of them and they say the taste is normal but they are opening other pack and will do random testing all day and we will work this out and as i said previously, customers that bought vivi novas form gotvapes and have a head or heads with issues will be taken cared of.

vapor i totally understand, you wont see me here making excuses and hiding, thats to show you all i respect you all, i dont dissapear when products are released, its because i love this and i respect you all.

Always feel free to express your opinion , just keep in mind that we are family here and by helping us we can help you.
 
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Just reading through this thread, I'm glad I didn't jump in and buy one just yet.

For those of us who have vaped 100% VG juices from AVE, their product (while great) is very thick. This is probably the toughest test you're going to put on any cart - if it can wick this VG it can wick anything. The darker 100% VG juice in particular - is brutal on my Stone tank.

I've given up trying to vape this particular juice line on anything other than the Fluxos. Fluxos, for some reason (maybe it's the design, the size of the cart, etc) seem to handle the thick, dark juices better. They don't last long and need to be rinsed / dry burned after every couple of fills, but they hold up pretty well and are inexpensive to replace.

Just curious.. are all the manufacturers using the same wicking and coil material now across different products - i.e. the Stone, the ViVi Nova, Fluxos, Stardust, and Visions?

I think Bad brought up a point regarding the trimmed wicks, etc.

For example, I've never been able to get a bottom coil device to work with anything more than 20% VG - the juice just never gets to the coils and every other inhale is a dry burn. With the Stone III, I could get 100% VG to wick, but only after pulling off the silicone cap and running a half a tank through it without the cap until the wicks were well saturated - even then it wasn't something I could chain vape on.

Anyway, I work in the software industry. In my job, I'm forever putting together lists of "known issues" with "workarounds".

I'd say what the vaping community could use, outside of this thread (as it really doesn't have much to do with GV and their products - I have no problem with them at all) is some sort of list of what the "best device" for certain vendors e-juice would be. Just from a performance perspective.

We all have our favorite vendors and our favorite juice, but (as an example), you're never going to get Boba's Bounty or Gorilla Juice to work the same on a bottom coil design as you are on a DC carto, etc. (100% VG, dark, thick liquid). A different VG vendor might be different - say Virgin Vapor, Intellicig, etc.

I've said it in other threads as well - I think it's pretty tough (silly even) to expect any cart/atty vendor to test every single type of juice on every single type of device. We can expect that a clear 80% PG juice is going to vape great on whatever you put it on - but with so many different mom & pop vendors out there making juice these days - it's tough to know what mix of base + flavorings are going to work well on any given device (oh and don't even get me started on voltage! that's a whole 'nuther kettle of fish).

If someone who does a lot of reviews wants to put together a google doc somewhere with data they've gathered, I think it would help folks a lot in knowing what to purchase to use with their favorite liquid.

Edit: If nobody else wants to take this on, I'll see if I can put something together after my big move (moving 1000 miles in 2 weeks). Ideally, we'd see a spreadsheet with headings for "Juice Mfg and Flavor" / "PG/VG percent" / "Cart / Tank tested" / "Voltage" / "TH" / "Vapor Production" / "Flavor" / "Overall Performance" (excellent, good, fair, poor) that type of thing..
 
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i think that is a very good idea. especially the ce2's of the world, are very finicky when it comes to juice viscosity, top coils and bottom coils alike due to the small opening to the coils. so far the phoenix xl (1.5ml) seems to be the one thats wicking the best (to the point that i havent gotten one dry hit yet).
i have put it fairly thick juice into it and it just keeps wicking. all other (inclucing phoenix 3ml and ce8) ce2's need dry-pull-help in order for them to give a good vape.
 

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I received a Vivi Nova today from a UK supplier (.........) as did several Vapers from UK Vapers. I read through the GV thread - Torched the wicks, dry burnt and primed the coil and not had a dry hit or wicking issue on a Joye eGo 18650 mod at 3.3v, using Mom and Pop's Praze (which i believe is 36/65 PG/VG). The Flavour is there if slightly muted but am still on me 1st tank - so i'm patient (stubborn) and will wait to pass judgement on it.

I've been Vaping for a couple of years, so have learned to expect some 'tweaking' is necessary - but then again i probably had more hassle trying to find a light in the Analogue days then 'preparing' the Nova :2cool:

Experience has taught me that when it comes to ecigs, whilst 1st impressions do make a difference - they are very rarely the same after a day or week - positive and/or negative. So i'll be playing with this for a few days and see how it goes. And by the time my ones form GV arrive i'm sure that a 'tweak' will be put forward to solve most issues!
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@ folks who are frustrated with being "testers":

Guys, first runs often end up with more problems than beta-testers could discover - it's a matter of statistics. Large batches are more likely to have problems than small ones. Users are inventive, and will find a way outside the scope set by testers.

This is not the vendor problem or the manufacturer problem - it's a mathematics problem. Testing will never be perfect, and QC will never be perfect - because to be perfect you'd have to pay for as many tests as there are units.

Everyone has this problem to some extent, even companies like Apple and Microsoft - it's not for nothing that Windows OS has so many patches that show up after the original release.

@ Chris:

People on this forum are more vocal, true, but this doesn't mean that others are not having problems. It's more likely that they are not reporting as much, precisely because they are not vocal. Meaning that the problem might be under-reported, not over-reported.

That said, for all the problems I've had with this thing, I am *not* upset about it. The reason I shop at GV is because I know Bad and Danno care about their product and their customers. And I've had some really nice products from GV. If there is a problem found, then parts of the system can be fixed and replaced - you don't have to re-purchase the whole thing. If this is some kind of a statistical fluke, well and good, I'll wait a bit and buy some heads - and if those give me grief as well, then and only then will I become frustrated.

Meanwhile, hold onto your butts, everyone (pun intended), and take it easy. Let's see what develops. :)
 

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I am using 100%VG Avejuice in the tank with the 1.8 head and no issues at all.. I haven't tried the other heads yet, but will as soon as this tank in almost empty. I know some of you have stated that you cant use vg in high ratio and it must be the wicks or something that is different in the various heads. I can't think of anything else it can be causing troubles.

Thanks Chris. This tank is a very good idea.
 

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The biggest advice I have is when trying something new always, always have something that you know works ready available loaded with 24mg ready to calm the nerves. We are dealing with nic addicts 'twitch' here trying to get their 'twitch' fix and when something -dam it why 'twitch' wont you give me 'twitch' what I need- doesn't work right things get a little edgy. :)

Hopefully my Nova works haven't tried it yet and have only tried the Phoenix and flux. Flux was garbage right out but tweaked a little and its better but still need a little more tweeking. I have not run across a ce2 that hasn't needed it. The Phoenix has great flavor and getting a little dry on third pull but I will try pulling up the center post on that one.
 
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