That is an incredible and informative review, thank you so much and daniel and i are happy that your happy
NOW you know why we love the Vortex so much
NOW you know why we love the Vortex so much
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Awesome post Intriqken!, thanks for the heads up. Cannot wait. I've run out of cartys and am using the last legs of one, and its horrible. but its either that or a real cig, and i havent had a real cig since april 6, so i'm inhaling this crappy thing til these come.
When Chris and I first began workign with these we were like, "Is this for real?"...and we kept vaping and vaping them, two different beta and consistently FANTASTIC performance. We were excited to get it out to the folks and we pushed and pushed for fastest delivery while at the same time have a sensitivity to let them do their work with our input so the product was released in due time. We spent countless hours with them, HOURS, going over any issues and actually providing input and they'd come back later in the day and show us mock-ups for some issues we'd adress, etc..we were pretty active with them on this. They were very patient with our cajoling, but just to let you know we didn't mean to make ya wait so long : )
What amazed Chris and I is we couldn't hit it dry, hard as we might, chain vaping. We were practically giddy. At one point during the testing process we had them send the next batch of samples directly to me so I could photograph and produce a 'coming soon' video and I would have much fun showing it to Chris on cam and vaping in his face before I expressed his stash of the sample : )
You encapsulated here in your post what Chris and I felt from day one. Appreciate the post and the time it took to give us a full report...
What amazed Chris and I is we couldn't hit it dry, hard as we might, chain vaping. We were practically giddy. At one point during the testing process we had them send the next batch of samples directly to me so I could photograph and produce a 'coming soon' video and I would have much fun showing it to Chris on cam and vaping in his face before I expressed his stash of the sample : )
You encapsulated here in your post what Chris and I felt from day one. Appreciate the post and the time it took to give us a full report...
My first pack so far hasn't been perfect. I pulled one out of the pack, filled and threw it on my eGo pass thru. It had a very light hit, but decent vapor. My juice is a home mix 70/30 PG/VG with LorAnn super strength flavors. The first one out was ok for a couple of hits then it started getting hot and dry. Shortly after it started leaking around the base. I noticed when I screwed it on the tube spun a bit like the CE2 does, but I didn't think anything of it since the CE2 doesn't leak. Well, these don't have the seal like the CE2 and if they don't have enough of whatever "glue" (it's not glue, just a sticky substance that feels and smells like a food grade sealant) they will leak. So as a good tester I started pulling all of them out. Of the ones in the pack I've got 2 with very little glue around the base and the connector shifts around easily, indicating they will leak, 1 with a crack in the tube at the base and 1 with an offset cut tube where it doesn't flush with bottom rim of the connector all the way around, but it looks like it will work ok. I haven't tried either of the two that look like they will work yet.
From an engineering stand point the theory is solid, the application of it looks good (I'm not a fan of the filler type wrap around the coil cup) but the quality control seems iffy. I'm still working on a full review and possibly an initial mod for fun. I like them, I just don't like the varying quality control.
Keep in mind, I'm very picky when I go through a product. Don't take my comments as gospel, Chris knows I can be hard one to get a product through. Even though they work out of the pack, I still mod every CE2-X I pull out, even if it's just the fill ring.
On a good note, I'm loving my ePower! The threads on the tube could use some oil or grease of some kind, and for some reason it randomly flashes as though it's saying the battery is dead when it's clearly not, but it vapes beautifully. I love it!
From an engineering stand point the theory is solid, the application of it looks good (I'm not a fan of the filler type wrap around the coil cup) but the quality control seems iffy. I'm still working on a full review and possibly an initial mod for fun. I like them, I just don't like the varying quality control.
Keep in mind, I'm very picky when I go through a product. Don't take my comments as gospel, Chris knows I can be hard one to get a product through. Even though they work out of the pack, I still mod every CE2-X I pull out, even if it's just the fill ring.
On a good note, I'm loving my ePower! The threads on the tube could use some oil or grease of some kind, and for some reason it randomly flashes as though it's saying the battery is dead when it's clearly not, but it vapes beautifully. I love it!
I pulled out the wicking material that wraps around the carto that feeds the 2 wick points on the sides of the carto. Initially for 2 - 3 hits it was better. I started to get dry hits again. I left it sitting on my desk loaded onto a Riva, standing up overnight. When I tried it this morning I only got dry hits from it.
I'm glad I was skeptical enough to only buy one pack.
I really did want these to work, and really thought they would.
I'm glad I was skeptical enough to only buy one pack.
I really did want these to work, and really thought they would.
I have used my Vortex on my eGo battery and my Mod @ 4.2V. I'm using a 75/25 mix. On the eGo, the Vortex is working good. Good flavor, vapor, and TH. And I am back to back vaping. No dry hits. On my mod, OMG what a difference. I am on my 5th refill and the Vortex is still going strong. I really don't want to put it down. It's like when I first started vaping! So far no issues with leaking or dry hits. And like I have already stated, I am back to back vaping. I don't know what the life time is on the Vortex Carto, but I am half way through my 5th fill and its still working as well as it did from the get-go. I haven't even picked up my eGo Tank since I started using the Vortex. Chris or Dan, what has been your experience regarding the lifetime of one carto? Also, any chance of making the Vortex bigger, say 2mls? And, are you working with your distributer to come up with some kind of stopper so the juice will not leak out if it should accidentally be turned over?
The Vortex is so much better than any Carto, CE2, or Tank System, I have used so far. Thanks Got Vapes!
The Vortex is so much better than any Carto, CE2, or Tank System, I have used so far. Thanks Got Vapes!
Thansk Nav...on the ePower the 'random' flashes are an indication that the voltage has dipped below 3.7v...the PCB switch still regulates it up to 3.7v but its sort of an indicator that you may want to switch batteries soon. The threading is a little rough at first on the cones but after one or two threads it gets very smooth...
The capacity will probably stay where it is for a bit, when and if we have an opportunity for a bigger unit we'll keep everyone informed....glad you are liking it!
How are you guys removing the outer tube for the cleaning of these? Is it like the CE2, just put on a battery and "wiggle" it a bit?
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Hey Danno, it flashes quite often it seems. It flashed after a few hits on a battery fresh off the charger. Although I seem to be seeing them less and less today as opposed to yesterday. Maybe it's just breaking in...lol
Ok, had the day off today so I spent the morning messing around the with Vortex cartos. Two things I've noted for sure.
1. They wick MUCH better without the filler material wrapped around the base of the cup.
2. They have a vacuum issue.
I experimented with taking apart the unit and removing the filler. The wick fills the slots nicely when the cup is reinstalled so there didn't seem to be a lot of leaking, even with my 70/30 juice. I did notice I would get a couple of good hits then it's dry again. If I removed the rubber tip bubbles would pop up from the wick slot and I could see the wick get wetter. So for those getting dry hits, try removing the mouth piece and leaving it out for a bit then try again. They need to work on the tube size and the base. Sealant, food grade or not, isn't an option. Especially if only half of them get enough to seal the tube. I think the cup needs to either be reduced in size or have indents from the top down to the slots to aid juice in getting to the wick better. There just doesn't seem to be enough room for the juice to get between the tube and cup, especially for thicker juices.
Just my observations so far. Hope this helps someone.
1. They wick MUCH better without the filler material wrapped around the base of the cup.
2. They have a vacuum issue.
I experimented with taking apart the unit and removing the filler. The wick fills the slots nicely when the cup is reinstalled so there didn't seem to be a lot of leaking, even with my 70/30 juice. I did notice I would get a couple of good hits then it's dry again. If I removed the rubber tip bubbles would pop up from the wick slot and I could see the wick get wetter. So for those getting dry hits, try removing the mouth piece and leaving it out for a bit then try again. They need to work on the tube size and the base. Sealant, food grade or not, isn't an option. Especially if only half of them get enough to seal the tube. I think the cup needs to either be reduced in size or have indents from the top down to the slots to aid juice in getting to the wick better. There just doesn't seem to be enough room for the juice to get between the tube and cup, especially for thicker juices.
Just my observations so far. Hope this helps someone.
Ok, had the day off today so I spent the morning messing around the with Vortex cartos. Two things I've noted for sure.
1. They wick MUCH better without the filler material wrapped around the base of the cup.
2. They have a vacuum issue.
I experimented with taking apart the unit and removing the filler. The wick fills the slots nicely when the cup is reinstalled so there didn't seem to be a lot of leaking, even with my 70/30 juice. I did notice I would get a couple of good hits then it's dry again. If I removed the rubber tip bubbles would pop up from the wick slot and I could see the wick get wetter. So for those getting dry hits, try removing the mouth piece and leaving it out for a bit then try again. They need to work on the tube size and the base. Sealant, food grade or not, isn't an option. Especially if only half of them get enough to seal the tube. I think the cup needs to either be reduced in size or have indents from the top down to the slots to aid juice in getting to the wick better. There just doesn't seem to be enough room for the juice to get between the tube and cup, especially for thicker juices.
Just my observations so far. Hope this helps someone.
1. They wick MUCH better without the filler material wrapped around the base of the cup.
2. They have a vacuum issue.
I experimented with taking apart the unit and removing the filler. The wick fills the slots nicely when the cup is reinstalled so there didn't seem to be a lot of leaking, even with my 70/30 juice. I did notice I would get a couple of good hits then it's dry again. If I removed the rubber tip bubbles would pop up from the wick slot and I could see the wick get wetter. So for those getting dry hits, try removing the mouth piece and leaving it out for a bit then try again. They need to work on the tube size and the base. Sealant, food grade or not, isn't an option. Especially if only half of them get enough to seal the tube. I think the cup needs to either be reduced in size or have indents from the top down to the slots to aid juice in getting to the wick better. There just doesn't seem to be enough room for the juice to get between the tube and cup, especially for thicker juices.
Just my observations so far. Hope this helps someone.
I figured out why it was flashing. Apparently I take too long of a hit. I didn't realize I was hitting it for 10 seconds causing the cutoff to kick in.
Yes on the ePOWER it has a 10-12 second cut-off but then you can release and it first right back up again. They spec out actually at a 12 second cut-off...
We'll work on that and if we can get that done it may be 2 months down the road....
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