What will become of ECF in the aftermath of a ban?

[muth]

Likely because he has already bought all the equipment he needs, all of the nic he needs,, likely cutting down on flavors to the point no flavor is no problem,, likely has built his stash of parts for repairs,, cotton/rayon,, wire. In the end he only needs vg maybe pg or d-water. This vape hate culture can hurt unprepared vapers &the vape haters but be more of an annoyance to those already prepared.

-prepared myself,, but I am fighting back with my checkbook by avoiding taxable events.

It's nic I'm mostly concerned about although I've cut down over the years. They can't ban all flavors because these same companies manufacture for the food industry. The little Italian shop down the street sells flavors to it's customers who use them in beverages and bakery goods. Flavorah, which is eliquid exclusive, has a plan. No, I'm not worried about flavorings as much and VG/PG is a cinch.

 

[kross8]

I agree. This is what I see in our future here.

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I have no doubt that if the vape hate continues our used gear is going UP in value,, i recently gave away 2 new atomizers & a nearly new mod,, my husband asked if I could sell them,, sure in a couple of years,, but I am not looking for a a profit right now on fellow vapers. Its better for me to give right now,,, I will be rewarded later. -because thats how it goes for me. Then the next day somebody out of the blue gave me some huge 4battery mod,, I'll pif it too someday. But you are right,, that used gear is likely going to be in demand.

 

[muth]

I should get some sleep. Nite all

 

[kross8]

It's nic I'm mostly concerned about although I've cut down over the years. They can't ban all flavors because these same companies manufacture for the food industry. The little Italian shop down the street sells flavors to it's customers who use them in beverages and bakery goods. Flavorah, which is eliquid exclusive, has a plan. No, I'm not worried about flavorings as much and VG/PG is a cinch.

I have too much nic,, wondering what its street value will be someday. Agree on vg/pg

 

[muth]

I have too much nic,, wondering what its street value will be someday. Agree on vg/pg

"I'll give you a nickel tomorrow for a hamburger today."

 

[United States]

The hell they don't. It's coming from Shenzen, China, landing on the LA docks and being scurried into the 100's of shops along the docks where everyone goes to buy their Rolex and Fendi knock offs et al. Didn't you read the Leafly article?

Journey of a tainted vape cartridge: from China’s labs to your lungs

So you know for certain that's what's doing every single incident because of this article?

Yeah I read it a while ago.

 

[Spydro]

I agree. This is what I see in our future here.

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So you're saying the upwards of $50,000 worth of vape gear I no loner use and have stored away was really just an investment that I will soon be able to sell for upwards of $500,000? That boggles the mind when I think about how many times I have "almost" just tossed it all in the garbage.

 

[Tabac man]

Spending $50,000 on vape gear certainly boggles the mind.

 

[DeloresRose]

really... when I joined, any chat about drugs would get your post removed, and any talk about 100mg/ml nic was taboo also... and would earn you an asterisk ******

100 mg/ml was always acceptable since I’ve been here, but that was the highest allowed. But I still get **** for words that are neither profanity nor drug related and I have no clue why they’re censored. I got censored for saying a type of pipe with a water that one would use for marijuana. So I guess I can say marijuana but not .....

And I also guess that the old reason for not allowing talk about marijuana was that it was illegal in some places. But it’s still illegal in a lot of places, so I guess that old rule was BS all along.

 

[bombastinator]

100 mg/ml was always acceptable since I’ve been here, but that was the highest allowed. But I still get **** for words that are neither profanity nor drug related and I have no clue why they’re censored. I got censored for saying a type of pipe with a water that one would use for marijuana. So I guess I can say marijuana but not .....

And I also guess that the old reason for not allowing talk about marijuana was that it was illegal in some places. But it’s still illegal in a lot of places, so I guess that old rule was BS all along.

I always got the impression the purpose of the word censorship was to direct discussion. It’s an e-cigarette fourm. The word restriction remains an effective way to keep things on task. Some words were taken off the list because of the CDC conflation, it remains such. Think of it as BS if you wish. Me I’m comfortable with it.

 

[bombastinator]

That's what happens when you elect communists leaders. Elections have consequences. It's only going to get worse before it gets better. The point is it's been coming and people should have been preparing for it. Like I've said many times it won't effect me BUT it shouldn't be happening anywhere. This is obviously government over reach.

That's what happens when you elect communists leaders. Elections have consequences. It's only going to get worse before it gets better. The point is it's been coming and people should have been preparing for it. Like I've said many times it won't effect me BUT it shouldn't be happening anywhere. This is obviously government over reach.

This word “communists”. I don’t think it means what you think it means.

 

[Rossum]

I know and I can't believe this guy is a Republican

 

[Don29palms]

Rhinos are majestic animals. RINOs are only the part of an animal you see when the animal is walking away with it's tail up.

 

[bombastinator]

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So you're saying the upwards of $50,000 worth of vape gear I no loner use and have stored away was really just an investment that I will soon be able to sell for upwards of $500,000? That boggles the mind when I think about how many times I have "almost" just tossed it all in the garbage.

The whole “horde hardware because they’ll make it illegal and it will vault in price “ argument has been used many many times by firearms manufacturers and has resulted in some people having vaults of hundreds of weapons they hope to sell one day for gigantic sums. It so far has not materialized despite something like 6 rounds of frantic warnings.
The only example of where such a thing happened that I know of was Australia. Black market prices did skyrocket, but demand also dropped drastically. It’s a single data point though.
My personal suspicion is IF a ban goes into effect one might get more for a device if sold, but the actual selling becomes exponentially more difficult to the point that it may no longer be worth doing.

 

[DPLongo22]

The whole “horde hardware because they’ll make it illegal and it will vault in price “ argument has been used many many times by firearms manufacturers and has resulted in some people having vaults of hundreds of weapons they hope to sell one day for gigantic sums. It so far has not materialized despite something like 6 rounds of frantic warnings.
The only example of where such a thing happened that I know of was Australia. Black market prices did skyrocket, but demand also dropped drastically. It’s a single data point though.
My personal suspicion is IF a ban goes into effect one might get more for a device if sold, but the actual selling becomes exponentially more difficult to the point that it may no longer be worth doing.

I've been offered some pretty interesting numbers for a Ruger P85 that I have, but will never go anywhere other than between my safe and bedside holster (every night, like clockwork).

Heckuva "device", that one.

 

[bombastinator]

Rhinos are majestic animals. RINOs are only the part of an animal you see when the animal is walking away with it's tail up.

Just to translate that particular American political dog whistle since this is an international forum. For what it’s worth I had to look it up too.
Republican In Name Only - Wikipedia

The impression I get is it’s a term used by someone who thinks Nixon and Regan were insufficiently right wing to be called “republicans”

 

[Don29palms]

I've been offered some pretty interesting numbers for a Ruger P85 that I have, but will never go anywhere other than between my safe and bedside holster (every night, like clockwork).

Heckuva "device", that one.

I've never shot a P85 but I have a P89 that I understand is quite similar. I'm not a fan of 9mm.

 

[DPLongo22]

The impression I get is it’s a term used by someone who thinks Nixon and Regan were insufficiently right wing to be called “republicans”

By today's standards, possible, in which case Clinton & JFK wouldn't be dems either.

The US has splintered, possibly irreparably.

Article V.

 

[bombastinator]

I've been offered some pretty interesting numbers for a Ruger P85 that I have, but will never go anywhere other than between my safe and bedside holster (every night, like clockwork).

Heckuva "device", that one.

Seems to have had a safety recall warning btw. Looks fixable
Ruger - P85™ Product Safety Warning and Recall Notice

 

[DPLongo22]

I've never shot a P85 but I have a P89 that I understand is quite similar. I'm not a fan of 9mm.

Sorry, mistype (me). Football is a distracting game.

Same (just by the way).