What's under your lip/in your nose right now? - Part 2

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    Good morning. Roth, sorry about the computer problems. I've been thru a few of those myself so can sympathize. You are right about this part of the forum being dead. It is a shadow of what it used to be. When I first started here this thread was hard to keep up with. Now it goes for a day or more with no posts. I think more people than ever are using snus along with vaping but they just don't venture on this side of the tracks.

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    rothenbj

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    I think you're right Hitt. We seem to be a dying breed.

    I looks like the old guy might make it to 13, only two and a half weeks and going strong with his guide person. As long as I take hime out on a lead, it gives him enough support that he gets up and down the steps okay and I can keep him from running into things like picnic tables, trees and the deck. I've had to adjust his eating patterns since his days of eating anything offered are over. Plus I noticed that he tires from standing in front of his bowl. I have him eat that way until he's done, then set aside the bowl till later when he's relaxing. I'll set the bowl in front of him and he eats most of the rest.

    The only thing I can't avoid is his crashing into things in the house, but I can live with it if he can.

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    I'm glad he's still kicking. Our pup tripped the other day in the back yard and has been favoring one of her back legs. She probably tripped in one of the ten holes that she dug in my used to be beautiful yard. I've got some filling in to do this spring.

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    I'm hoping she outgrows the digging thing. I really don't understand what's going on with her leg. She did fine on her walk last night and then this morning when I let her out I heard her yelp and then she came back to the door with one leg in the air. We might have to go ahead and take her in.

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    My wife scheduled an appointment with the vet this morning. My wife called me and said that the vet said that she must have pulled a muscle in her hip and that's why she's been yelping here and there but the reason that she lifts the one leg up sometimes is that she has what I would call a trick knee that slips out of place once in a while. He said that it's genetic and doesn't cause her any pain but she can't walk on it when that happens. He said that he wouldn't recommend surgery on it unless she was over 50% lame with it. He said that the success rate of the surgery is not very good. He also said that he had a dog once with the same problem and it doesn't affect their life expectancy or anything. Just a funny little quirk that she'll live with unless it becomes worse some day.
     

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    Well that's not bad news. I wondered if it might be a pulled muscle. It's a shame about the "trick knee" though. Hopefully it will not get worse.

    I called the vet, in tears and hardly able to communicate, about taking T in next week for his final trip. I wanted to speak to the vet to see if she wanted to handle it or have one of the other vets to determine when. Of course, I immediately fell asleep and missed her call back. I just wish he seemed "sick". He couldn't get settled last night and was running into everything and fell multiple times going out to do his business. This is going to be hard.

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    Roth I'm really sorry about T. Rogue is the first dog that I've had as an adult so haven't had to deal with losing a pet for a long time now. I know it can't be easy to do what you have to do. Hopefully there is someone that can go with you for support.


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    Thanks Kathy and Hitt, this is the hardest situation I've had to deal with as far as my pets' end of life situations. Foremost, he's the best dog I ever had and I've had mostly all good ones. I've never had one as committed to being the perfect companion. Even in his disabled state, he's had only one accident in the house and that was not his fault.

    Secondly, he isn't truly sick. It's easy when they are suffering and you can see them suffering. He's just deteriorating, much like mom. In fact, I think listening to her constant, "I wish I would die" isn't helping me with my decision on T Bear. He had a really restless night Wednesday night and was having terrible balance problems during the day yesterday, plus watching him run into things isn't easy. That's what prompted me to call the vet.

    Today, I took the other two out then checked if he had to go. He had to think about it a bit, then later I heard him going up the two steps out of the living room. I got my shoes on and followed him. He found the water dish and I snapped the leash on him. He was pretty much back to normal and only had minor issues with negotiating his way outside with my lead.

    So today I don't know about next week. I do know I want to talk to the vet and understand how she'd want to handle it. As I've heard before and read in books, you'll know when it's time. Yesterday I though I knew. Today I'm not sure.

    On an even sadder note, I was on FB the other night and a girl that I used to shoot pool with wrote about losing a friend so I started reading through the comments. It turns out he was my friend also, one of my teammates where we lost in the regional championship that would have given me a second trip to Vegas for Nationals.

    The fellow was 40 something. He hung himself. I don't know what was going on other than his wife and family walked out on him in December. Not only did his wife and stepson move out, but his daughter went with them. I know he had a serious drug problem when he was in his twenties, he got shot making a drug buy in Philly, but that had been a long while ago as far as I know. I do know he drank pretty heavy but always appeared to be a happy drinker, never saw him get nasty but you never know behind closed doors. It hasn't been a particularly happy week.
     

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    You are having a pretty rough week. I think you are smart in talking to the vet about T. Maybe he's got some time left after all. I'm sorry about your friend. We had a friend in her 30's several years ago that overdosed on pain meds but it was an accident rather than suicide. She was hooked on prescription meds and had become a junkie. Her then 13 year old daughter found her on the floor in the morning after it was too late.


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    I am so sorry you are dealing with the end of days for your favorite companion. It is never easy to decide when it is time. While he may not act sick, you will know when the weakness is too much for him. A faithful friend and some dignity is all any of us can ask for at the end. I believe it is the same for them. We all know you will make the call when the time has come and he knows it too.

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    Thanks FC. My vet called this evening and I talked over the situation and explained his issues. I won't have to per-schedule, just call them when it's time.

    That's terrible about your friend and particularly her daughter. So young and having to deal with that is tragic.

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    Hey guys and dolls!!!!!
    I had a nice little computer death that nicely coincided with the holidays and an influx of work and today was the first time I've had a chance to get my bookmarks and passwords changed over to iOS/fiddle with things.The old net book finally kicked the bucket and I replaced it with one of the new iPads ( it's pretty impressive so far). I hope you all had great holidays - catching up with everyone's posts should be fun.

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    Soo sorry Roth - I had to put down the best dog I've ever owned or met a few months ago.it was completely unexpected (other than the "she's a 13 and a half year old dog in a breed that does good to make it to 12" realization).All you can do is just focus on the good times and do what you think is right by them.It's such a bad time either way though.sorry man.
     

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