Why Do People Knowingly Buy Clones?

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Darryl Licht

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hmmmm okay... heres a good example of clones.. you can buy a 7/8" open end/box end wrench from Snapon for 34$ or the same daam thing from Craftsman, Husky, etc..... same function same design... for a price of 1/3rd or less.... if it does the same job as the higher priced tool, why spend more if it does the same thing?

this is the basis of clones... it does the same thing as the hi priced item but at a lower price..... and to add, how many of the authentic owners out there own snap on tools...? and if you dont own a set of Snap-on tools, your argument is invalid.. its a principle isnt it? It should apply to all things in your life, not just vape gear...

However ask any mechanic and most will tell you snap-on is better. It's a combination of things: warranty, the tool truck comes to them, no credit check to buy now pay later, name, finish, etc. True the wrenches all do the same thing, but the craftsman isn't a total rip off copy of the snap-on.

Going by your argument then why not get a $25 authentic, as it does the same thing as a $200 authentic.... they both vaporize ejuice! Does a $200 atty really do anything better than a $25 atty?

MY OPINION:
Personally, I think a lot of the "I want a $25 clone of a $200 authentic" is trying to appear to be something your not. I wont own a clone ever! I really don't see the fine line many clone users have drawn between a counterfeit and a clone. E.g.: "It doesn't have a logo so its a clone". I see plenty of good authentic attys in the $30-50 range, and I see no reason to support the counterfeit/clone market!
/MY OPINION
 
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My opinion is that for the most part prices will come down to where there won't be much point in purchasing a clone for a little less. Then cloners will have to resort to cheaper materials and cut corners in manufacturing to the degree that they will obviously be lower quality. Or the cloners will have to make their own mods.Any authentics above an average price range will have to be exceptional because there will be plenty of $30 and $40 state of the art mods along with $20 top ranked attys.
 

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take for example, the new KFv4 at 180$ authentic, and the clones at 40$.... pretty much the same mechanically as far as function ( since they are at a 1:1 design). Quality? to be determined at this point... (keep in mind we are talking about the KFv4)... now here comes the issues, moralities part.... Since the cloners are making them with the insignias on them, do I wait until a cloner makes one without the SM logo or do I go ahead and buy one with the logo ( which doesnt make a difference to me what so ever, its just happens to be on it) so I can experience what everyone has been talking about so avidly about?...Hey its affordable and I know Im getting a non authentic and Im taking the chance that it just might be inferior in quality as a real one... but thats why Im paying 1/5th the price... I expect an somewhat inferior product for the low price.... but what needs to be considered is the classification of a "reproduction" of an original, a clone, and a counterfit

counterfit: to be made cheaply with the intent to be valued as the same as the original
clone: to be made with the intent to function and look like a real one but is known not to be considered an authentic
reproduction: to be made to function as an authentic but not look like the real one due to lack of "artwork"

If an artist paints a picture, only the first picture can be an authentic, if he paints more of the same picture they are reproductions, if a company makes lithographs of the picture, they are clones and if a really good artist creates a painting from the original and sells it as the original, then it qualifies as a counterfit....
 

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MY OPINION:
Personally, I think a lot of the "I want a $25 clone of a $200 authentic" is trying to appear to be something your not. I wont own a clone ever! I really don't see the fine line many clone users have drawn between a counterfeit and a clone. E.g.: "It doesn't have a logo so its a clone". I see plenty of good authentic attys in the $30-50 range, and I see no reason to support the counterfeit/clone market!
/MY OPINION

Good thing because I keep reading from you and others Validating the argument with - There are plenty of Authentics in the $30-$50
Range. You keep skirting the Fact someone is looking for (X) Design without paying the extreme price tag and telling them they can buy (Y) for $30.

I feel good for you that you will Have only what you want and no one will change your mind on that....
Think about it.
 

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Good thing because I keep reading from you and others Validating the argument with - There are plenty of Authentics in the $30-$50
Range. You keep skirting the Fact someone is looking for (X) Design without paying the extreme price tag and telling them they can buy (Y) for $30.

I feel good for you that you will Have only what you want and no one will change your mind on that....
Think about it.

OK...

Does either X or Y design really do anything differently (or better) than an authentic that costs the same as the Y clone in your argument?

Or is it really about appearing to have the latest greatest popular/cool atty?

After all is said and done you still don't have the X product you really wanted and couldn't afford.
 

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OK...

Does either X or Y design really do anything differently (or better) than an authentic that costs the same as the Y clone in your argument?

Or is it really about appearing to have the latest greatest popular/cool atty?

After all is said and done you still don't have the X product you really wanted and couldn't afford.

not really.... since its a 1:1 clone, I do have the X product design/function at a price I can afford :)
 

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not really.... since its a 1:1 clone, I do have the X product design/function at a price I can afford :)

I think you completely missed my point...

Does the $20-30 clone (Y) of the expensive/unaffordable/unjustifiable product (X) really do anything better than a $20-30 authentic atty?
 
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