Why do people who stop vaping go back to normal cigarettes?

[Haktuspit]

You should go to the "blogs" link at the top of the page...I did that last night.....and found a VERY interesting thread about alkaloids that are in cigarette smoke...that seem to have been proven to show that some folks don't get enough from vaping alone...many reasons for this....it's a MUST read for all of us here. I was so intrigued by this that I printed out 5 copies of the 3 part article to give to some folks where I work, one of whom just now is starting to give vaping a try as a means to quit smoking. Go there and read it yourself...and become more informed. I consider it to be crucial information for any of us who have an interest in trying to get others to follow in our footsteps. I am very glad that I happen to fall into the group described in the blog who are easily able to stay away from smoking with only vaping.

My dad was 2 PAD for 40+ years and quit without WTA, I was 1 PAD+ for 14. You can easily do it without them if you want to. Yes I went through withdrawals, and yes I dealt it with. I'm also glad I did, I'm not sure if being addicted to more than just nicotine would have helped me quit the actual cigarettes in any way shape or form.

 

[alex8039]

You should go to the "blogs" link at the top of the page...I did that last night.....and found a VERY interesting thread about alkaloids that are in cigarette smoke...that seem to have been proven to show that some folks don't get enough from vaping alone...many reasons for this....it's a MUST read for all of us here. I was so intrigued by this that I printed out 5 copies of the 3 part article to give to some folks where I work, one of whom just now is starting to give vaping a try as a means to quit smoking. Go there and read it yourself...and become more informed. I consider it to be crucial information for any of us who have an interest in trying to get others to follow in our footsteps. I am very glad that I happen to fall into the group described in the blog who are easily able to stay away from smoking with only vaping.

Me too. I really thought that I wouldn't be able to cope with nicotine alone, and still considering WTA's. Because cigarettes were such an influence on my emotional wellbeing. Luckily tho I'm finding I can entirely avoid cravings or fight the small ones I get

 

[evan le'garde]

My personal opinion is that even though it might well seem like a conscious decision, It's origins are organic. A bit like a civil war where your organic brain wins out over your mind.

 

[meli.]

Psychological and physical addictions aside, I think it's the sheer simplicity of smoking.

No charging batteries, no fiddling with wonky connectors, clearo's, cartomisers. Just a pack and lighter. It's so easy.

Personally, I find the challenge of vaping far more rewarding.

 

[jfango]

I was absolutely amazed at how easy it was for me to quit smoking with vaping....and I started smoking when I was only 10 years old...and that was 45 years ago! In less than one week I liked vaping MORE than I had EVER liked smoking! The folks at work see me coming...and start saying things like, "here comes Joe, and he's high on that thing again!" LOL! I'm not high, except on the euphoria of FINALLY realizing that I've quit and this time for good!

 

[Katya]

Psychological and physical addictions aside, I think it's the sheer simplicity of smoking.

No charging batteries, no fiddling with wonky connectors, clearo's, cartomisers. Just a pack and lighter. It's so easy.

Personally, I find the challenge of vaping far more rewarding.

That's very true. I know a lot of vapers here on ECF who just made vaping their hobby--they buy new toys all the time, they tinker, they mod, collect, improve, trade--they go overboard, yes, but if that helps them cope, more power to them! Whatever works.

 

[evan le'garde]

Psychological and physical addictions aside, I think it's the sheer simplicity of smoking.

No charging batteries, no fiddling with wonky connectors, clearo's, cartomisers. Just a pack and lighter. It's so easy.

Personally, I find the challenge of vaping far more rewarding.

That's will power for you.

 

[heroinesick]

That's very true. I know a lot of vapers here on ECF who just made vaping their hobby--they buy new toys all the time, they tinker, they mod, collect, improve, trade--they go overboard, yes, but if that helps them cope, more power to them! Whatever works.

Both Meli and Katya are right on the money. It really pays off if you're a fiddler, or even better, a stubborn fiddler. I will say though, @Alex8039, I had that same problem.

I'm just curious to know about the non-fiddlers. People who literally want to 'set it and forget it.' Do they continue on? I just ask because I just sent my mom an ego kit, and she desperately needs to quit ( Moderate copd. ) but she isn't very technical at all. I hope she takes takes to it like a duck in water, but I'm not so sure. :T

 

[jfango]

I think a person can make most anything as simple or as complicated as they want. I've found a VW device that works great for me and don't see any reason to get anything else. I've also found a simple tank gadget to put on top of it that also works great and is very easy to use, and I've decided to just use these two things along with some juice and I have no intention or desire or see any need to make any of it more difficult or complex than that. I have 5 of the tank thingies and plan to get a few more so I can switch around with some different flavors and enjoy a little variety, but that's all I need or want and I'm a happy vaper!

 

[disentary]

i think it is mostly social, i m living with my wife and 2 kids. the nearest tobacco smoker is next door, luckly he's not home often. but there a time when we talk and he light his cigarette, the smell did bring back the craving. but after few week, i did try a cigerete but my body just cannot take it anymore. i guess im free now. in my brother case, he the only one vaping in his house while all his housemates smoking. After few months, he quitting vaping. he's using vivi nova, udct, with vmax. good thing is, its all mine now.

 

[jfango]

I think all this is even simpler than smoking ever was...because I no longer need a separate device (a lighter) for ignition, since it's already built right into the device. I don't have to worry about setting anything on fire accidentally like I once did, or burning any holes because of dropping the darn thing. I no longer have to open the car or house windows to air out the fumes from smoking. As long as I have a few bottles of juice on hand, and I've already got so many I must have about a 6 month supply, I don't have to be concerned about running out for smokes because I need more. I also don't have to fret over how bad I smell to others around me any more either. The list is almost endless of things that make this easier for me than smoking ever was.

 

[Katya]

Both Meli and Katya are right on the money. It really pays off if you're a fiddler, or even better, a stubborn fiddler. I will say though, @Alex8039, I had that same problem.

I'm just curious to know about the non-fiddlers. People who literally want to 'set it and forget it.' Do they continue on? I just ask because I just sent my mom an ego kit, and she desperately needs to quit ( Moderate copd. ) but she isn't very technical at all. I hope she takes takes to it like a duck in water, but I'm not so sure. :T

She really needs to want to quit. You can send her five kits--if she feels pressured or guilted out, she probably won't succeed. You don't need to be a hobbyist or even a tinkerer. You need to get a good kit, and an eGo kit is top shelf, and learn how it works. I see so many complaints about everything from new vapers who are too impatient to read the manual, watch some videos, take the time to study the PV they have just acquired. The truth is that every PV works, a little better or worse, but they all work! However, there is nothing intuitive about how to use them. Vaping is not like smoking, so there is a steep learning curve.

If your mom takes the time to learn and understand her kit, she'll do just fine. Most of us here are moms, too. We're not as technically challenged as our children seem to think!

Good luck to both of you!

 

[Ojdo73]

Peronally I'll do the -get new stuff--combine with the old--try out--compare- thing(s) till the cows come home. But I don't think I'll ever get into the rebuilding thing. I belive that just combining diferent new toys in new ways is enough of a hobby to me to keep me "safe". I have a.ton of new stuff coming in soon. Enough to sattesfy my tinkering needs for a while. And when all else fails.I wil fall back on my trusty e-pipe.

 

[jfango]

I've been telling all those who've shown an interest that they have a lot on information to absorb before they start, and point them to this site to find it, and I tell them to be patient. But it is so very true that one must really want to quit for them to have any good chance at success, and I was oh so ready to quit, so that made it very easy for me to get involved and do a lot of reading to learn as much as I could as fast as I could. Some folks just aren't ready for all that at this moment in their lives as they may have many other concerns that are currently occupying their time and efforts. That is all understandable, so I just let them know that when they are ready, that I'm willing to help them out in any way I can, and leave it at that. I do find it almost hard to believe that so many of the smokers that I know have shown such little interest in trying this, even after seeing how easy it was for me to do it. I did finally get a taker with a guy at work who has started, but the rest of them have shown little if any interest.

 

[Topher36]

My mom still calls me to help defrag her computer. Even after short cuts have been placed on the desktop. Sovshe is a little more challenged than some. Sge likes my aga and shows great intrest. Its the liquids I am having a hard time getting right with her. She wants that rwal menthol taste and I have yet to find it.

 

[jenmurray116]

To me, many have hit on the reasons why in this thread - old technology, or something that just isn't enough; smoking was simpler, for me; steep learning curve for some of us, and there are some days where it all just goes horribly wrong. Like someone else said, I will never rebuild or rewick and I still don't know what some things, like an RBA, are. I'm a working Mom with a crazy schedule - I don't have time for a lot of fiddling, nor do I want to do that - sometimes just filling, cleaning, charging, shaking is more than enough!! At the end of the day, though, I think it comes down to wanting it, and having a supportive network around you that looks at the e-cig in a positive way. Not an "oh don't you miss smoking way" but a "that's the best thing since sliced bread" way.

I've tried this before - I tried a mall type last July and it wasn't near enough for a pack and a half a day, 18 year smoker. It never got me off cigs and I gave up. You can see my join date and my quit date are pretty far apart - so much of this was jibberish to me. (much still is). Once I got the right equipment, and the right juice, it was the holy grail - and I think I am much more psychologically addicted then physically - so, this fills my needs in a way that makes me happy. But everyone's experience is different. I can't ever imagine going back to smoking, but I also can't see a day where I wouldn't be vaping either..... THAT would be too hard.

 

[alex8039]

I'm hovering over the checkout button for Aroma ejuice WTA liquid, but I'm hesitant. I just want to not be a slave to smoking, nothing else, I don't care about the buzz or anything else, just losing my addiction.

I'm vaping nonstop and it seems to keep my craving at bay but there's that psychological thing where you want a cigarette which is what made it so hard for me to attempt cold turkey. I gave in today to one analog but it felt more like I was just curious and 'not ready' to trash the ciggs since I'm only on day 3, but that could just be addiction rationalization...

 

[cricque]

I have seen people here at work use an eroll for 3 months ... not even touched a normal one. Then all of the sudden they are smoking again ... and they don't even like the taste ... I don't get it. I never want a normal one anymore. But it's part in the head. If I am not at home, and all my batteries are dead, no more juice, I simply do not vape anymore. Do I want to ? yes. Do i need it like before Not really. it's all in the head

 

[Skree]

I think there are more things in tobacco smoke that are addictive, not just nicotine. When i started something like 2 months ago, with an ego/clearo kit, nothing was doing it for me (i smoked unfiltered hand rolls with strong tobacco heavily for 15 years), i tried 36mg/ml juice and even that left something missing, even when i overvaped massively and made myself vomit with it i was having withdrawal symptoms

now i'm vaping a mixup juice i made which i estimate is about 20mg/ml and a few vendor juices at 18mg/ml and it's doing the trick superbly. Getting an advanced PV (vamo) really helped too. I tried an analogue a few weeks ago and was distinctly unimpressed and i won't go back. Everyone's different i guess but i am a hobbyist and a fiddler, and i'm determined to make this thing work. My family think the idea is that i eventually give up vaping too and the idea is in my head because vaping will be so much easier to quit than smoking was but in actual fact, i used to really enjoy an analogue when i first started but it got to where it was an embuggerance. I'm really enjoying vaping especially with all the flavours

 

[JT1776]

Aside from a lengthy relapse over a year ago I cannot imagine myself picking up analogs again if I have a vaping option available. My job requires me to sometimes have to travel and and work long hours(12 or more hours/day), so this was a bad time for my old 510 3piece piece to break down. it was just too easy for me to go back to analogs, and it took me a couple months to re-commit to vaping, although I know the whole time I wanted to. I was afraid it was going to be a vicious cycle, and an eventual waste of money on hardware. When I did recommit I ended up getting an 808 and it was more reliable for me. I still need to improve on not trying to live with a "just in time" juice supply but I can say that except for 2 times in the last year or so I have been analog free, and each relapse only lasted a day or two while waiting on juice. Analogs have become something I actively try to avoid, but will do to as a last resort for nicotine.

Overall vaping has been a life-saver for me. I had actually quit analogs cold turkey for almost a year then relapsed. Nicotine is a pernicous addiction. But with Vaping I get to enjoy so many of the things I thought I enjoyed about analogs, and I feel pretty good that will keep me from ever relapsing. Especially when my new hardware comes tommorrow.