May not get the same feeling as analogs.
Cost, inventory, or not enough to set them in motion to vape only.
Cost, inventory, or not enough to set them in motion to vape only.
Why do people who stop vaping go back to normal cigarettes?
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True. Also, beginners expect to find similar ashtray cigarette flavour in ecigs. I always try to explain, that instead they should look for new richer and more pleasant flavours, they were deprived of until now.
Personally, I'm in a little bit of a conundrum... I decided I was truly ready to give up regular cigarettes for good but..... I LOVE to smoke. I just love it... But working in the health care field, I knew I couldn't keep up with it anymore.. I see firsthand the effects cigarette smoking has on the body.. Long story short, I was ready to find a better alternative.. I was about 1 PAD smoker and I got my first e cig look alike starter kit a week ago Friday... I figured if I could cut out "analogs" by using a cig look alike, it was a win-win for me.
I used it improperly at first, of course, but the next day I found this forum. I learned that I was inhaling wrong and changed up my technique a bit... Well, low and behold, then next day I get a wicked sore throat. I chalked it up to my poor technique the first day, hoping for the best. Two days later, I'm sick as a dog. Monday, I barely make it through work. This was the last day having my last, real cigarette. Tuesday, I just couldn't do it and missed a day of work.. Wednesday I struggled to make it through the day, and Thursday, I missed work AGAIN, and finally went to the doctor.
I was told that I have sinusitis, bronchitis, and a touch of pneumonia in my right lung. Awesome. I certainly hope that it's a coincidence and not a result of my improper inhaling! I haven't used my e-cig since Wednesday.. Haven't had an analog since before that!
What's sad is that I don't think I've ever been so sick that I haven't been able to smoke.. Ever. This time, something is telling me that I am SERIOUSLY a few puffs away from full blown, admitted to the hospital, pneumonia. So I haven't smoked, vaped, what have you, in an unheard of amount of time (for me) ...
The point of my story is that I have a rare opportunity to walk away from everything... Realistically, I know once I finally get over this, I'll be ready to smoke again.. I waffled yesterday, knowing myself, and ordered my first, real deal kit from MVS and juices from MBV. It sounds silly to get stuff with this opportunity presented to me - I could have been free!! Right now, I have no inclination to smoke anything because I'm SO CLOSE to being a patient, like the ones I see everyday. But I know me, and I did it because I don't want to get in the situation where next week I'm over this funk and nothing to grab but a pack of analogs from the gas station... I don't ever want to smoke a real cigarette again. I haven't had the amazing vaping experiences that I keep reading about on here, and all the different flavors, etc, you all have had.. But I do want that.. I have to say that my first experiences with "vaping" hasn't been amazing at all, but like I said, I don't want to get stuck with nothing but the "stinkies" when I do finally feel better. Even with the crappy time (and taste) I've had with my cigalikes, I can't see myself going back to my analogs. Hopefully. Fingers crossed!
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I used it improperly at first, of course, but the next day I found this forum. I learned that I was inhaling wrong and changed up my technique a bit... Well, low and behold, then next day I get a wicked sore throat. I chalked it up to my poor technique the first day, hoping for the best. Two days later, I'm sick as a dog. Monday, I barely make it through work. This was the last day having my last, real cigarette. Tuesday, I just couldn't do it and missed a day of work.. Wednesday I struggled to make it through the day, and Thursday, I missed work AGAIN, and finally went to the doctor.
I was told that I have sinusitis, bronchitis, and a touch of pneumonia in my right lung. Awesome. I certainly hope that it's a coincidence and not a result of my improper inhaling! I haven't used my e-cig since Wednesday.. Haven't had an analog since before that!
What's sad is that I don't think I've ever been so sick that I haven't been able to smoke.. Ever. This time, something is telling me that I am SERIOUSLY a few puffs away from full blown, admitted to the hospital, pneumonia. So I haven't smoked, vaped, what have you, in an unheard of amount of time (for me) ...
The point of my story is that I have a rare opportunity to walk away from everything... Realistically, I know once I finally get over this, I'll be ready to smoke again.. I waffled yesterday, knowing myself, and ordered my first, real deal kit from MVS and juices from MBV. It sounds silly to get stuff with this opportunity presented to me - I could have been free!! Right now, I have no inclination to smoke anything because I'm SO CLOSE to being a patient, like the ones I see everyday. But I know me, and I did it because I don't want to get in the situation where next week I'm over this funk and nothing to grab but a pack of analogs from the gas station... I don't ever want to smoke a real cigarette again. I haven't had the amazing vaping experiences that I keep reading about on here, and all the different flavors, etc, you all have had.. But I do want that.. I have to say that my first experiences with "vaping" hasn't been amazing at all, but like I said, I don't want to get stuck with nothing but the "stinkies" when I do finally feel better. Even with the crappy time (and taste) I've had with my cigalikes, I can't see myself going back to my analogs. Hopefully. Fingers crossed!
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No offense Alex, but you are coming off a bit snobbish. One day I woke up, grabbed my pack and my light and went out onto the front porch. It was a nice day. I lit up, inhaled, felt the familiar rush of nicotine and said out loud (surprising myself), 'I'm done with this *expletive*. I have no idea what got into me. Around that time I had been trying to work out a little more, watching what I ate a little more and maybe that had something to do with it, but I had just made up my mind that I was done with cigarettes from that day forward. Later that evening I was up searching the Internet (hadn't touched a single analog) and found Zee Cigs and as I watched Shawn talk and use his little 3.7 Joyetech I knew that was the method for me. I immediately ordered a bunch of stuff and that was the same night I signed up for this forum.
I didn't get my stuff for almost a week and that was because I had ordered something they didn't have in stock. I didn't have any sort of harm reduction at all. I didn't smoke a single darn thing. It sucked, I was irritable and I only mention it because of the tone of your post. Mind over matter, and my mind had made itself up. When I got my PVs in, that was it for me and has been since that day. If every one of my PVs blew up at the same time RIGHT NOW and I had no way to get another, I'd be fine and would never go back to smoking no matter what. The thing is, there are a LOT of people that want to try this thing of ours, but don't have the courage or the money or the knowledge. They're scared, their bodies are saying crazy things to them and they may not have the resolve of stronger individuals. That doesn't make them weak but it sure doesn't help them in quitting.
People go back and forth because they're not fully ready to let go yet. If you can't understand that feeling, I don't know what else to say. Some people vape AND smoke at the same time and in time, they'll let go of the smoking. There were many, many, many times I tried to give up smoking but those carcinogens just pulled me back in time after time. I convinced myself I LOVED smoking and everyone else who berated me for it were squares. Pfft, I was the square. Never look down on fellow comrades in war (and this is what quitting smoking is, a war), HELP them, don't question them.
Gotta be sheer coincidence. It's the bugs what did it.
You working in health care, you get exposed to tons of stuff. I know of what speak, I'm about the only one in the family not in health care. I was the smoker and the healthiest of the bunch!
Oof!
Stick around ECF definitely. Seems it can take a bit of fiddling around and experimenting to hit the combination that's right for you. I never would have without all the help and info I got here.
Oh and if you keep at it, you can find that "oh wow" moment. Mine was a Cinnamon Blueberry Crumble liquid. I thought I'd died and gone to heaven.
Gotta be sheer coincidence. It's the bugs what did it.
I sure hope so.. I really, really do lol ;-)
Oh and if you keep at it, you can find that "oh wow" moment. Mine was a Cinnamon Blueberry Crumble liquid. I thought I'd died and gone to heaven.
Oh my gosh, that sounds AMAZING. I love blueberry crumb/cinnamon strudel crumb stuff and that would be interesting in a vape flavor!
Thank you for the words of encouragement... I really do enjoy the comradery here.
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I actually like smoking, to me there is something soothing in the smoke. I was in a car accident in November and my PV just couldn't kill that stress fiend. I went through a pack and then swapped back to my PV. Its a hurdle, especially for people who like the taste of D'jarum Black's, Kreteks Clove Cigarettes... there just is nothing synthetic that captures that flavor.
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I will occasionally smoke an analog if I am around someone who smokes, and I switched to vaping over a year ago. Not sure what it is that causes me to crave one when I enjoy my PV much more. But I just attribute it to the fact that I was a smoker for 21+ years, my system still has some kind of tie to it. It's one of the toughest addictions to overcome.
Yep! I, too, enjoyed smoking. I just didn't like what it was doing to me after 35+ years. I still crave 'em, too.
I've read every one of the 106 previous posts in this thread and it's clear to me that everyone has their own individual experience with cigarettes and with vaping. I've read a couple of posts where the author indicates that will power is a factor in quiting analogs. Horsefeathers!
People have their own emotional reasons for wanting to smoke and, simultaneously, wanting not to smoke. Those of us who can still remember can recall those first few days or weeks of smoking when it literally made us nauseous after just one or two cigarettes. This was before our bodies gave up the fight and accepted the new reality of existing on inhaled smoke, of course. Our emotional desire to smoke at that time outweighed both our reasons to not smoke and our body's physical revulsion to smoke. This is the so-called will power that peole talk about.
Years later the tables have turned. Now people say they want to quit smoking, but they don't have the will power to do it. They still have their emotional reasons to smoke and to not smoke. The balance between these motivations is not as one-sided as it was in those first few days, though. When their emotional reasons for not smoking sufficiently outweigh the emotional (and physical) reasons to smoke, they'll quit. The idea of "will power" as some sort of character trait is nonsense.
I have to admit that I'm typing this with a cigarette in my hand. Like a lot of those posting here, talking about cigarettes still triggers my urge to smoke. Nonetheless, vaping has enabled me to cut back from 2-3 PAD to about one PAD for the past two weeks. I consider that a major accomplishment.
I know that if I adopt an "all or nothing" attitude about cigarettes I'll go back to smoking. For now, I'm just transitioning until my reasons for vaping outweigh my reasons for smoking.
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People have their own emotional reasons for wanting to smoke and, simultaneously, wanting not to smoke. Those of us who can still remember can recall those first few days or weeks of smoking when it literally made us nauseous after just one or two cigarettes. This was before our bodies gave up the fight and accepted the new reality of existing on inhaled smoke, of course. Our emotional desire to smoke at that time outweighed both our reasons to not smoke and our body's physical revulsion to smoke. This is the so-called will power that peole talk about.
Years later the tables have turned. Now people say they want to quit smoking, but they don't have the will power to do it. They still have their emotional reasons to smoke and to not smoke. The balance between these motivations is not as one-sided as it was in those first few days, though. When their emotional reasons for not smoking sufficiently outweigh the emotional (and physical) reasons to smoke, they'll quit. The idea of "will power" as some sort of character trait is nonsense.
I have to admit that I'm typing this with a cigarette in my hand. Like a lot of those posting here, talking about cigarettes still triggers my urge to smoke. Nonetheless, vaping has enabled me to cut back from 2-3 PAD to about one PAD for the past two weeks. I consider that a major accomplishment.
I know that if I adopt an "all or nothing" attitude about cigarettes I'll go back to smoking. For now, I'm just transitioning until my reasons for vaping outweigh my reasons for smoking.
Doc
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My GF tried the cigalikes, and didn't like it. I told her about the latest technology, but she has absolutely NO interest. She thinks I'm crazy for vaping.
I've had a couple dozen vape converts, about half of them go back to smoking.
You have to WANT to get rid of the cigs. That's it. Wanting to save money, or smell better, or breath better, or live longer........ won't do the trick.
Retired1: Give it a couple months. Then light one up of you favorite brand of cigarette. Do it. It will be enshrined in your memory as the foulest taste you have ever experienced. You will never crave another. You need to get a couple months under your belt before you do it though. Give your brain to reprogram your sense of taste.
You have to WANT to get rid of the cigs. That's it. Wanting to save money, or smell better, or breath better, or live longer........ won't do the trick.
Retired1: Give it a couple months. Then light one up of you favorite brand of cigarette. Do it. It will be enshrined in your memory as the foulest taste you have ever experienced. You will never crave another. You need to get a couple months under your belt before you do it though. Give your brain to reprogram your sense of taste.
The best thing you can do is succeed. I've got one guy 3 months off the death sticks now, but it took him a year of watching me vape to convince him that it worked.
I haven't shared this story before, and I'll go into the longer version some other time, but in 1989 when I was 19 and my Mom was 56, she had a massive heart attack that killed off 2/3's of her heart. Both my parents were heavy smokers (I often had to run to the drugstore with one of my siblings for "Silva Thins" for them!!) Sometime in the early 80's my Dad did Smoke-enders and it worked - he never smoked again, but Mom still did. Because of the damage, her heart could not work well enough and she was constantly going back to the hospital for weeks at a time in congestive heart failure. In July, 1990 we were told she needed a heart transplant - again, this was 1990 - this was not as common as it is now and it was terrifying. Again, long story, details for another time, but on November 16, 1990 she was being discharged, again, from a hospital in Newark, NJ when we got the call - a 16 year old boy had been killed 2 miles away and she was getting his heart. To this day I still can't say that or write that without choking up - how a parent makes such a brave decision at such a tragic time is beyond me. She was the 11th heart transplant done in NJ and the 4th one done that week. Now note - it was 5 years AFTER seeing her go through all that I went from a random social smoker to a full time smoker, soon a pack and a half a day smoker. If I could go back and talk to my 25 year old self....
But, my point is that maybe 8 or 9 years after the transplant, she told me this: One day, she was walking upstairs with the laundry basket from the basement and thought to herself "I'll just have a cigarette and then bring the basket up to the 2nd floor". It took her a minute to remember "oh wait - I haven't smoked in 9 or 10 years!" This was a woman who went through the worst you can imagine and still had that thought. I think a part of it becomes so ingrained in you - and it's not really the nicotine that you want, not when it's been so long - in this case, she wanted her "reason" to stop what she was doing and rest. For a lot of people, like me, like my Mom - that cig was permission to slow down and sit for 5 minutes. If you did that without the cig, it doesn't feel right - like you are doing something wrong/lazy, etc. A lot of smokers and ex-smokers are riddled with anxieties and fears and failure is one of those fears. I know I've been my own worst enemy with quit attempts in the past. There is just such a psychological pull towards smoking - it's easy to let that get the best of you.
My Mom passed away in 2002, not due to her heart but it was still a smoking related death. Vaping has been a miracle for me and 5 week present to myself was a small charm that says "I can"....because I can and I am.
If I could go back and talk to my 25 year old self....But, my point is that maybe 8 or 9 years after the transplant, she told me this: One day, she was walking upstairs with the laundry basket from the basement and thought to herself "I'll just have a cigarette and then bring the basket up to the 2nd floor". It took her a minute to remember "oh wait - I haven't smoked in 9 or 10 years!" This was a woman who went through the worst you can imagine and still had that thought. I think a part of it becomes so ingrained in you - and it's not really the nicotine that you want, not when it's been so long - in this case, she wanted her "reason" to stop what she was doing and rest. For a lot of people, like me, like my Mom - that cig was permission to slow down and sit for 5 minutes. If you did that without the cig, it doesn't feel right - like you are doing something wrong/lazy, etc. A lot of smokers and ex-smokers are riddled with anxieties and fears and failure is one of those fears. I know I've been my own worst enemy with quit attempts in the past. There is just such a psychological pull towards smoking - it's easy to let that get the best of you.
My Mom passed away in 2002, not due to her heart but it was still a smoking related death.
Vaping has been a miracle for me and 5 week present to myself was a small charm that says "I can"....because I can and I am.
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I sure hope so.. I really, really do lol ;-)
Oh my gosh, that sounds AMAZING. I love blueberry crumb/cinnamon strudel crumb stuff and that would be interesting in a vape flavor!
Thank you for the words of encouragement... I really do enjoy the comradery here.
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The CBC flavor I have is FlavorZ by Joe. You can find vapor shops and sites carrying him or order direct. He does some awesome flavors. Only "problem" is they're like really rich desserts, really great but you might not want to have them all the time. But first time I had that one, it was almost a religious experience.
I haven't shared this story before, and I'll go into the longer version some other time, but in 1989 when I was 19 and my Mom was 56, she had a massive heart attack that killed off 2/3's of her heart. Both my parents were heavy smokers (I often had to run to the drugstore with one of my siblings for "Silva Thins" for them!!) Sometime in the early 80's my Dad did Smoke-enders and it worked - he never smoked again, but Mom still did. Because of the damage, her heart could not work well enough and she was constantly going back to the hospital for weeks at a time in congestive heart failure. In July, 1990 we were told she needed a heart transplant - again, this was 1990 - this was not as common as it is now and it was terrifying. Again, long story, details for another time, but on November 16, 1990 she was being discharged, again, from a hospital in Newark, NJ when we got the call - a 16 year old boy had been killed 2 miles away and she was getting his heart. To this day I still can't say that or write that without choking up - how a parent makes such a brave decision at such a tragic time is beyond me. She was the 11th heart transplant done in NJ and the 4th one done that week. Now note - it was 5 years AFTER seeing her go through all that I went from a random social smoker to a full time smoker, soon a pack and a half a day smoker.
But, my point is that maybe 8 or 9 years after the transplant, she told me this: One day, she was walking upstairs with the laundry basket from the basement and thought to herself "I'll just have a cigarette and then bring the basket up to the 2nd floor". It took her a minute to remember "oh wait - I haven't smoked in 9 or 10 years!" This was a woman who went through the worst you can imagine and still had that thought. I think a part of it becomes so ingrained in you - and it's not really the nicotine that you want, not when it's been so long - in this case, she wanted her "reason" to stop what she was doing and rest. For a lot of people, like me, like my Mom - that cig was permission to slow down and sit for 5 minutes. If you did that without the cig, it doesn't feel right - like you are doing something wrong/lazy, etc. A lot of smokers and ex-smokers are riddled with anxieties and fears and failure is one of those fears. I know I've been my own worst enemy with quit attempts in the past. There is just such a psychological pull towards smoking - it's easy to let that get the best of you.
My Mom passed away in 2002, not due to her heart but it was still a smoking related death.
Thank you for sharing this story.. I can't imagine how hard it must have been. You're an inspiration.
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The CBC flavor I have is FlavorZ by Joe. You can find vapor shops and sites carrying him or order direct. He does some awesome flavors. Only "problem" is they're like really rich desserts, really great but you might not want to have them all the time. But first time I had that one, it was almost a religious experience.
Awesome! I'll have to look him up, for sure. I haven't yet experienced anything other than a "menthol" flavor, which I wasn't fond of. I kept seeing good things about MBV so I ordered a few juices from them.. I'll have to give Joe a whirl! Thank you!
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Awesome! I'll have to look him up, for sure. I haven't yet experienced anything other than a "menthol" flavor, which I wasn't fond of. I kept seeing good things about MBV so I ordered a few juices from them.. I'll have to give Joe a whirl! Thank you!
Lots of great flavors out there. I haven't even scratched the surface myself.
I always suggest looking for vendors who do "sample packs". You'll want to try different ones, find the ones you really like. I think it makes a big difference finding the flavors you really enjoy. It "pulls" you toward the vaping and away from the cigs. Heh, my cigs never gave me blueberries.
MBV... Mount Baker Vapor? I haven't bought from them myself but I see folks here talking about them often.
Oh boy. Another site to bookmark.
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