Why do we still call our vapes e-cigarettes:
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Please stop doing that....Do you have any idea how annoying it is?!?
When i come to ECF all i see is vapers calling their vapour devices by their brand names. When i talk to outsiders, people who don't vape, i refer to my device by it's brand name and go through all the component parts, how it works etc.
When i'm in a thread such as this one all i see is vapers talking about how they think people refer to their devices. In any other thread at any other time you will refer to you devices by their brand names. Then for no apparent reason, you lose your minds and start talking about your devices as e-cigs, complain about it, then go off and start talking in another thread about you devices by their brand names again,. As interesting as it it to watch it is also a little disturbing.
The fact of the matter is it is the public eye that perceives our devices as "e-cigs" and so that's how outsiders refer to them. And the sole reason for this is to relate real tobacco cigarettes to the electric alternative to help smokers make the transition. Wikipedia isn't going to change it's stance on the definition because, well, check out the name of the article !. If people aren't happy with sites like Wikipedia referring to mods etc as e cigs then don't go to a Wiki page called "e cigarette" because all you'll find is information about, that's right, e cigs !. A new member entered the new members forum a week or so ago talking in length about the "lede" of the wikipedia article on e-cigs saying how much of a distaster it is. Well it may well be perceived that way by seasoned vapers but helps in a way which seasoned vapers can no longer relate to. The more the industry is labelled e-cigs the easier it is for smokers to make the transition, which is a subliminal fact most seasoned vapers seem to forget or deliberately ignore. I know what it's like to forget stuff but this problem vapers seem to be having about this issue is kinda dumb. You know you call your device by it's brand name, you know you do, so what is this thread actually about ?. You're all busy saying one thing when the reality is something completely different but none of you seem to be aware of it, and i'm __ucked if i know why !. Go to a random thread in ECF and talk about your devices. Is their any time you refer to your device as an e-cig ?. So again i ask you
WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU ALL TALKING ABOUT !.
Ok, my goal was pretty simple really. If you read my original post and even a few clarifications after you will see that I agree that calling our vapes e-cigarettes to the general public is important but I was asking for help to explain it in words I could not come up with at the time. I just wanted to give my husband (a dual user) a solid answer that he could wrap his mind about. Of course we refer to our vapes here as various things (brand, cute name, funny name w/e), but that was not what I was seeking. I also enjoy reading the different posts here even if they were not an answer to what I asked. That is the fun of a forum. I never wanted to upset anybody over it and now that I have my answer I could care less if the thread is closed. Enjoy your day.
I think you are misunderstanding the reason for my thread. Please do not paint me as some idiot that cannot grasp the concept.
I call it a vape usually, sometimes e-cig, or electronic cigarette.
Depends how I'm feeling that day.
It's all semantics who cares.
Depends how I'm feeling that day.
It's all semantics who cares.
To paraphrase Will...'What's in a name, would a fart smell any sweeter if we called them a rose?'
I see members here in ECF regularly, not just today but every once in a while, talking in a thread dedicated to the fundamental discussion about generic terms for the electrical devices which vapourise a nicotine solution.
In the tens of thousands of threads that have been written and read by members in EFC the contents are always about brand names, everyone, i mean absolutely everyone, refer to their devices by their brand names. Then a thread about the generic terms comes up and "everyone", yes "everyone" says they refer to their devices by these other "generic" terms !.
They don't though !.
I'll refer you to the tens of thousands of thread i just mentioned. Sorry, i'm sincerely sorry if you took this personally, but it simply wasn't directed at one particular person, meaning you, but everyone who is busy saying one thing in this kind of thread, and then goes off to another and refers to their device by it's brand name, completely contradicting themselves, and i don't understand why they do that.
In the tens of thousands of threads that have been written and read by members in EFC the contents are always about brand names, everyone, i mean absolutely everyone, refer to their devices by their brand names. Then a thread about the generic terms comes up and "everyone", yes "everyone" says they refer to their devices by these other "generic" terms !.
They don't though !.
I'll refer you to the tens of thousands of thread i just mentioned. Sorry, i'm sincerely sorry if you took this personally, but it simply wasn't directed at one particular person, meaning you, but everyone who is busy saying one thing in this kind of thread, and then goes off to another and refers to their device by it's brand name, completely contradicting themselves, and i don't understand why they do that.
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So this green text, you do that crap all the time or just in this thread??
I haven't decided yet. I've only started doing it recenly because i like the colour.
Written with one hand while the others busy vaping !.
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In a legal sense it makes a big difference what the "official" name of e-cigs is because then you can find loop holes in the legislation, but on a day-to-day basis I could care less what my device is called.
I would say because it depends on the situation. Right now in front of me I have five different vapes in front of me. If I were to post on a thread that was for Innokin I would say I love my Dirupter or MVP20. If I were on an Aspire thread I would comment calling my Aspire CFSubOHm by name so the others reading knew which Aspire product I was talking about and so on with Sigelei and SMOK. Now if I was in general I would say I have five vapes, or an ejuice thread I would still use the term vape unless I was explaining the differences a mod can make with juice taste. If I am talking with a person that has no knowledge of vaping I would call it my e-cig. I actually hardly ever refer to my device by its brand name unless I need to. And of course I took it a bit personally (but not bothered by it
)because you stated that these threads (talking about my thread) wouldn't happen if I (being the op) had a clue, when in fact the original question had nothing to do with what we call our vapes in the first place. We were really just having a friendly discussion so no need for drama here. Can we please move on or drop this all together?
For me, if an outsider is interested in the device i am using my first response would be to say exactly what it is by name, nothing generic about it !. I'll tell them what it's called and where one can be bought. The vagueness of the generic term doesn't really help to explain where they could buy one, what would be the best to buy, how much it would cost, whether that particluar device works or not, which ones don't. Describing it by using a generic term kind of kills the converstaion right there and then. Why would they be asking in the first place ?. It's obvious they are intested, if they know me then they know it works for me so why wouldn't i tell them just how good of a device it actually is rather that boring them to death by using generic terms. I would be very surprised if any random person didn't know what the device was and what it did, and wouldn't need to be told either. I enjoy pointing people in the right direction, making referalls to a specific place where they could pick up a similar device. All the hundereds of different brands of hardware which is available on the market is really interesting and colourful to talk about especially to people that know nothing about it but are interested to learn more. The generic terms are bland , boring, and to be quite frank can sound quite insulting when you might assume they have absolutely no clue what it is when they more than likely do. So i have to assume if someone asks then they are really asking about the brand and where i got it etc. It's a much more interesting conversation.
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Back in black I hit the sack
been too long, glad to be back.
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Back in black I hit the sack
been too long, glad to be back.
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I couldn't read the green text. I consider vaping electronic smoking. It looks like smoking, has nicotine and produces the same effect for me as smoking does. Non vapers don't have a clue what PVs or mods are; even vapers I know who only use cigalikes don't know what those are. I consider it a safer form of smoking, which delivers nicotine via heating a nicotine solution with electrical current, rather than burning tobacco to get nicotine...
You are correct when you are talking about how we refer to them in personal situations, but my query was more about the continued usage of the term e-cigarette in things like this forum ECF (Electronic Cigarette Forum) and other media/online sites. There is a very important reason to continue with it I just could not find the words to express it to my husband. The article on it linked on page one has an excellent explanation for this. It is always fun to see what people think but it wasn't the reason for my post.
Just tell him you are the real boss of the family and he will agree with you. It is what my wife does to me.
Since its a nicotine delivery method, would you consider a Nicoderm patch to be an adhesive cigarette?
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No, I wouldn't hold one like a cigarette and puff on it, unless I rolled one up and lit it on fire...
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