Why do we still call our vapes e-cigarettes:

[amoret]

I've had the misfortune lately of seeing and talking to a lot of health care providers, from nursing assistants to specialist MDs. In doing so we almost always go through my medical history to some extent, and I get to tell them that after over forty years I am now an ex-smoker. And then I always try to explain what finally worked.

to explain i always have to start with the term electronic cigarette, because that's the term that they know. When I get the chance to explain in more detail (I just got to explain to the director of home health for two counties, and she was interested) then I switch right away to the correct terminology. If they are upset by nicotine use I go into my nicotine-is-not-the-harmful-part-of-smoking spiel. In this case since I DIY my liquids I got the chance to show her what goes into the liquids, and how I can safely mix them at home, even with bad hands.

Usually I don't get that much time, but I do get to tell them how and why vaping works, and convince them (usually) that it is a good thing. But anyhow, that's how and why I start with the term e-cigarette. And also how and why I can then explain more, including the correct terms - I prefer PVs. In here, where everyone knows at least the basics, I can discuss my innokin addiction.

 

[Canadian_Vaper]

Generally I call it my Vape, but sometimes a ecig or mod, used to call my iPow2 a vape pen...

Since the media mostly uses the word "Electronic Cigarette" I think non smokers that are against it are mostly against it because it has the word cigarette in it, they don't differentiate the two, trust me when I say almost all people that never smoked in their life aren't going to go looking for information about it so what they hear is what they are going to consider it to be and that is a cigarette...

If they were never called electronic cigarettes and called NRV's nicotine replacement vaporizers or something of the sorts, I think the general public would view them differently.

A few weeks back I had an old friend (currently a two pack a day smoker) rag on me because I was vaping saying you'll be dead in a year, meanwhile he was coughing up all sorts of gross stuff half the day and could barely keep up with me working having to take breather breaks (chainsmoke)...

 

[WattWick]

I generally refer to it as 'nicotine'. As in:

"What's that?"
"Nicotine"

*Conversation translated for an international audience.

 

[supermarket]

I apologize in advance because I know I have seen the explanation here, but I cannot find it now that I am having a discussion about it. My husband wants to know why I am not upset by this. I told him that I see the term e-cigarette as a bridge to help those still smoking feel that they are going at the quit thing slowly. I also told him that many people use the terms vape, PV, or one of my favs to chuckle about P.E.N.I.S (I know, but it is fun to act 7 now and again). So my question is in hopes to find a better explanation as to why we do not change the use of the term e-cigarette. Just as a side note, he is a dual user but is not a member here. Apparently this is the first time he noticed the name of the forum I spend so much time on. Help me out good folks.

It doesn't bother me, because it is just a name. Names are that, words we assign to a noun to identify and help others identify said noun. When e-cigs first came out around 2007/2008ish, that is what they were all called, as they were mostly all those pen type vapes that look just like the name describes "electronic cigarette".

I agree that the term is now outdated, but it doesn't bother me in the least. I'll keep using e-cig until the VAST majority of people use a different term, and then I'll just use that term, for ease. No where during this process will the quality of vape be affected

 

[aceswired]

It's not just a name, of course. The term groups it with cigarette smoking, one of the most reviled habits out there. It does us no favors in terms of broader acceptance.

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[stevegmu]

I really don't get personal vaporizer. Is there such a thing as a public vaporizer?

 

[Completely Average]

I really don't get personal vaporizer. Is there such a thing as a public vaporizer?

That looks pretty public to me.

 

[stevegmu]

That looks pretty public to me.

It's something all right...

 

[HazyShades]

It's something all right...

Looks like a smoke filled bar to me. Momma told me not to come and all that.
I call it an electronic cigarette when I have to explain the concept to a "civilian"
but generally I refer to it as "my vape".
But I do sometimes say "Hand me my ciggie" or "My pipe".
I agree with Aceswired (above) that "electronic cigarette" has a negative association
but it is what it is and the negativity is relative and subjective.

Regards,
Hazy

 

[caramel]

I really don't get personal vaporizer. Is there such a thing as a public vaporizer?

Yes it's called "public sauna".

 

[Robino1]

Looks like a smoke filled bar to me. Momma told me not to come and all that.
I call it an electronic cigarette when I have to explain the concept to a "civilian"
but generally I refer to it as "my vape".
But I do sometimes say "Hand me my ciggie" or "My pipe".
I agree with Aceswired (above) that "electronic cigarette" has a negative association
but it is what it is and the negativity is relative and subjective.

Regards,
Hazy

Long time no see

Slumming? ROFL

 

[HazyShades]

Long time no see

Slumming? ROFL

Hey, Robin!
Just passing through...I was staying out of your hair for a while.
Was looking 'round for some DIY info and decided to hang out.
I *knew* you'd pop up, really. LOL. ("She's watching me..." paranoia strikes deep

BTW, I *love* your new avi. Gonna have to send you more flowers...
Stay good.
Hazy

 

[Robino1]

Hey, Robin!
Just passing through...I was staying out of your hair for a while.
Was looking 'round for some DIY info and decided to hang out a while.
I *knew* you'd pop up, really. LOL. ("She's watching me..." paranoia strikes deep

BTW, I *love* your new avi. Gonna have to send you more flowers...
Stay good.
Hazy

You just happened to post on a thread that I am watching. Only watching because I actually participated in it. Don't get all paranoid on me! Bwahahahaha!

Thanks for the compliment.

Stay well and don't be such a stranger.... *blows kisses*

 

[HazyShades]

You just happened to post on a thread that I am watching. Only watching because I actually participated in it. Don't get all paranoid on me! Bwahahahaha!

Thanks for the compliment.

Stay well and don't be such a stranger.... *blows kisses*

Kisses! Oh my...
I won't be and I know you're not. Still, I knew we'd exchange sweet whispers.
Guess it's that psychic thing.

Feel the cool breeze? Kisses back at ya ;-)
Hazy

 

[supermarket]

It's not just a name, of course. The term groups it with cigarette smoking, one of the most reviled habits out there. It does us no favors in terms of broader acceptance.

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That's just YOUR opinion.

Video games aren't Videos.....but they have the word in the title. Why? Because videos are watched on TV screens, where you play video games.


It IS just a name. Nobody hears the word e-cigarette, and thinks it is a regular cigarette. People know the difference between e-cigs and cigs.....it is just that e-cigs are new, and many people aren't aware of the lessened health risks of e-cigs compared to cigs.


Also, it isn't really the *name* giving e-cigs a bad name. It is the fact that 1) the big tobacco industry is shaken up by them, 2) they are new. people always fear new things or things they don't understand. 3) they are untested, and since they are new and untested, people are naturally cautious, 4) you are STILL putting something to your mouth, something meant to REPLACE cigarettes. Vapor looks similar to smoke. E-cigs, to a non-smoker and non-vaper, appear VERY, VERY similar to cigarettes.


But go ahead. Keep focusing on your battle against the name. Not only are you *not* going to manage to somehow get hundreds of thousands of people to out of the blue stop calling them e-cigs....but even if you did, it wouldn't matter....because the name isn't a factor in any of our battles as vapers.

 

[hurricanegirl100]

Y'know, come to think of it, I never call it my "e-cigarette" anymore! When somebody asks me what the heck I'm sucking on lol, I tell them!

It's a Coofire 4, it's an IPV mini, this fabulous thing is an Infinite Stingray X! It either shuts them up and makes them go away (Good!) or they start asking me stuff like where'd you get it? (even better!)

 

[aceswired]

That's just YOUR opinion.

Of course it is. Is there some particular reason you'd feel the need to point that out? Are we not all expressing our opinions on this subject? Are you under the impression that my take is an opinion, but yours is something more?

Clarify this for me. Why the need to so dramatically announce that my opinion is ... an opinion?

Video games aren't Videos.....but they have the word in the title. Why? Because videos are watched on TV screens, where you play video games.

Okay. Perhaps if I wished for video games to get a broader cultural acceptance, and if I believed the term "video" had a strongly negative connotation with much of the population, I would opine that I disliked the term.

However, neither of those cases are true, and so I don't think it serves any purpose as an analogy.

It IS just a name. Nobody hears the word e-cigarette, and thinks it is a regular cigarette.

I'm fairly certain I never said otherwise. What I did say was that much of the population views cigarette smoking at a vile habit, and using the term in the name prejudices people against the idea.

But go ahead. Keep focusing on your battle against the name.

What battle? What in the world are you talking about? I posted a two-sentence reply in a thread ... about the name. I didn't start the thread. I didn't promote the thread. I didn't attack those who like the name. What I did was posted two measly sentences in a thread started for discussion of the term.

Seriously. You need to consider proportionality here. This is so far off the mark that I'm half suspicious it's just a troll. I'm not sure how anyone could fly off the handle to such a degree based on a two-sentence response in a thread started to discuss this very topic.

Not only are you *not* going to manage to somehow get hundreds of thousands of people to out of the blue stop calling them e-cigs

Never said I would. Never said I'd try. Just said I don't like the term.

Wow.

....but even if you did, it wouldn't matter....because the name isn't a factor in any of our battles as vapers.

To copy and paste your first sentence here:

That's just YOUR opinion.

Is there some reason you think it's okay to state yours, but it's not okay for me to state mine? Or is a thread about the term e-cig not an okay place to post opinions about the term e-cig?

Like I said before ... wow. Just wow.

 

[supermarket]

Of course it is. Is there some particular reason you'd feel the need to point that out? Are we not all expressing our opinions on this subject? Are you under the impression that my take is an opinion, but yours is something more?

Clarify this for me. Why the need to so dramatically announce that my opinion is ... an opinion?


Okay. Perhaps if I wished for video games to get a broader cultural acceptance, and if I believed the term "video" had a strongly negative connotation with much of the population, I would opine that I disliked the term.

However, neither of those cases are true, and so I don't think it serves any purpose as an analogy.



I'm fairly certain I never said otherwise. What I did say was that much of the population views cigarette smoking at a vile habit, and using the term in the name prejudices people against the idea.


What battle? What in the world are you talking about? I posted a two-sentence reply in a thread ... about the name. I didn't start the thread. I didn't promote the thread. I didn't attack those who like the name. What I did was posted two measly sentences in a thread started for discussion of the term.

Seriously. You need to consider proportionality here. This is so far off the mark that I'm half suspicious it's just a troll. I'm not sure how anyone could fly off the handle to such a degree based on a two-sentence response in a thread started to discuss this very topic.


Never said I would. Never said I'd try. Just said I don't like the term.

Wow.


To copy and paste your first sentence here:

That's just YOUR opinion.

Is there some reason you think it's okay to state yours, but it's not okay for me to state mine? Or is a thread about the term e-cig not an okay place to post opinions about the term e-cig?

Like I said before ... wow. Just wow.

I originally DID think you were the OP, until I just read your reply and got my .... handed to me, lol.

Sorry man, really wasn't trying to upset anyone here, I think perhaps if you heard me say my post in person, instead of on a message board, it wouldn't have bothered you, I really didn't mean to come off negatively.

Anyway, you posted literally right below my last post in this thread, and if you read my post, you commented on *exactly* what I had said.

I said that "e-cig" is JUST a name. You said it wasn't. So I was replying to what I thought was your reply, but yes, I also thought you were the OP, and basically on a crusade to get the name changed.

 

[aceswired]

No problem man. It's fun to get fired up now and then.

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[Jode]

I originally DID think you were the OP, until I just read your reply and got my .... handed to me, lol.

Sorry man, really wasn't trying to upset anyone here, I think perhaps if you heard me say my post in person, instead of on a message board, it wouldn't have bothered you, I really didn't mean to come off negatively.

Anyway, you posted literally right below my last post in this thread, and if you read my post, you commented on *exactly* what I had said.

I said that "e-cig" is JUST a name. You said it wasn't. So I was replying to what I thought was your reply, but yes, I also thought you were the OP, and basically on a crusade to get the name changed.

I am the OP and am certainly not on any crusade either way. I was simply looking for a well worded reason for the continuance of using the term other then, it just stuck. I really did not intend to start any controversy or arguments on whether the use of the term is good or bad for vaping, although not opposed to having the discussions as long as it is civil. My actual opinion on the term is that it is what it is. I think it helps in that it is a bridge for smokers to make that relationship and possibly get them off smokes and I also agree that sometimes it can hurt by continuing to associate vaping with cigarettes. In the long run, I feel as time passes the term e-cig may phase out as more become aware of what it is but if it doesn't I am not bothered by that. I am only responding to let you know that this whole thread was not a crusade of any sort.