Will it fit? Reo vs Creo.

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Here's the pic of the two side by side, left is clone, right is REO.
 
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If the authentic is sooooooo good...... Why are there parts made and sold for IT???? Logic says, if there is need for rebuild kit with the ORIGINAL, then the Clone will surely need one. There is no rebuild kit FOR the clone, therefore must not require one. Says more about the longevity of the Original than the clone.

Sure, I have a few spare parts for mine, but that is only in the event I should ever need them!!! As to the longevity of the clone....how's your Creo working right now?????? My "authentic" Reo Grand is vaping just as great as the day I originally received it!!!

Seems like a clone REO Grand may be a thing in the near future is what i hear , thats what most are requesting .

Not sure what your hearing, but as we all can see, the masses are lining up from around the world for an opportunity to own the Creo!!! You and your buddy 93gc40 seem to be the only people that own one right now!!!
 

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Well let's take just the negative contact spring for example-- It is made with gold, & is designed to melt if there is a short. If this "fuse" does save your face, it will cost $5 to replace.

Does the clone have this safety feature? If your fake battery melts down & throws your spring into the woods, will you order another?
Actually, the clone does have that feature, and it works perfectly. I found that out by not cleaning out the filings sufficiently when grinding it down to LP. Since that bit of self inflicted stupidity it has worked perfectly.

I bought the clone to see if I would like it enough to invest in a REO. I already had a Terminator/Smokeless Owl, which I rebuilt after the wiring crapped out with solid copper wire for the negative and a brass strip for the positive and now works perfectly.

After using the clone and Terminator for a while, I decided what I really wanted was a PEKO, which is what I bought to celebrate my vapeversary, with a Derringer Reomizer for a topper. I just love the rounded shape with the side cut out for the bottle.
 

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God.... You fan boys are annoying.......
I could start with a $150 authentic and in roughly the same time periods, spend the same $$ replacing the same parts. Right. OR say buy 5-6 clones and toss them as parts fail. Seems about the same to me. I don't really know how long it will be before the clone needs to be rebuilt. BUT, I doubt it will be a much shorter time period, shorter sure. But that blade and 510 threads, pin bushing/seal. Those things are going to wear pretty close authentic or clone.

Welcome to the internet bud.

With that out of the way, from the pics I've seen it looks like spare parts would be a close match. Best way to find out is to try it.
 
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Sure, I have a few spare parts for mine, but that is only in the event I should ever need them!!! As to the longevity of the clone....how's your Creo working right now?????? My "authentic" Reo Grand is vaping just as great as the day I originally received it!!!



Not sure what your hearing, but as we all can see, the masses are lining up from around the world for an opportunity to own the Creo!!! You and your buddy 93gc40 seem to be the only people that own one right now!!!

My Creo is working flawlessly...... Thank You.
I was inquiring about parts for the exact same reason you have already purchased some for your Reo. Yet your parts purchase seems to be regarded as prudent if not noble. My inquiring on the other hand seems to offend people.

Seeing as I bought a squonker to decide if I liked squonking enough to buy a Reo or Peco or Sunbox. I think the $25 each I spent on a Smokless Owl and Creo. Was a good investment, even though the Owl failed after a month.

I am sorry I went to the REOS site to see about buying the authentic... Why because I saw the spare parts. Then was stupid enough to ask of their compatability in the presence of Fanboys. After-all there are only 2 reasons for a manufacturer to sell parts for their product, NEED and GREED. I would like to believe Rob sells the parts because his mod may need them.

I would like a REAL Reo. Provided buying one is proven to not cause SMUG. So far I'm not sure.
But I think my next mod will be regulated.. See I started with Mechanical mods to learn about vaping before I got a mod that does the thinking for me. I tried the squonker because I like vaping with a tank and want a small atty.
 

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Ironic, thats the part he needs!!!

I don't actually NEED any parts.. But since they are sold for the original.. I figure I probably will need them in the future. The two springs are after-all the two main wear items.
Parts kit from REO cost the same as a new clone.... BUT, I can get the kit delivered about 3-4weeks faster. That 3-4 weeks is the reason for the consideration. If $$$ was the reasoning. I would buy a new clone, or a real Reo, instead of fixing the clone. Good thing is that as of NOW, I don't need any parts.... I did buy the clone as a test drive for a REO and squonking. Be nice to knbow if in an emergency the parts from my clone would fit a True Reo, if and when I buy one.

Checking for cross compatible parts is something I do with most of my stuff. I know what Harley, Suzuki, Yamaha, Kawasaki and CAR/truck parts will fit my Honda motorcycle. I know what Ford, Chevy, Dodge, Tractor and trailer parts fit my JEEP. See when something of mine breaks and need fixing, I don't like being trapped into only one source for repair.
 
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Welcome to the internet bud.

With that out of the way, from the pics I've seen it looks like spare parts would be a close match. Best way to find out is to try it.

Naw, this one isn't due to the internet. This fanboy crap was there before computers existed. This about haves and have nots. You know the old mine is bigger than yours thing.
 
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No , it really isn't .

The Reo Grand came out of the modding boards of this forum , made by a member , just like you . That member has supported this forum for many years . He is a friend to hundreds of members, a supplier to a thousand of them .

China have been copying the modders of ECF for a long time . They don't pay for the privilege . They just take quality products and make poor copies . This is one of those poor copies ...an affront to American innovation .

So Redeye Dancer actually pays towards this thread ...to discuss the thrifty virtues of stealing his work . :rolleyes: It's a funny old world .
 

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Here is a 5 year old Reo Grand, nothing has failed on it, replaced the original button with a brass button for aesthetic reasons only. Ground down the drip cup to accept larger diameter atomizers..

Works like a new one.

Check back in 5 years and let us know how that clone is doing....

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Naw, this one isn't due to the internet. This fanboy crap was there before computers existed. This about haves and have nots. You know the old mine is bigger than yours thing.

Naw that's actually not what I was talking about. You came to the internet and asked a question. You expected a simple answer and then insulted us when you did not get the answer you wanted. So again, welcome to the internet bud.
 

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Naw, this one isn't due to the internet. This fanboy crap was there before computers existed. This about haves and have nots. You know the old mine is bigger than yours thing.
Your question has been answered in a civil tone several times. You ignore the answer and use the thread to "poke the bear". How's the fishing trip going?
 

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The positive contact blade on my Clone Reo is failing?


My Creo is working flawlessly...... Thank You.

I don't actually NEED any parts..
Interesting in the original post you mention your firing pin is failing, yet your device works flawlessly and you don't actually need parts now? Why did you even start this thread other than to troll authentic Reo owners!!!
 

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Just remember that the authentic REO's were designed and made right here in the US. A lot of time, effort and money went into creating and refining the design. That's why they cost what they do. R&D is very expensive and then China comes along and just reverse engineers it and makes them on the cheap and sells them. It's really the same for any mod or atty that has been cloned. Sure they are functional, but clones are always flawed one way or the other. Inferior parts, poor threads, bad insulators... I could go on and on but in the end if you want to buy a clone, go for it. It's your right. If you want to support the maker of the original and all the hard work that was put into it, then you can do that as well. Either way it's your choice.
Btw, the authentic REO's do require rebuilds from time to time. They are mechanical devices. Parts wear down over time. Especially if they are not properly used and maintained. It is not a sign of a bad product from REO. It's actually a great service he provides. His parts are always in stock and he ships very quickly. It's one of the best parts of owning a REO. Support means everything in this industry.
 

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No , it really isn't .

The Reo Grand came out of the modding boards of this forum , made by a member , just like you . That member has supported this forum for many years . He is a friend to hundreds of members, a supplier to a thousand of them .

China have been copying the modders of ECF for a long time . They don't pay for the privilege . They just take quality products and make poor copies . This is one of those poor copies ...an affront to American innovation .

So Redeye Dancer actually pays towards this thread ...to discuss the thrifty virtues of stealing his work . :rolleyes: It's a funny old world .

And there it is...you do know that Rob himself supports the clone market by modifying and selling clone attys, right?

I love Rob's work and own several Reos including two P67s, and none of this is directed at him since he's not posted here and these opinions are not necessarily his. I seem to remember him not being too worried about the clone. I agree. I bought one and gave it away in th PIF forum. It's a piece of crap compared to one of Rob's mods and he has no worries about the clone outselling his, or stealing his business, IMO.

If someone wants to buy a clone and that bothers you, that's your prerogative but your argument is full of holes.
 
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You do realize that the Fan boy, Reo, or anticlone BS was caused by your 600% premium remark. You brought this on yourself. You bought a clone because you don't feel the authentic is worth the money but you think the parts are? Kinda funny

But lets forget every other post after your original question and I will answer the question of whether the authentic parts will fit in your clone.

Ready?

Answer: No. The parts for an authentic reo will not work for the clone. You need to obtain the parts for the clone from the manufacture that made the clone. Good luck with that. You want to buy a clone then you should have to buy clone parts simple as that.
Wrong.

Period.

The firing pin is swappable.

Now the plunger you'd have to drill out the paint on the clone... but it's worth it to put a button cap on.

Especially if you want contacts you won't have to replace for the rest of your life.

A 0.025" soft copper bar and some shrink tube works wonders up there. Course you'll have to cut it to size and fold the end over to make a proper contact.

But the results (aside from the gentle springy action in the throw)... night and day...

Most reonauts would have to raise their resistance significantly.

Drill and recess another hole directly Under the battery - and install an 8mm long M3 screw with 2 M3 nuts and you got a solid - electrical contact.

Do these mods and aside from fit and finish, the clone is EXACTLY the same as the OG.

trust me, I know. I have bf'ers that cost me anywhere from $20 to $600 each...

Including 3 OG grands and 2 waidea clones... ALL modified.

Eff garbage current loss ;)

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meaning the contacts? I think that's the part he is having problems with. I would think, as simple as it is, the contact would be interchangeable.
Nope

The plunger

That's it

Ask me how I know.

:blink:

(I won't be responding to most in this thread as the arrogance over a device... and the ignorance thinking without any first hand knowledge, one holds the key and the answer... it's stifling)

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@beckdg did you measure the difference in voltage drop before and after the modifications? Did the grand have the updated gold contacts?
Grand underwent both contact upgrades, fuse mod, etc.

Voltage drop test is FAR, FAR from necessary.

OG grand used to eat completely through becu pos contacts in a couple weeks.

Batteries used to get charged @ 4.0V every time.

I've had the same copper contact installed for months with no sign of decay.

Batts now get changed out between 3.2 & 3.8V.

Been using same build over a yr now.

ETA...

Night and day.

Blatantly obvious.

Grands now perform on par with t-mod, custom-classic, El pincho and my scottua the copper.

Check the voltage drop chart on P Busardo reo grand video to see how significant THAT is.

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@beckdg.

Just trying to work out if the modification would be worth while for me, as I have never had any issues with the contacts burning out, I wondered if there was an appreciable difference in performance. I like to quantify things by measurement before and after a modification to see if it is better or worse.
 
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