Will my cravings for cigarettes ever go away?

[MyMagicMist]

Have you tried any NET vapes?

NET = Naturally Extracted tobacco: the flavor of what a tobacco tastes like, without additives or the MAOIs

Not sure I have. I've tried what one place dubbed Virginia Flue Cured, tried the M Type from TFA. Not sure if either of those are NETs or not. M Type was about like licking a dirty ashtray. Flue Cured, seemed most of it went up the flue. I know too, one will not get bang on cigarette flavor. Not exactly going after that. Sure, I liked Reds (Morely Brand) but I vape now. *chuckles*

Kind of enjoying a caramel tasting vape this morning. It is one I bought at a B&M shop. The flavor is called Whiskey Bent. The fellow ringing it up said the guy who mixes it moved to Mississippi.

Paid ~$17 for a 30 ml glass bottle. Worth it for every hit. The mixer caught a devil's cut of good Southern whiskey in the flavor mix. It is sweet to me yet full bodied. Know there's no way I am getting intoxicated, yet it is tasting like I'm boozing all day. Using it in a tank at 6 mg/ml kind of needs using it all day, too. If it were bumped to 12 mg/ml for tanking it would be off the hook.

I emailed the shop. They have no real website, merely a chamber of commerce 'yellow page' listing. Hoping they can a) supply more b) put me in contact with who can. I have looked for the flavor, maker and come up with craps. Thank you for suggesting NETs. I will keep them in mind, not sure as I said, if I've tried them or not. May have in reading over M Type's promo material. Would guess I got it mixed too high of a percentage of the flavor.

 

[MyMagicMist]

Please add a smiley when you're joking

Maybe they weren't joking. Maybe it's true not vaping enough squishes out your brain gunk?

 

[Racehorse]

IMHO, after a certain amount of time off cigarettes, the urge to pick one up is entirely psychological, esp. if one's need for nicotine is being satisfied by vaping.

I think it's like anything else in life, it requires making certain promises to oneself, and committment.

I embarked on a walking program on the advice of my rheumatologist, and can always "find" an excuse to skip my daily walk (raining, snowing, too hot, too cold, etc.). So now I have a raincoat, the right clothing for different temperatures, and I get up and out on my walk, regardless of my own excuses.

It's no different than deciding not to eat junk food, to get to gym 3x a week, etc. etc. Christmas and New Year's parties are coming up, and my "committment" is to continue to fit into my clothes, so I won't be over-eating or eating the wrong things just because it's on the table at a party. (I really don't crave those things anymore anyway though.)

That said, there are more than 1 way to skin a cat. Acupuncture works very well on a lot of problems, and so does hypnosis. If you are not entirely successful, there's always some ancillary method to try. (I have always felt that just trying to fix things with hardware or ejuice isn't getting to crux of the issue, i.e., that deeply ingrained habits require a look into the emotional/psychological side of oneself.)

I have always felt that there is a certain amount of "drudgery" in life, flossing every day, etc. is a boring chore, and so is staying well-hydrated (I am someone who doesn't have much thirst) but I discipline myself to keep on doing these things. And by the way, the older you get, the more "things" you are having to keep up with in order to stay healthy, so it really DOES require self-discipline to keep it together.

Make some New Years resolutions and then challenge yourself to fulfill them. I enjoy having goals and trying to meet them.

 

[sofarsogood]

Cigarettes sounded good for about a month after I stopped smoking. Then I smoked one at Christmas to see what would happen and to help persuade my brother to start vaping. It didn't taste good. When I think about smoing now I remember how it made me feel unwell. That negative reinforcement seemed to help. Now it's unimaginable that I would start spending that kind of money again. Quitting has freed up a LOT of cash.

 

[Roxyco]

Fairly well mirror their response to Roxyco's questions. Also thank you for the pointer to keeping tobacco flavors on hand. Tried a few tobaccos when I started vaping but did not find anything at least similar enough for myself. May be worth a shot at some different, or newer tobacco flavors. Will need to look at some reviews.

I would like to find myself a nice tobacco flavour for those time I'm thinking of going back to an odd cig... Any suggestions (for shipping in the UK)?

 

[Roxyco]

I've found a couple of local flavors both are a caramel cheesecake, they remind me of an ry4 similar to Halo Tribecca. They have a vanilla and caramel but wih a smokey hint. The tribecca is what I used to use a lot before I started dripping. Kinda has that sweet unlit cigarette taste, to me anyways.

What is 'dripping'? I've heard this a few times in this thread....

 

[MyMagicMist]

What is 'dripping'? I've heard this a few times in this thread....

It is a form of vaping. There is using tanks which hold a lot of juice, and there's dripping where the person vaping needs to carry juice and drip onto the wicks of the atomizer. Some dripping atomizers do hold a lot of juice. In simple terms it is just another way to vape. Some drippers suggest dripping gives a purer vape experience. Some tankers claim the same. Most of us agree that if you like it, more power to you however you do it.

Vaping is like that, up to each of us to find what works for ourselves. I have tried a lot more tanking but have tried a little dripping. For me it is a toss up. Tanks offer convenience of not needing to carry extra juice so often. Flavor can be a bit better for me dripping. I tried a Genisis style RBA which is a hybrid between dripping and tanking imho. I may go with something akin to that eventually.

Again, all in what you want to do and if it suits you. Me? I'm a modwomper, we're nut cases that vape near any way we can and don't worry too much about the frills.

 

[papergoblin]

What is 'dripping'? I've heard this a few times in this thread....

Basically what @MorelyMagicMist said, a dripper has one or more coils with a wick(s) and no tank. You drip 5 to 13 drops (by my drippers each is different) into them take however many pulls then drip more. I do get a better flavor from dripping but it depends on how the coil(s) are built. Look on youtube for RDA videos or dripping. Some like it and some don't, I didn't until I committed to actually getting the hang of it. When starting out it can be messy and honestly aggravating, but when you learn how to build you coils, wick them, and how much to drip at once, it's awesome. I also use genny (genesis) tanks as auto drippers, these are the things (genesis, drippers, kayfun styles) that have led to what vaping is right now, the ever search for the best vape. I call it the unicorn, finding the mod, atomizer, and liquid you can't live without. Some people have found theirs others are always on the search, I have come close but every time I do, I change my tastes in vaping. There is no right or wrong, best or worst....what I like you may hate and vice versa. The thing is if you are satisfied great and if not keep looking, the longer one vapes, the easier it is to figure out what one wants/needs and is possibly missing.

Somethings in vaping is hard to describe, you just know it after you've been through it or had it happen to you. A good example is a dry hit, we can all explain what it is like but once you have one, you know. Some people buy harsh or cheap liquid and get a bad experience, they mistake this for a dry hit when really it's just the wrong juice. I have a juice that when fresh will burn on the inhale like a dry hit but on the exhale stops. A dry hit will burn going in and if you took a big drag, burn on the way out. Right now that is the greatest part of vaping, the experimentation of devices and liquids, which at the same time a lot of us are in fear, due to the gov. threating to take it all (or most) away.

I started vaping in the dark ages, cig a likes and such. I remember when the Evod and Vivi Nova dropped and was like wow, can't get any better. Then the iclear 30's better drippers, learning to use a mech, vv/vw devices, and now temp control. The only thing I know that has advanced faster than vaping is space travel during the cold war

 

[Roxyco]

So a little update.

I went out last night and had a little too much to drink (oops). I asked a friend for a cigarette and literally had 2 puffs and felt so sick... it tasted horrid and the smell lingered on me for what seemed hours.

I can't believe I'm saying this after just 10 days, but I really feel I'm done with smoking, and I realised after last night that I'm not missing anything from cigarettes at all. Yay!!!

 

[MyMagicMist]

So a little update.

I went out last night and had a little too much to drink (oops). I asked a friend for a cigarette and literally had 2 puffs and felt so sick... it tasted horrid and the smell lingered on me for what seemed hours.

I can't believe I'm saying this after just 10 days, but I really feel I'm done with smoking, and I realised after last night that I'm not missing anything from cigarettes at all. Yay!!!

Been vaping approximately a year and a half here. Last week I had a cigarette. The next morning, I awoke all clogged up breathing wise. This happens now if I smoke cigarettes. I feel ill from cigarettes, maybe not at the time I smoke one, it does come though.

So far, I have managed not smoking cigarettes a week. It is a bit difficult when surrounded by several smokers. Ultimately, it is a choice I need to make and be resolute in honoring. I do feel, think I will be able to do that, too. In the meantime, I am not going to debase, chide myself over slips. I am smoking less and less as I go on.

No, we do not miss anything from them. Big tobacco, big pharmaceuticals, big government all miss money from us. I still get offers from big tobacco for free samples, reduced costs as in coupons. Public official types and public servant types also keep offering that I register to vote, too. They offer all kinds of medicines for ailments I never figured anyone could have, much less have made into a pill to spread. Yes indeed, "interesting times we do live in".

 

[Racehorse]

I would like to find myself a nice tobacco flavour for those time I'm thinking of going back to an odd cig... Any suggestions (for shipping in the UK)?

Decadent Vapours is in the UK I believe. So is Totally Wicked.

 

[mcclintock]

It took me a long time to transition from cigs and I still have a half cig if I really want one, and then usually go a couple weeks without really thinking about them. The thing that was obvious right away about vaping was it was easy to avoid backsliding, if I have a cig it's not like falling off a cliff, vaping had its own pull and it's just a matter of time. On the other hand, in terms of the *physical* effects I definitely find them different, the pure nicotine is maybe half of the effect for me. Others, clearly, don't have as much problem. I did try WTAs (Whole Tobacco Alkaloids) and it helped but they're expensive and by then I was down to a cig a day anyway.

I'm also now reducing nicotine in my vape because i don't like it that much, and yet still I smoke sometimes ...

As to NET flavors, no not M-type, stuff like Goodejuice's NET Tobacco eLiquid or www.Naturally-Extracted-Tobacco.com, e-liquids for electronic cigarettes .
I've found some of these great but not always and, like most tobacco flavors, very variable with setup. But it's hard to beat Patriot in an EVOD at proper low power etc.

Synthetic tobacco flavors can also be good and lots of the best mixers are using them in interesting new flavor combinations (they don't always tell you either). On the DIY side try FlavourArts "7 Leaves" for a more NET-like fresh tobacco leaf aroma.

 

[Roxyco]

It took me a long time to transition from cigs and I still have a half cig if I really want one, and then usually go a couple weeks without really thinking about them. The thing that was obvious right away about vaping was it was easy to avoid backsliding, if I have a cig it's not like falling off a cliff, vaping had its own pull and it's just a matter of time. On the other hand, in terms of the *physical* effects I definitely find them different, the pure nicotine is maybe half of the effect for me. Others, clearly, don't have as much problem. I did try WTAs (Whole Tobacco Alkaloids) and it helped but they're expensive and by then I was down to a cig a day anyway.

I'm also now reducing nicotine in my vape because i don't like it that much, and yet still I smoke sometimes ...

As to NET flavors, no not M-type, stuff like Goodejuice's NET Tobacco eLiquid or www.Naturally-Extracted-Tobacco.com, e-liquids for electronic cigarettes .
I've found some of these great but not always and, like most tobacco flavors, very variable with setup. But it's hard to beat Patriot in an EVOD at proper low power etc.

Synthetic tobacco flavors can also be good and lots of the best mixers are using them in interesting new flavor combinations (they don't always tell you either). On the DIY side try FlavourArts "7 Leaves" for a more NET-like fresh tobacco leaf aroma.

So true... thanks for this. You can 'slip' and have a cigarette, but have saved yourself from smoking hundreds of others. I definitely feel a little less 'satisfied' compared to after an analogue, but I know that's because you're also getting thousands of chemicals which add to that 'satisfaction'.

 

[Douggro]

So a little update.

I went out last night and had a little too much to drink (oops). I asked a friend for a cigarette and literally had 2 puffs and felt so sick... it tasted horrid and the smell lingered on me for what seemed hours.

I can't believe I'm saying this after just 10 days, but I really feel I'm done with smoking, and I realised after last night that I'm not missing anything from cigarettes at all. Yay!!!

When your internal conversation shifts from "I want a cigarette" to "I'd like a vape hit", you have crossed the threshold. Cigarettes have lost their grip. You are free!

 

[Hotwire]

I'm the same as you and have accepted PROGRESS and REDUCTION over PERFECTION.

I'm not saying you or anyone else should be the same as me or accept this, but sometimes if highly stressed or if drinking I do crave a cig and do have one. But just one.

With the more powerful PV's now that put out decent vapour paired with an investment in a good tank, it is easier than it has ever been to enjoy vaping more than smoking.

I'd say on average I've cut down from 5 cigarettes a day to one a day - so 80% less or 1460 less cigarettes a year is progress enough for me and I do feel much healthier.

Another good tip to all the rest posted here is to hang around with non smoking friends and not smoke as they don't need to so, if they can enjoy a night out without it, why can't you? Or if your groups has smokers and non smokers, hang closer to the non smokers....

And if you're subohming, well you might try a plus ohm but decent tank. I mistakenly went down the high VG and high watts and low ohms route recently thinking hotter, better hit and more vapour would be better, but to be honest it just gives me wind, indigestion and I don't like it.

Higher PG juice has more TH and more smoke like texture in my opinion.

Um so yeah, try and quit, but remember any progress you make to cut down is golden between now and that cig free day! Go my dad into vaping and he still smokes 15-20 a day but that's better than the 30-40 a day he was on, not perfect but better...