WISMEC Reuleaux RX200 TC

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ddirtyvapes

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@atroph all is fine with the temp control... still don't really know why the vapes would be so different setting the same TCR for same material/same coil across the three devices, but changing the TCR on the RX helped so whatever. I was pretty certain it's not a dud only insofar as I've had it for a while and have gotten successful temp control vapes from all commonly-used TC material at this point in time. It was just being weird in that case, for whatever reason.

@andreidumitrescu as others have said, you don't have to switch from claptons to get a faster ramp up time, just consider upping your wattage some. IMO captons work absolutely beautifully in the Griffin.
 

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The RX cannot control kanthal temperature, so that was user error.

If you were hitting TC immediately with SS, assuming you don't have a dud device, then that was user error, too. You may have been using the wrong grade of SS, had your settings wrong, or used the wrong TCR depending on which is applicable.

The device WILL work in TC mode with nickel, stainless, titanium, and possibly other materials if handled correctly.

You certainly don't have to use it, but don't act like it was the device's fault unless there is something really wrong with it.
 

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I don't know if is the device or the ss or me. I admit i'm not a pro lol. Not beeing a smart .... Maybe my english is strange. Please let me know how high u go for W using Kanthal. This is my buid, running at 46 now. Thanks

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I don't know if is the device or the ss or me. I admit i'm not a pro lol. Not beeing a smart .... Maybe my english is strange. Please let me know how high u go for W using Kanthal. This is my buid, running at 46 now. Thanks
Well nothing wrong with your build anyway. Yes like ddirtyvapes mentioned, Kanthal as well as Nichrome won't work in TC. Oh you can use TC if you want, it will kick out to power mode or just run in TC without temperature control. Ni200, SS, Titanium, and a few others will work under TC though.
 

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I don't know if is the device or the ss or me. I admit i'm not a pro lol. Not beeing a smart .... Maybe my english is strange. Please let me know how high u go for W using Kanthal. This is my buid, running at 46 now. Thanks

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What is the composition of that coil? You can mix kanthal and TC wire and still get a TC vape although the temp might not be too accurate.

I see you are running dual Clapton's. In my experience with complex builds if they go wrong or don't vape that well break it down to something simple like dual SS or dual kanthal and see how it does. Then move up from there once you have the more simpler builds figured out.

As for how high watts? It depends on airflow, juice flow, and personal tastes. On an airy build I'd start at say 20/30 w and move up in say 5 to 10w increments until satisfied.

Don't worry about the tone of people's posts too much. We all come from different walks of life and sometimes the internet doesn't convey a conversation that well which leads to tone and inflection being misinterpreted.

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@andreidumitrescu nothing looks inherently bad with that build, to me, but it is hard to say.

It is hard to say what I would run that build at without actually vaping it, but chances are you can increase a few watts at a time and see what happens. Actually, if you are having an unsatisfying experience, then up to a reasonable limit and given the power you can almost always increase a few watts, take a test puff, and repeat as necessary. More watts isn't always better, but some builds just need more. Those look like a pretty beefy coils of a wide diameter and a not-small amount of wraps. Depending on the gauge of the wire and the overall resistance, it doesn't exactly surprise me that it's ramping up slowly at 46W.

edit: I'm sorry, if I'm reading correctly then I see above you said it's .5 ohm resistance. Look at it this way: Eleaf's 0.5 ohm coil heads are rated for up to 80W. So if 46W isn't doing it, you definitely have room to go up in 2-3W increments.

Otherwise, what @atroph said, the whole thing. I'm certainly not trying to push you to keep the claptons in there or use a particular type of wire. Stainless is nice (IMO) because you have the option of either temp control or not, but not everyone loves it or has it. If you are not a particularly experienced builder though, I agree with the above that it might be a good idea to make sure you are totally comfortable with more basic builds. I have been building a while now and still enjoy simple, round kanthal coils and IMO sometimes these really complicated builds don't pay off as much as it might seem. Some are good, and claptons aren't overly complicated. But there's nothing wrong with keeping it extra simple to start, or otherwise.

Sorry if my tone comes off as blunt at any point. That's just my writing style, but I do apologize.
 

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As mentioned above and given the picture... I would start at a minimum of 55-60watts to fire that Clapton. If you don't want to go up that much in wattage for whatever reason, just remove a couple of wraps making it a 5 wrap instead of a 7 wrap. Your resistance should drop and the ramp up time should also be quicker at the same wattage.

I vape the same way as you, slow and long inhales. Once I got in to temp control I have never looked back. Don't let the temp protection thing scare you, it's totally normal to get it. The mod us basically just doing its job

I would suggest you give SS wire another shot. Currently my builds are SS 316l dual 28 gauge at 0.45-0.47ohm. 40-45 watts at 420-450F. Settings depend on the tank and the juice I'm using. My typical inhales range from 3-6 seconds. Temp control provides are nice steady consistent vape.

As mentioned above, with kanthal it would be cool, get warm to a perfect vape, then finish off hot and sometimes burnt.

With temp control, image your whole vape to be the perfect warm vape because once you find your sweet spot aka temp setting, it will be a night and day difference.
 
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I'm really glad it's working better for you @andreidumitrescu!

Just so you know for the future though, it does seem like you are wrapping lots of wraps... 7 with a Clapton and 10 on 2.5mm with 24g is definitely on the high side.

It doesn't matter one bit as long as it is working for you. However, if you're ever having problems with long ramp up time again, that's probably why. You may be better off with fewer wraps with a thinner (higher gauge) wire... But as long as your current coil feels good and vapes right, there's no problem.
 

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I'm getting a 404 on that FB page, but it's up on the Wismec main site.

That is the ugliest JT attempt at typography since their Presa "70's Atari" font. :rolleyes:

However... we now have a 3rd party editor for the VTC which includes a growing library of .bin files and patches for the RX, etc with their smaller "landscape" screens.

I haven't played with it yet, but while not "Escribe", it does allow some features to be adjusted on the VTC's larger screen (not just a logo or typeface). Such as...which readout features are displayed, menu parameters, brightness levels, etc.

I expect this will get a similar treatment... quickly. :)
 
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