wow... a provari copy made by smoktech?
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Their most recent popular PV - the Bolt - had a lot of posts about the wires being too thin and conductivity problems with overspray. We'll see if this PV has the same sorts of compromises. Many posts referred to it as a clone of the Silver Bullet, but the build quality doesn't approach that mod. I think of my PV's as tools as I use them all day, so their durability is what makes them a good value. All of my US made tube mods can be serviced by the vendor and myself if necessary - I'd hate to have to buy again in six months regardless of the initial savings.
Its nowhere near the build quality of a Provari . It has a cheap standard chineese voltmeter where Provari has a microcontrolled boost circuit and real micro controlled numerical display
I pmed kenny about this cheap knockoff a while back . Funny what the chineese do.
I pmed kenny about this cheap knockoff a while back . Funny what the chineese do.
I have a VMAX right now that Im testing,ALL chrome with blue LED readout,I have 2 18350's AW IMR inside and I have to say this thing is very impressive. Having a degree in electrical engineering it is quite the powerhouse. It has handled every carto Ive put on it so far at EVERY VOLTAGE (3-6v) and I've metered it the whole way up and down. Yes even 1.25 and 1.5 ohm DC's at 6v. It kinda put the fear of god in me at those voltages from the amount of vapor I was given as I usually am a 801 fusion 3.2ohm vaper at 4.3-4.6v. So far I am very surprised at the all out performance of this mod. It is smaller than a Provari though(diameter) but just a tad.It has a 3.2 or 3.5 amp button that has a great feel to it. The display is not as nice as the provari but does do its job nicely. Its EXTREMELY BRIGHT BLUE. It measures battery voltage in real time as you vape and I've never seen it drop below .2volts no matter what carto Im using and thats only for a mili-second then it jumps right back up to the battery voltage total. No it's not a Provari,nope not a Darwin either,but it probably wont have the $250-$300 dollar price tag of them either, but I will say, if I was a Provari or a Darwin, this is the device that I might be having nightmares about. I haven't seen a E1 code yet....nothing. It just simply vapes whatever I put on it at whatever voltage I put to it with no issue. Yes I know that could be a bad thing but my benchtests so far show this as SOLID. My opinion. Take care everyone......J
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Funny.....I remember hearing the same hype about another Chinese VV device, anybody wanna name that device for me?
I have a VMAX right now that Im testing,ALL chrome with blue LED readout,I have 2 18350's AW IMR inside and I have to say this thing is very impressive. Having a degree in electrical engineering it is quite the powerhouse. It has handled every carto Ive put on it so far at EVERY VOLTAGE (3-6v) and I've metered it the whole way up and down. Yes even 1.25 and 1.5 ohm DC's at 6v. It kinda put the fear of god in me at those voltages from the amount of vapor I was given as I usually am a 801 fusion 3.2ohm vaper at 4.3-4.6v. So far I am very surprised at the all out performance of this mod. It is smaller than a Provari though(diameter) but just a tad.It has a 3.2 or 3.5 amp button that has a great feel to it. The display is not as nice as the provari but does do its job nicely. Its EXTREMELY BRIGHT BLUE. It measures battery voltage in real time as you vape and I've never seen it drop below .2volts no matter what carto Im using and thats only for a mili-second then it jumps right back up to the battery voltage total. No it's not a Provari,nope not a Darwin either,but it probably wont have the $250-$300 dollar price tag of them either, but I will say, if I was a Provari or a Darwin, this is the device that I might be having nightmares about. I haven't seen a E1 code yet....nothing. It just simply vapes whatever I put on it at whatever voltage I put to it with no issue. Yes I know that could be a bad thing but my benchtests so far show this as SOLID. My opinion. Take care everyone......J
There needs to be some understanding here the Ecig was created by the Chinese " Ruyan" so in reality the Provari is a type of clone! Just as all the RY4 I vape Wounder how many people that own a Provari, own a Bolt, if you own a Bolt why didnt you buy the Silver Bullet or BB? All these new things coming out is going to happen, it doesnt matter if its a clone or not, new stuff will always be in the future, I do think some of the Mods or Glorified ECigs, because in the end they all have the same purpose, are over priced and with the rise of new things, it makes these vendors consider do they want to sink or make a change. I do really really like my provari and its in my hand 24/7 but I support all new products and not worry if its a clone because I enjoy having that option.
Wounder how many people that own a Provari, own a Bolt, if you own a Bolt why didnt you buy the Silver Bullet or BB? All these new things coming out is going to happen, it doesnt matter if its a clone or not, new stuff will always be in the future, I do think some of the Mods or Glorified ECigs, because in the end they all have the same purpose, are over priced and with the rise of new things, it makes these vendors consider do they want to sink or make a change. I do really really like my provari and its in my hand 24/7 but I support all new products and not worry if its a clone because I enjoy having that option.
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Well alot of people say "made in the usa" ... Now are all parts made in the usa ? You would be suprised how many parts are not made in the usa ... perhaps assembled in USA, but stuff is coming from china/japan/thailand, like almost all electronical parts
The difference between anywhere be it USA/Europe is, we have standards, and don't put in the crap/faulty stuff. If we make a batch of something and we take a sample lets say 5/1000 and they are malfunctioning we don't continue. In those other countries, they'll test and even if it does have flaws, it will get sold, even if they know it's faulty. Thats the difference
But alot of the parts/transistors etc are coming from the other countries, so if you think USA is the center of the world and everything is better when it comes from the USA you are wrong. There is even quite alot of stuff just put into boxes labeled made in USA/Europe which is just wrapped in a new box and sold as is. And where do you think all your cartomizers and atomizers are from ? Yes you guessed correctly : China !. Unless you have a custom mod
I do agree I prefer buying something in Europe/USA, due to regulations/standards we have in place. And yes if I would need to chose between a knockoff and the real thing. I will buy the real thing, specially if it's only a small difference and has a reputation of good quality
I do know this post might upset some people, but this is the reality
The difference between anywhere be it USA/Europe is, we have standards, and don't put in the crap/faulty stuff. If we make a batch of something and we take a sample lets say 5/1000 and they are malfunctioning we don't continue. In those other countries, they'll test and even if it does have flaws, it will get sold, even if they know it's faulty. Thats the difference
But alot of the parts/transistors etc are coming from the other countries, so if you think USA is the center of the world and everything is better when it comes from the USA you are wrong. There is even quite alot of stuff just put into boxes labeled made in USA/Europe which is just wrapped in a new box and sold as is. And where do you think all your cartomizers and atomizers are from ? Yes you guessed correctly : China !. Unless you have a custom mod
I do agree I prefer buying something in Europe/USA, due to regulations/standards we have in place. And yes if I would need to chose between a knockoff and the real thing. I will buy the real thing, specially if it's only a small difference and has a reputation of good quality
I do know this post might upset some people, but this is the reality
What cracks me up is how most vendors say juice made in the USA, it may be mixed in the USA but all the ingredients come from another country.
It's troublesome to see, that alot of daily used stuff is imported. But let reality hit you, without those countries we are going back to the stoneages :/
You guys are actually a bit wrong. Working in the electronics field i can tell you theres a huge difference between USA made electronics components and cheap Chinese crap components . Chinese component are bound to fail and have a long following of mass produced crappy electronic components . The Provari does not use that crap . Provari uses components from companies like Texas Instruments,Atmel,maxim . All quality US made electronics companies that the Chinese cant touch with a ten foot pole. There are countless bills for customs to deny these crappy Chinese knock off components from coming in the country on the horizen. That is the truth. The only good components coming from overseas are not from china ,there from Japan,germany etc.Us made electronics componants are triple the price for a reason. Take LEDs for example.Go buy 100 5mm LEDs from china for 1.00 and compare them to a quality US manufacturer like Lumileds/Luxeon with sell that same LED for 1.50 each . You will find that the chinese LED is not bin match ,ratings all over the place, tons of defects and burning out in minutes due to the over rated specs.Well your lucky if they even list the specs. Then you have the lumiled which is bin match where every LED is the same spec and wavelegth . No variations though out the bin label and come with datasheet as well as not burn out prematurely . Prime example of the quality difference.
As for the ejuice thats also partially wrong too. There are a couple flavoring companies that have full US made ingredients and developed flavorings .A lot of the flavoring ingredients are cheap Chinese perfumer ingredients but not all.
As for the ejuice thats also partially wrong too. There are a couple flavoring companies that have full US made ingredients and developed flavorings .A lot of the flavoring ingredients are cheap Chinese perfumer ingredients but not all.
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Yeah, but look at ythe good US apple, producing in China or India or Pakistan, or ..... 100$ crap and selling it as upper class US made stuff for 500$. Then you buy a 150$ also China produced Android phone, who, even if it hurts does the samee things and is produced by nearly the same people.
I'm gonna say this again......
They said all the same stuff about......the Provari Killer? No the Lava tube.....welcome to the lava tubes cousin the next "Provari killer"....
They said all the same stuff about......the Provari Killer? No the Lava tube.....welcome to the lava tubes cousin the next "Provari killer"....
The lava was the first attempt, now we got the second, coming closer. What will be the third, and will they keep selling at 200/300 bucks there stuff? So be happy, this only contributes to lowering prices thats what the user wants.
Agreed!!! Competition should create better quality and lower prices for the end user...in due time my friends
- One can only hope anyway
How should I put it ... everything coming from China seems to get degraded to absolute crap in here .. it's almost like US supremacy ... Which I was referring to me in the first place. Not everything is true "Made in US". Because most people even sound like if it's not from the US we are not buying it ... but they still are buying stuff no matter what.
Atomizers, carto's are still coming from China, so I really don't get the China dislike. I do agree with they have no rules & everything gets sold, even if lesser quality. But that's not true for everything. Yes they will copy everything they see, due to regulations. I am a freelancer and make software and have worked for fortune 500 companies. If you have an application and they like it, they will hire a ton of people and rebuild it in 6 Months time. Patent's etc, they don't care. But what is good for the customer is, due to supplying stuff cheaper people become more aware and prices will drop in general
Anyway I am not for copying stuff. If someone had a good idea or built a good product let them have it. You can copy features, but not make an almost 99% copy. I am completely against that. But due to copies being made, the original stuff needs to come up with new things, thus improving stuff for the clients, because they need to find new ways to beat the knockoffs & people will still look for the price.
It's like a computer/laptop, what I would not even touch, 95% of the general population would still buy it, cause it's a laptop. The same applies to vape stuff. What people in here perhaps wouldn't buy, because they know better, someone else will buy
Atomizers, carto's are still coming from China, so I really don't get the China dislike. I do agree with they have no rules & everything gets sold, even if lesser quality. But that's not true for everything. Yes they will copy everything they see, due to regulations. I am a freelancer and make software and have worked for fortune 500 companies. If you have an application and they like it, they will hire a ton of people and rebuild it in 6 Months time. Patent's etc, they don't care. But what is good for the customer is, due to supplying stuff cheaper people become more aware and prices will drop in general
Anyway I am not for copying stuff. If someone had a good idea or built a good product let them have it. You can copy features, but not make an almost 99% copy. I am completely against that. But due to copies being made, the original stuff needs to come up with new things, thus improving stuff for the clients, because they need to find new ways to beat the knockoffs & people will still look for the price.
It's like a computer/laptop, what I would not even touch, 95% of the general population would still buy it, cause it's a laptop. The same applies to vape stuff. What people in here perhaps wouldn't buy, because they know better, someone else will buy
[QUOTE I'm gonna say this again......
They said all the same stuff about......the Provari Killer? No the Lava tube.....welcome to the lava tubes cousin the next "Provari killer"....[/QUOTE]
I get your point but this is really a different setup entirely. I have a lavatube V 1, and will have the V2 monday morning, the V2 has a 3.2 amp limiting switch, ohms check readout , and on screen battery indicator. Will be a bit better than the V1 lavatube. Now the VMAX that I've been using and testing for a week now I will not say its a provari killer,not at all. But will it give it a run for its money...ABSOLUTELY. I have both right here in front of me. The VMAX is using "2" 18350 AW IMR 700 maH batteries, while my provari is running the AW IMR 2000maH battery. One unit is a boosted circuit, the other is not. They really are totally different beasts, but both are beasts none the less. Right now Im leaning towards the VMAX, only because of the power to spare. Where i have to put the "vari" at 4.3-4.6 volts to get that good vapor sweet spot and tax the battery more than I would like to,the VMAX is set a 3.8 but feels like 4.8 on my 'vari" and barely taxes the batteries at all,and they last longer because of this with less strain. This is my opinion,please take it as such,but please keep in mind I do have both devices right here and am using both everyday for these comparisons. As far as the look of the VMAX being comparible to the 'vari', well all I can try to keep in mind is...... WHATS THE BEST FORM OF FLATERY ???.....LOL ......... Take care everyone. J
They said all the same stuff about......the Provari Killer? No the Lava tube.....welcome to the lava tubes cousin the next "Provari killer"....[/QUOTE]
I get your point but this is really a different setup entirely. I have a lavatube V 1, and will have the V2 monday morning, the V2 has a 3.2 amp limiting switch, ohms check readout , and on screen battery indicator. Will be a bit better than the V1 lavatube. Now the VMAX that I've been using and testing for a week now I will not say its a provari killer,not at all. But will it give it a run for its money...ABSOLUTELY. I have both right here in front of me. The VMAX is using "2" 18350 AW IMR 700 maH batteries, while my provari is running the AW IMR 2000maH battery. One unit is a boosted circuit, the other is not. They really are totally different beasts, but both are beasts none the less. Right now Im leaning towards the VMAX, only because of the power to spare. Where i have to put the "vari" at 4.3-4.6 volts to get that good vapor sweet spot and tax the battery more than I would like to,the VMAX is set a 3.8 but feels like 4.8 on my 'vari" and barely taxes the batteries at all,and they last longer because of this with less strain. This is my opinion,please take it as such,but please keep in mind I do have both devices right here and am using both everyday for these comparisons. As far as the look of the VMAX being comparible to the 'vari', well all I can try to keep in mind is...... WHATS THE BEST FORM OF FLATERY ???.....LOL ......... Take care everyone. J
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I have a VMAX right now that Im testing,ALL chrome with blue LED readout,I have 2 18350's AW IMR inside and I have to say this thing is very impressive. Having a degree in electrical engineering it is quite the powerhouse. It has handled every carto Ive put on it so far at EVERY VOLTAGE (3-6v) and I've metered it the whole way up and down. Yes even 1.25 and 1.5 ohm DC's at 6v. It kinda put the fear of god in me at those voltages from the amount of vapor I was given as I usually am a 801 fusion 3.2ohm vaper at 4.3-4.6v. So far I am very surprised at the all out performance of this mod. It is smaller than a Provari though(diameter) but just a tad.It has a 3.2 or 3.5 amp button that has a great feel to it. The display is not as nice as the provari but does do its job nicely. Its EXTREMELY BRIGHT BLUE. It measures battery voltage in real time as you vape and I've never seen it drop below .2volts no matter what carto Im using and thats only for a mili-second then it jumps right back up to the battery voltage total. No it's not a Provari,nope not a Darwin either,but it probably wont have the $250-$300 dollar price tag of them either, but I will say, if I was a Provari or a Darwin, this is the device that I might be having nightmares about. I haven't seen a E1 code yet....nothing. It just simply vapes whatever I put on it at whatever voltage I put to it with no issue. Yes I know that could be a bad thing but my benchtests so far show this as SOLID. My opinion. Take care everyone......J
VAP, can you please tell me where you got your VMax? I want one BAD; it'll go very nicely with my Smoktech Woo, which virtually everyone here said to avoid like herpes, but kicks serious ..... I love the thing. I'm running it with the original (crappy and unprotected) 16340's that came with it, one of which was DOA, but with protected batteries, it'll be a wonderful mod. I'm glad everyone else hates it, because that means there will be plenty of them in stock for me and my friends.
I liked your quick review of the VMax, and continue to be amazed by all of the naysayers who reject it sight unseen. I want to try one for myself.
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