Yes I still Smoke Cigarettes and I am addicted to the smoking habit - support and chat thread.

[Karen N Daytona]

rotflol! You are so funny. I'm glad your here.

Jman
Hey, if cigalikes work for you, millions of bonus points your way and don't think twice and don't feel weird. Count your lucky stars. I truly am glad they work for someone and I'm not saying that sarcastically. I wished they worked for me.

You are such a nut!!! I love nuts.

Thank you!!!!! All I can say is that you all bring out my fun side! The evil witch can be seen on Facebook! At least according to one person.

Thaya, what kind of nuts are you into? I personally like pistachio and walnuts. Almonds and Pecans are good too!

 

[aikanae1]

Warning...long-winded newbie tech question here - if you're tired of "what should I buy?" posts, I won't be upset if you scroll down

Bit of a hijack here (is there such a thing in this thread? If so, I haven't seen it), soooo much information overload from searching and reading, but I think I might know which way I should go.

Since I picked up my Protank II, I was hoping that I'd be good with my EVOD VV batteries, but it's just so top-heavy. Looks fine to me (kinda like a magic wand ), but I wish it could stand on it's own. See my previous pic, I have my PV standing up in an old Boy Scout neckerchief slide

I'm thinking I'll have to go mod, but I don't want to have to deal with "battery and charger sold separately", buy this, buy that, yadda yadda yadda. The B&M talked me into VV for my starter kit, and I'm very glad he did that. I've definitely noticed a taste and vape difference with the different juices I've gotten on different voltages. I think I want to play with VW.

I don't want to build my own mod, and I don't want to shell out a bunch of cash (read: no Provari...I know they're great, just too spendy and I'm afraid they're also the "charger and battery sold separately").

I was hoping to stay away from box mods, but it looks like that might be the only way I can get an all-in-one solution. I want to stay local too. B&Ms are very important to me both from a local support standpoint as well as instant gratification. Even if that means I spend a few more $$. No online purchases for this, I need to stay local.

I loved the iTaste SVD. Telescoping, VV, VW, looked good...until I ran into the tagline I hate...requires battery and charger...grrrr

I saw the ZMax. Looked nice, VV, VW...requires battery and charger

Then I found the iTatste MVP. Everything I need is in the box! Batteries are built in! No goofy charger to find a plug for! Yay! It even has a tank to try out! Cool!

Have I just talked myself into a box mod? Am I missing something that tells me I could actually use the 510 charger that came with my EVOD kit (and the spare I have at work) for a cylindrical mod with 510 connection? I just want something that will hold a fair amount of juice, stand up on its own, and not put me in the doghouse for the rest of the winter?

To each their own. There are pros and cons to everything. One of the values of batteries + charger is that mods tend to have a longer life (usually) and for some, it's easier to switch out batteries and replace them than the entire mod. It's a lifestyle choice more than anything. Most ego-like mods have a life span of apx 6 months to a year before they can no longer hold a charge. I had a bad experience with genuine ego's bought at b&m where they barely lasted a month. For the price I paid was over half the price of a Provari. Within the first 2 months of vaping, I had a grand total of $180 in dead hardware if I included my first cigalike kit from a convience store. TG not everyone shares my experience.

I tend to be very nit picky about how long they last. Innokin's are still pretty new (< 1 year) but it appears they may be one of the best deals going for a non-battery and charger mod with vv/vw. The itastes appear to be lasting too.

Don't dismiss form factor. You have to want to pick it up, hold and vape it. It has to appeal to you or you may not use it as often as you'd like. It is very helpful to find a local vape meet and check out a variety. What ever you get needs to suit you.

It took hundreds of hours of reading before I got my first replacement ego-likes. Double that with non-stop questions in a ton of different threads. There are thousands of mods out there and they all have their own personality; pro's and con's. It was overwhelming.

I wished there was a simple series of menus with apx 4 questions that would help identify important feactures and with each new menu, suggested mods that fit a person's lifestyle and preferences for vaping. Something like that would make those choices so much easier. I've seen "decision maker" surveys like that for digital cameras and they really help even if I don't agree with the initial suggestions. It helps to narrow down what I want most and find the right balance; point and shoot, ametuer or proffessional level, etc.

You may want to support your local b&m and I have no idea what is available near you. Kudos. They need support. However your first obligation is to yourself and that may be an unneccessary requirement in the beginning. Many b&m's make more profit off selling eliquids than mods anyway. Just a suggestion. The first major decision to buy (committ) to a mod can color your vaping experience with frustration or success so it's important IMO.

In my case, I wish I hadn't bought through a b&m because they gave me lousy advice and service and price. I just didn't know better yet and I had been on ECF by then (briefly). Another friend had the opposite experience at a different b&m in the same town. Night and day difference. That's all I can say.

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[aikanae1]

I was about ready to mention the MVP, and then you did. I love, love, LOVE my iTaste VV V3 and except for the design and battery life, they are identical. I think that is likely your best bet, because the VW feature is really awesome, and if you should ever get interested in rebuilding (never say never!), you have a built-in ohm reader.

I don't know of any round, mod-sized device with a built-in battery. The "fatty" ego's might work better, but they're still not big enough to counter-act the weight of the PT.

I have a larger spinner battery that seems to hold its own with the PT on it, but you would need at least 1000 mAh for the right size, and at that point you might as well get the MVP.

A shot glass makes a really good ego stand too.

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[Karen N Daytona]

FOr $1.50 I found a candle holder (at least I think that was what it was) that fits my mods and e-cigs it has 9 slots, I need to fill the rest!

Its skinny so it fits well on the desk,

I am going to sleep early, still not over the back thing. Tomorrow, I will tell you how I tried to fix it and what went oooohhhh ssssooooo wrong. still feeling the effects like a tidal wave.

So, good night and sweet dreams!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Yakone]

Thank you so much much posting your story loxmythe. I have been vaping for one month. In a few days, I went from smoking 25-30 cigs per day to 4. I was so proud of myself. MY goal was 0 by New Years. I failed. I was chicken. For a few days, I did manage to get down to 2. One in the morning and one in the evening. Thanks for making me feel better about what I have accomplished. I am still smoking 21-26 less cigs per day. I seem to be stuck at 4.

 

[ShariR]

Jim, I went right from a Blu disposable to a couple of 1300mah Vision Spinners. I love the spinners. Couple of months ago I got myself and MVP2 to see if the vw made that much difference to me. I found that when I am changing juices or testing out new ones, I tend to fiddle with the wattage as much as I fiddle with the voltage so I guess have variable wattage is not as important as I thought it would be for me. I do not use lots of different ohms on my toppers though so I am dialing in for taste, not resistance.

I love my MVP2. As long as I know it was charged that day I do not have to worry about a battery going dead. And all the jokes you hear and read about the puff counter, I actually do use it. I look at it to get an idea of how much I have vaped all day or a ballpark idea if I will need to charge it fairly soon. Yeah, I am weird. For the money, you can not beat the MVP2. It is built well, lasts a long time between charges and for most people has a long life span. Plus I read that it has a better chip than a lot of the other Chinese mods. Something to do with its pulse width modulation. The Evic I have read is more fragile and does not survive rough use or drops well.

There are threads for just about all of the major devices. Do a little reading on the ones you are thinking about. Read what owners are liking and trying to find fixes for. Just from my reading it looks like the Vamo has soft threads and can be stripped or cross threaded easily. The Zmax has button issues on some. The Evic is delicate. The MVP2 sometimes needs an adapter to use an evod or protank on it (the pin is set lower than some other mods). Have not read a lot about SID. VTR is heavy and some don't like the spinning ring at base of juice compartment, hard to clean. The Provari you have to buy beauty rings for cartotanks and RBA for smooth look and is only 510 threaded so need adapters to use evods and ego threaded toppers and only uses unprotected button top batteries (AW IMR).

I do not believe that you can sub ohm on any of the regulated mods (have a chip in them). You need a mech mod for that. The chips in the regulated mods limit how low you can go on ohms. Many cut you off around 1 ohm to 1.3ohms depending on device. Also you need unprotected batteries because the chip provides the protection. Batteries is another topic to read about, button top or flat top, etc. and safety here.

 

[Rancor0681]

New to conversation but my 2 cents
Without failure there is no success
without the feeling of failure you can not truly appreciate what success feels like.

To all who haven't fully quit keep up the good work! It's hard enough to cut back let alone quit.

To all those who are negative Twords you for not fully quiting screw em they have no business judging you to begin with.

 

[ShariR]

Welcome to the thread Yakone. You are doing great. Especially since it is during the holidays. Those last few cigarettes a day are the hardest for everyone. I think it is also psychological. You are giving up your best friend. Hard to do. I remember how hard it was for me to give up my Teddy Bear as a child and how hard it was for my son to give up his Blankie. I think our cigarettes become a part of us and who we think we are. It is like - if I don't have that cigarette, well now what am I going to do with myself???

You know what I did for a while? I watched what other people who did not smoke would do when I would smoke. It is interesting. My DH does not smoke, never did. He also never likes to linger after dinner at the table for coffee (my cigarette time). Used to aggravate me when we would go out to dinner. After I was vaping for a while I figured out that he had no need to linger at the table, he was done eating so let's go. I always wanted to linger over an after dinner cigarette. Felt like the meal was not complete. Watch non smokers and take note of what they do. May give you a little insight into things you can do/change/understand about yourself and your smoking cravings/habits. Non smokers have their own little things. Doodling, playing with their hair, crossword puzzles, reading, a project, just sitting still doing nothing. It is so hard for me to do that. Just sit and do absolutely nothing at all. I still think, where's my cigarette, only now I vape. Most of us have been smoking for so long that we can not remember what people do when they are not smoking at those time we usually smoke.

Thank you so much much posting your story loxmythe. I have been vaping for one month. In a few days, I went from smoking 25-30 cigs per day to 4. I was so proud of myself. MY goal was 0 by New Years. I failed. I was chicken. For a few days, I did manage to get down to 2. One in the morning and one in the evening. Thanks for making me feel better about what I have accomplished. I am still smoking 21-26 less cigs per day. I seem to be stuck at 4.

 

[QueenVictoria]

I started vaping in 2010 and quit for 9 months the first time. I started with a 510 cig-a-like. This was back when we had those lame carts.
I quickly upgraded to an eGo, but only because I won one here on the forum. Boy did I feel like I was vaping with the big boys then. Most of the stuff we take for granted now didn't exist then.
Then I won a provape1 and they came out with drip tips. That was good, I did that for a long time; drip on a regular or LR 510 atty.
When I relapsed and was smoking, I stopped coming to the forum so much.
When I came back around everything had changed and I got busy trying clearos and designer sparkle batteries.
Now I have settled down with my best set up a carto tank. I think I'll be content with it for quite some time.

 

[Yakone]

Thank you Rancor0681.

 

[Equality 7-2521]

well first off the devices you've named are all vv devices which won't allow you to vape coils below the 1.2 ohm range they have built in cut offs for saftey reasons. they're designed for mass produced attys and clearos, and cartos for the most part.most rba folks vape on mechanicals as it allows them to vape 1ohm or below.

the choice of what kind of coil to use depends on alot of factors....what type of wick you like to use..whether your a flavor hound or a cloud chaser..whether you want a hot vape or cool vape. what kind of coil brings out the subtelties of the particular juice your vaping some juices vape better than others at different wire tempratues...that's why i say it gives you a very wide berth for different kinds of vapes......micro coils are used with cotton, or hemp, they are reputed to give better flavor and vapor than standard coils with those kinds of wicks. the coil is wrapped on a very thin say needle then heated and the coils squeezed together so the coils all touch each other.alot of the times the wick can be wrapped around the coil rather than inside it. they are used alot in attys like drippers,reomizers,kayfuns.They tend to vape warmer. what you refer to as regular coils are used on things like ceramic, or stainles steel mesh, or ss cable wicks usually in gennys and wrapped around wicks in the 1/16 to 3/16 range, but they are very good on any type of wick cotton,hemp, silica, and used in all types of RBAs.also what will determine the coil is the gauge of wire you use anything from 26 to 32 gauge usually.

Though i persoanlly usually vape a ceramic wick in my kayfun,that requires building a ceramic wick for it ....which is a whole can of worms in itself. most people vape their kayfuns with cotton, silica, or hemp. my advice to you is

1) the kayfun style, and it's clone are really easy to build on and are very forgiving atties almost idiot proof.
2) forget micro coils in the begining start on simple wraps .....there are tons of youtube videos of builds on the kayfun.
3) until you learn more about rebuildables. and even after always...use safe high drain batteries, aw imr,mke, or orbtronics..though alot of the devices you are using have built in saftey networks, that won't allow you to build below1.2
4) get an ohm meter or a device that has one built onto it.I use my old vamo.

Thank you for providing that explanation. I use a 510 atty and evods only, 2.2ohms. I am on an interest list for a Russian 91%. How do you know if you want a regular 5 wrap(ish) coil or a micro coil? What is the difference? I know I do not want sub ohm. This will be for on my Provari Mini. Or MVP2 or spinner.

 

[twgbonehead]

I am glad to hear that you are healing. I think the older you get the harder it is to bounce back from any sort of injury. Bones are bad ones to snap back from. Work with that left wrist. When I broke my right one I babied it and it took much longer to get the strength back in it.

The Liqua coffee is quite good. The Liqua Tiramisu is good, but I have since had a few domestic ones and I will not buy Liqua's Tiramisu again. But if your choices are DeKang, Hangsen, and Liqua it is pretty decent. Some of the flavors are not good at all. I think it is the Hangsen Juicy Peach that seems to get good reviews.

The Fasttech Thread for all Fasttech Posts is a long thread where a lot of people from different countries have done reviews on a mess of the Chinese eliquids. For a lot of people that is all they pretty much can get their hands on easily. Have to do a fair amount of searching the thread and a lot of reading, but worth it. The last few months the thread is pretty much consumed with if their packages are getting through and how long it is taking.

Thanks, Shari! Yes, both the Hand Specialist and the PT said "Stretch it until it really hurts, as often as you can". No babying here (although I'm a bit more of a baby than my Dr would like).

I started with the Juicy Peach a while ago from reading about it on the FastTech thread (which is large, but is dwarfed by this one!) and I do think it's one of the best juices I've got. However, I decided yesterday to just shotgun it and order a variety of the Dekang, Hangsen, and Liqua juices looking for more treasures. (Also got a few extra batts, which I ordered separately, and which will get shipped by a different carrier) Will be interesting to see what the difference is in delivery times (and whether I'm better off throwing some cheap battery in with every order or not!)

 

[twgbonehead]

Jim,

The ITaste MVP is awesome; I have 2 that are my main mods. However, you charge it with a mini-usb connector - it WON'T charge from a 510-adapter charger. (mini-usb plugs in to the back).
Also have an Itaste VW 3.0 which is nice, but it's about the same price as the MVP for a much smaller battery. I thought the MVP would be too big and heavy, but I got used to it fast. The throw on the MVP button is pretty heavy (which some people don't like).

Would recommend getting some ego->510 adapters for it, since some of the cheaper carto's don't seem to make contact well (something like this:

https://www.fasttech.com/products/1473305

Edit:
By the way, the MVP is very well made! On my recent trip down the cellar stairs I was holding it in my hand.

Put a large dent in the corner of it (from the concrete floor) and it cut a 4" gash in my jaw, but I cleaned all the blood off of it and it still works like a champ! (the MVP, that is. The jaw is still a little sore about the whole thing).

Warning...long-winded newbie tech question here - if you're tired of "what should I buy?" posts, I won't be upset if you scroll down

Bit of a hijack here (is there such a thing in this thread? If so, I haven't seen it), soooo much information overload from searching and reading, but I think I might know which way I should go.

Since I picked up my Protank II, I was hoping that I'd be good with my EVOD VV batteries, but it's just so top-heavy. Looks fine to me (kinda like a magic wand ), but I wish it could stand on it's own. See my previous pic, I have my PV standing up in an old Boy Scout neckerchief slide

I'm thinking I'll have to go mod, but I don't want to have to deal with "battery and charger sold separately", buy this, buy that, yadda yadda yadda. The B&M talked me into VV for my starter kit, and I'm very glad he did that. I've definitely noticed a taste and vape difference with the different juices I've gotten on different voltages. I think I want to play with VW.

I don't want to build my own mod, and I don't want to shell out a bunch of cash (read: no Provari...I know they're great, just too spendy and I'm afraid they're also the "charger and battery sold separately").

I was hoping to stay away from box mods, but it looks like that might be the only way I can get an all-in-one solution. I want to stay local too. B&Ms are very important to me both from a local support standpoint as well as instant gratification. Even if that means I spend a few more $$. No online purchases for this, I need to stay local.

I loved the iTaste SVD. Telescoping, VV, VW, looked good...until I ran into the tagline I hate...requires battery and charger...grrrr

I saw the ZMax. Looked nice, VV, VW...requires battery and charger

Then I found the iTatste MVP. Everything I need is in the box! Batteries are built in! No goofy charger to find a plug for! Yay! It even has a tank to try out! Cool!

Have I just talked myself into a box mod? Am I missing something that tells me I could actually use the 510 charger that came with my EVOD kit (and the spare I have at work) for a cylindrical mod with 510 connection? I just want something that will hold a fair amount of juice, stand up on its own, and not put me in the doghouse for the rest of the winter?

 

[twgbonehead]

FOr $1.50 I found a candle holder (at least I think that was what it was) that fits my mods and e-cigs it has 9 slots, I need to fill the rest!

For that particular type of candleholder, you need to buy yourself a new mod every day, and always take your first drag from the one in the center position!

(Hope that wasn't too subtle...)

(Edit)

You'll also find that your e-liquid lasts 8 times as long as it would otherwise ;-)

 

[fpkites]

Just wanted to pop in and say Good morning!

Also thanks to everybody on helping me wrap my mind around a bigger mod. I'm going to see if I can hit one of the B&Ms today to test drive some.

 

[Claudia P]

My personal reason for going to primarily replaceable battery devices is the very fact that when the all in one battery device stops charging you have to just toss the whole device, it seems more economical in the long run to just replace the batteries. Another thing I am taking into consideration is the possibility that vape gear may become hard to find and we may start seeing PV's very hard to purchase. With the removable battery devices simply get new batteries and you are still in business.

It just seems to me to make more sense to buy sustainable devices rather than disposable ones. That said as long as possible I will have a few itazte or ego batteries around because they are easier to take on the go. Right now my primary PV's are a ProVari with a Trident clone RDA, a SID with either an Aspire ET-S or Vision Eternity RDA/RBA, or the VV V3 or ego. I am going to get another RDA or two, but not really sure at this point about a kayfun or other tank based RBA. I just prefer dripping at home and the Aspires for out and about, especially now that there is a video out that shows how to rebuild the Aspire heads.

I haven't decided about mech mods yet or whether I want to have anything to do with sub Ohm, I think not, but I know me too well to say for sure. I seem to remember not even wanting to read or hear about dripping and building coils or even rewicking, not to speak about ProVari or even the ego being too big.

Just wanted to pop in and say Good morning!

Also thanks to everybody on helping me wrap my mind around a bigger mod. I'm going to see if I can hit one of the B&Ms today to test drive some.

 

[twgbonehead]

Jim,

I'm envious. No way I could keep myself down to only 5 beers a day! ;-)

Ahhhh....best way to end the day

I allowed myself 5 today. Looks like I'm sticking with it.

 

[twgbonehead]

I got samples of various cigarette tobaccos. I'm going to extract them, figure out their nuances, and blend them to get the perfect net.

Loxmythe,

What's the recommended extraction method? I'm assuming you're going for flavor and WTA, not nicotine?

Back during the last FDA scare I was thinking about my tobacco-growing phase. While it's very easy to grow, it's much more difficult to cure it properly to get good flavor. At the time I was wondering whether uncured leaf would be good for both nic and wta extraction.

Unfortunately, looks like nic extraction is a non-starter, but how about wta?

 

[Karen N Daytona]

For that particular type of candleholder, you need to buy yourself a new mod every day, and always take your first drag from the one in the center position!

(Hope that wasn't too subtle...)

lol nope, not for me, you are too funny!

 

[twgbonehead]

My personal reason for going to primarily replaceable battery devices is the very fact that when the all in one battery device stops charging you have to just toss the whole device, it seems more economical in the long run to just replace the batteries. Another thing I am taking into consideration is the possibility that vape gear may become hard to find and we may start seeing PV's very hard to purchase. With the removable battery devices simply get new batteries and you are still in business.

It just seems to me to make more sense to buy sustainable devices rather than disposable ones.

I hear where you're coming from; I started with both an itasteVW and a couple of mech mods. I stopped using the mechs fairly quickly, for a couple of reasons.

First, I didn't get as consistent a vape from the mechs (probably because they were cheap FT mods). Getting a consistent connection to the battery seemed to be a problem. Hated taking a long drag and getting nothing!

Also, I found it very hard to keep track of which batts were charged, and which weren't. But that's mostly because I am very disorganized (and a friend of mine gave me a case of 100 18650's, long story). Had he only given me 3 I would probably have been better off.

Also, the ITaste's will work as passthrus, so even if the battery does die, I still hope I can use it as a VW device. If not, I'll open it up and try to replace the internal batteries, or use the parts for a custom mod (well, I can dream, can't I?) I did also get a bunch of VV passthrus from FT, so even if e-cigs become hard to get, I think i'll still be OK.

I don't think these are really less "sustainable" than external batteries (which also wear out). The batteries are the only piece that's particularly environmentally-unfriendly.

Not criticising at all, by the way, I'm just in chatty mode (having been deprived for the last 2 months!)

Mark