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doofy666

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You may larf :)

These are the scissors I bought and they are phenomenal. Professional Moustache Scissors and Beard Trimming Scissors, Extremely Sharp - Black: Amazon.co.uk: Beauty

Really precise cut even at the pointy bit. Streets ahead of what I was using before. Soon available at a vape shop near you at twice the price.

I'm finding wicking the goblin to be a bit challenging and it's nice to have good tools for the job. Had my goblin for 2 months now and still haven't got a build I'm happy with. I'm probably too much of a noob for this tank, but I'll get there one day...
 

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Doof, sorry totally 2mm NOT 2.5mm.
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Soak a bit and tuck and press wicks into channels
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Thread chimney on slowly, if it grabs back out and push that part back in. Then continue to thread on again slowly.
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And trim with your moustache scissors
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Works great. Using 50/50. Get bubbles everywhere, no leaks, no dry hits. If you get dry hits then you've over stuffed but, you don't want to go too light either. Give it a whirl. I've had great success with it.

Do a partial fill as to not waste liquid. If good, top it off. If you've got wicking issues you can either try using less cotton or poke a needle or some heavy gauge kanthal down each channel to make space for liquid/air exchange.

It's worked well for me and has been consistent. Hopefully others have the same success...
 
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Thanks for the pics and the update Eddie. Yes, 2mm feels better. I've been trying 2.4 mm, and stuffing the channels how you do was a no no. So now I'm on my 3rd tank of 2.4 with the wicks trimmed to about a quarter size running all the way down the channels. No flooding with 50/50 but I've lost a bit of flavour. When I get round to it i'll go back to 2 mm and really experiment with the amount of wick to run down the channels.

80/20 still doesn't work at all no matter how stuffed the channels. Major flooding. Big airflow, big juice channels: anyone here using 80pg/20vg successfully and care to share their build? Currently I'm giving up with 80/20 and am accepting Goblin as a 50/50 tank.

I wonder also about QC. Many have reported poor QC, and I wonder how performance shifts from tank to tank as errors creep in.

And don't get me started on the fill method. My fill screw leaked (note the past tense), but the fact that a syringe hits the bottom ring is pure design incompetence.
 

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Thanks for the pics and the update Eddie. Yes, 2mm feels better. I've been trying 2.4 mm, and stuffing the channels how you do was a no no. So now I'm on my 3rd tank of 2.4 with the wicks trimmed to about a quarter size running all the way down the channels. No flooding with 50/50 but I've lost a bit of flavour. When I get round to it i'll go back to 2 mm and really experiment with the amount of wick to run down the channels.

80/20 still doesn't work at all no matter how stuffed the channels. Major flooding. Big airflow, big juice channels: anyone here using 80pg/20vg successfully and care to share their build? Currently I'm giving up with 80/20 and am accepting Goblin as a 50/50 tank.

I wonder also about QC. Many have reported poor QC, and I wonder how performance shifts from tank to tank as errors creep in.

And don't get me started on the fill method. My fill screw leaked (note the past tense), but the fact that a syringe hits the bottom ring is pure design incompetence.

Ive used nothing but 80+VG in this. I basically just do a sloppy version of what Trevor Jones did in his video.

I've run about 30ml of 90vg through my current build. I can take pics later when its empty if you want/think it may help.

I've used up to 97vg in the goblin just fine.

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I too run mostly 80VG and higher through my Goblin. I've used both 2mm and currently 2.4mm wraps with good success in the .45-.55 ohm range. I keep the cotton trimmed with the edge of the deck and form a bowtie type wick before juicing it. I also trim my wicks to contour the edge of the deck. I find that having just a touch of wick in the top of the juice channel works best. I have even had success with no wick in the channels. Just resting on top of them.the

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You may larf :)

These are the scissors I bought and they are phenomenal. Professional Moustache Scissors and Beard Trimming Scissors, Extremely Sharp - Black: Amazon.co.uk: Beauty

Really precise cut even at the pointy bit. Streets ahead of what I was using before. Soon available at a vape shop near you at twice the price.

I'm finding wicking the goblin to be a bit challenging and it's nice to have good tools for the job. Had my goblin for 2 months now and still haven't got a build I'm happy with. I'm probably too much of a noob for this tank, but I'll get there one day...

lmao.....I finally just bought a good pair of scissors too....thanks for the link.....:)
 

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Ive used nothing but 80+VG in this. I basically just do a sloppy version of what Trevor Jones did in his video.

I've run about 30ml of 90vg through my current build. I can take pics later when its empty if you want/think it may help.

I've used up to 97vg in the goblin just fine.

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Think his leaking issue was with high PG...
 

doofy666

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Maybe 80pg simply doesn't work in this tank. I probably haven't got the fine motor skills to get a 3mm build in and 2mm and 2.4 mm is flood city.

I get leakage with 2 mm and 2.4 mm with 50/50 to such an extent that I leave the airflow ring off to protect my mod. Interestingly, leaving the ring off results in no leakage, whereas with it on leaks slowly accumulate between the ring and the atty and seep down onto the mod. I don't know why this could be.

My perception is that half airflow gives very similar performance to full airflow except that reducing airflow increases flavour slightly.

Last night was a bit silly - I chain vaped half a 4ml tank and got nic sick in 15 mins at 6mg. Back down to 2mm in the next few days looking for a build that doesn't leak/seep with a bit more flavour that I can keep the airflow ring on.

I'd happily pay twice as much for a tank with this airflow that I did not find to be this much work. Ho hum...
 

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Sounds like the Goliath may be for you.

Why?

The goliath has less air, larger juice channels, a smaller deck, and much lower juice capacity. And it's bigger. Seems to me like more work for less return.

During the day I vape a Kayfun V4 with the air extension kit which takes air up to 2.7mm. It's not the easiest of lung hits but its doable. At night, with a pint or 3 of cider down my neck I want a totally open draw with a massive lung hit. I get this from the Goblin. If this means I have to put up with the probs of the goblin then so be it.

At the moment I have an Evil Eye sat on my desk for the last week, but want to master the goblin before I go to it (and it doesn't have enough air) - seems no point to me to chase atty after atty for the perfect vape if I can't even master the goblin. Loads of people have a perfectly functioning goblin with no leaks so I don't see why I can't be amongst their number.
It doesn't bother me that my goblin won't vape 80/20 - just another variable to factor into the equation.

Ideally, yes - I want the reliability and versatility of the kayfun V4 coupled with the performance of the Goblin. But the goliath ain't going to give me that.
 

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Why?

The goliath has less air, larger juice channels, a smaller deck, and much lower juice capacity. And it's bigger. Seems to me like more work for less return.

During the day I vape a Kayfun V4 with the air extension kit which takes air up to 2.7mm. It's not the easiest of lung hits but its doable. At night, with a pint or 3 of cider down my neck I want a totally open draw with a massive lung hit. I get this from the Goblin. If this means I have to put up with the probs of the goblin then so be it.

At the moment I have an Evil Eye sat on my desk for the last week, but want to master the goblin before I go to it (and it doesn't have enough air) - seems no point to me to chase atty after atty for the perfect vape if I can't even master the goblin. Loads of people have a perfectly functioning goblin with no leaks so I don't see why I can't be amongst their number.
It doesn't bother me that my goblin won't vape 80/20 - just another variable to factor into the equation.

Ideally, yes - I want the reliability and versatility of the kayfun V4 coupled with the performance of the Goblin. But the goliath ain't going to give me that.

I'm guessing he suggested it for the juice flow control, which is a good suggestion for higher pg I would think. I'm still using higher VG in mine, so I have the juice flow wide open, I would think closing it off a bit would help for high PG.

FWIW, comparing the goblin and goliath side by side the difference in airflow is minimal, actually seems a bit airier on the goliath even though you wouldn't think so. With nearly the same build in both, 26g 2mm ID around .4ohm, the draw seems easier on the goliath. The slightly smaller air holes on the deck of the goliath seems to be negated by the larger chimney if that makes sense.

It has the same juice capacity as the goblin in its shorter mode, but is quite a bit taller, that is definitely true.

It is a lot easier to fill though with the juice flow, and easier to re wick if needed. The ease of filling with probably replace the goblin for me as my work RTA.

Build quality on mine is also better than both of my goblins. Goblin in short mode on a SMPL will still be my go to out n about setup for quick 2-3 hour trips.

I'm not saying you should run out and get the goliath if you have no interest in it, but it is definitely an airy lung hitting cloud chucking beast, same as the goblin. I like them both, a lot, but if I had to only have one I think I would choose the goliath. I really hate bottom fill, lol.

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Edit, after trying it a bit more on my 2nd goblin on that one the draw is slightly airier than my goliath, so it would seem its just the build that is in the other goblin that made it appear tighter, maybe that one has 2.4mm ID coils and not 2.0mm ID coils like I had thought. Either way, the difference is minimal between the two.
 
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doofy666

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The build deck isn't smaller than the Goblin.

A picture comparison between goliath and goblin earlier in this thread suggests that the goliath has a smaller deck than the goblin, that the goblin chimney fits over the goliath deck without touching the threads. Which is why I said the goliath has a smaller deck. I've not measured the pair of them :)

I had hopes for the goliath, that it might tempt me, but it doesn't. Money is tight, and though I would probably be prepared to throw a lot of it at something that I perceived to be a goblin competitor, the goliath is not it. As I said, Evil Eye tempts me, but I have yet to build it despite having it for a week.
I'm not tempted by a 3ml tank.

I'm on my third tank this evening and the fill system is really ...... me off. What gauge of syringe bypasses the bottom ring, and how on earth long does said syringe take to fill it on high vg? Let alone 50/50.

Ah well, it's late at night in the UK - 7.46 am to be precise, I've exceeded my usual cider quota, with Eddie's help I've got one of my best builds in the goblin and in the next few days I'll go back to 2 mm and perfect it :)
 
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