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Waddle

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Is there any operational difference between the split-wick technique and feathering the wick where you trim from the coil to the tip at an angle? It's interesting for sure, but it seems to achieve nearly the same with way more effort. Of course, most of us like to tinker and find enjoyment in taking our time to get the builds just right, so it's about even in the end. :)

I've found with my Orchids the feathering technique (Bow Tie) works best, split-wick with my Fogger and Aqua V2. But one thing I've learned is that effective wicking techniques are completely dependent on the viscosity of the juice you use and the device. In other words, what works for high PG liquid in one device might not work for high VG liquid in the same device..
 
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I’ve had the opportunity to rebuild the Goblin a few times over the past couple of days and continued to be impressed with the performance. It’s been giving me dripper-level performance with the capacity of a tank. I’ve been using a 1.7mm drill bit for wrapping the coil and that seems to strike the right balance between being big enough for wicking but not so big that fitting it onto the deck is problematic.

I’ve yet to get a dry hit using 80VG/20PG juice and I’m not being all that fussy with wick placement. Just poking them down into the well (once the chimney base is screwed on) and leaving it at that. No problems with flooding either. Either I’ve been lucky, or UD figured out how to make a RTA that even I can’t screw up.

Tried a build with rayon, but didn’t like it as much as cotton. I’ll be sticking with cotton for this even though I use rayon in other tanks.

The biggest problem I’m having is filling it. I’m using a very thin gauge needle, but I still have to fill it VERY slowly to allow air to come out. More often than not I’ll get some juice that’s forced out of the fill hole while I’m filling it.

I thought the UD T5 and T7 were a pain to fill, but this is even worse. The performance and air flow make it worth the trouble, but still, I'd like to be able to fill it without as much fuss. Anyone have any tips for mess and swear-free filling techniques when using thick juices?
 

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@hazozita

Any chance you can top fill with the Goblin? With my Orchids I top fill over the sink like a Kayfun, give it a good blow upside down, rinse off the liquid and she's ready to go. No leaking.

Wish I could, Waddle, but the glass is floating (just rests on a top and bottom o-ring, and is held in place with the top/bottom sections). Don't see how a top fill would be workable.
 

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Looking at that build it looks like it really stuffs the deck. How is the airflow with that build? Seems like it would reduce it quite drastically.

Thats before its trimmed, I rushed out of the house and the last two pics didnt save to my phone so when I went to upload they werent there.Ill upload the other pics tonight. If you were to use it like in those pics it would reduce airflow quite a bit and get a lot of juice in your mouth.
 

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Heres the rest of the pics.

Okay so after the last pic on page 12, give the cotton a hair cut. You want to reduce the mass of the shoulders to the point of reducing as much airflow blockage as possible while still retaining as much as you can without blocking air or causing spitback. This is the perfect medium ive found.
Keep in mind you only need to wick like this if you are going to run high wattage and take long pulls! If you are running under 35w you dont need the shoulders, just wick into the channels.
With this setup I am running 60 watts and able to take long drags without dry hits starting.
The only reason for the shoulders is to compensate for low wick mass at 2.4mm.
I have gotten zero flooding with this build.

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I've found with my Orchids the feathering technique (Bow Tie) works best, split-wick with my Fogger and Aqua V2. But one thing I've learned is that effective wicking techniques are completely dependent on the viscosity of the juice you use and the device. In other words, what works for high PG liquid in one device might not work for high VG liquid in the same device..

Good info, my Aqua clones will be here tomorrow.
Sorry, I forgot to mention that I prefer 70% VG and up, so that's perfect. Thanks for the reply. :)
 

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I hope this isn't a common problem... I have an issue that requires super-max VG joose. That stuff is so thick that 2.5mm is about the only size that doesn't char cotton almost immediately the way I chain vape
I don't think it's going to be a problem personally. I went heavy with the wick since a lot of folks were really stuffing the channels and now I'm dialing it back to what works. I trimmed some wick and cut the juice to 50/50 more or less and it's vaping quite nicely at 25 Watts.

ETA - Wow, this thing really runs through the juice when it's on but the nic hit is in keeping with the speed it's going through juice. 3 ml of juice goes real fast.
 
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I don't think it's going to be a problem personally. I went heavy with the wick since a lot of folks were really stuffing the channels and now I'm dialing it back to what works. I trimmed some wick and cut the juice to 50/50 more or less and it's vaping quite nicely at 25 Watts.

This makes a lot of sense. I find the more viscous my juice the less cotton I need to fill the channels. The key word here is "fill" not "stuff".
 

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Good info, my Aqua clones will be here tomorrow.
Sorry, I forgot to mention that I prefer 70% VG and up, so that's perfect. Thanks for the reply. :)

You will like the Aqua V2, every body does :) The only two things I don't like are that 1) the tank wobbles, supposedly partially remedied with an o-ring change, and 2) the acrylic tank. A lot of my flavours are tank crackers. But I find it never leaks or gets dry hits once you learn to wick it properly (i.e. split wicks).

Hope you enjoy it immensely.
 

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So far only vendor I could find was Triangle Vape.. they are sold out. I want one. Don't care what it costs. Anyone know of another vendor??

I hear ya... not concerned about the cost. but, I NEED one :) woulda thought more than one vendor would be carrying them by now!
 
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