ZFM Zero Filler Mod

[eclypse]

OK, here is another one Ive been toying with, Im getting really good results with this one too.. if you look at the top of the plug you will see a Very small V cut in to let air in I also found a pen that punches a slightly smaller hole so there is no flooding, However I pulled on it as hard as I could and it did flood but normal hits are really good and emptys the cart... its more consistant then before.. the V cut is smaller then it looks in the picture I had to angle the camera to stop the flash from blinding out the plug..

Let me help ya guys out.. Heres a hint. Think real good about a infant sippy cup.

 

[SCOTTYBALLS]

Let me help ya guys out.. Heres a hint. Think real good about a infant sippy cup.

I understand the whole vacume thing...

 

[Stehle]

Let me help ya guys out.. Heres a hint. Think real good about a infant sippy cup.

I'll have to add the "sippy cup" to the list.

Looks like a great improvement in your updated model SCOTTYBALLS

 

[eclypse]

hehe.. dont know if you guys are getting it or not.. i'm talking about the little intake hole in the sippy cup. Without it the juice will not flow out the mouth end. Meaning.. PUT A FREAKIN SMALL HOLE IN THE PLUG!.. Well do it like they do so it wont leak but open when under pressure. Large hole but not all the way through and then take a seriously tiny pin and poke a hole in the center of the divit! hehe. if it dont work make the hole a little larger till it does.. get that done and you got your self a product. Though i have a feeling there already working on it.

 

[SCOTTYBALLS]

hehe.. dont know if you guys are getting it or not.. i'm talking about the little intake hole in the sippy cup. Without it the juice will not flow out the mouth end. Meaning.. PUT A FREAKIN SMALL HOLE IN THE PLUG!.. Well do it like they do so it wont leak but open when under pressure. Large hole but not all the way through and then take a seriously tiny pin and poke a hole in the center of the divit! hehe. if it dont work make the hole a little larger till it does.. get that done and you got your self a product. Though i have a feeling there already working on it.

Most of mine flow just fine without a hole eclypes.. putting a hole in the resivor somwhere is just going to make a beer .... of ejuice... I understand what you are saying and Im sure most pepole here understand that to its not rocket science.. I want some vacume to stay in the cart so it dose not leak.. Im working with wicking not bonging

EDIT.. HEHE !

 

[eclypse]

Most of mine flow just fine without a hole eclypes.. putting a hole in the resivor somwhere is just going to make a beer .... of ejuice... I understand what you are saying and Im sure most pepole here understand that to its not rocket science.. I want some vacume to stay in the cart so it dose not leak.. Im working with wicking not bonging

EDIT.. HEHE !

heh np.. I've not tried it myself so you may be right.

 

[orlampagal]

Ok this is my first mod, so bare with me.

I used the silicon cupcake thingies mentioned about 30 pages ago (lol)

I did a single layer (was cursing for a half hour because the little red silicon cutouts kept flying out of my hands) I used a phillips head screwdriver to punch a hole through it (left a tiny hole) and so far so good. It is my understanding that the atty bridge pushing on it actually releases just enough liquid. It's perfect. The great thing about these silicon cupcake thingies is that they are dirt cheap (2.50) at target in the little bargain thing in the front. They produce millions of little plugs and like it was said earlier... you can color code the plugs.

this totally fixes my problem of having to refill the carts while driving which of course is dangerous and annoying when you spill and get drips of liquid all over the place. It also seemed to help my leaky cart / atty problem.

Thanks Scot, it's a terrific idea. Would you be interested in taking a look at my usb passthru (510) The wire got disconnected from the "batt" part of it. I ordered a new one and as a precaution, covered it with tape for this reason.

 

[Guitarslinger]

Two following plugs I've made keep leaking liquid into the vents and mouthpiece, even the one with the smaller hole. It's not flooding the atty though?? I wonder if it's because the side pieces of the cap are curved? It's frustrating because the first plug is still working like a champ!!

I kinda noticed the same thing-the first one I did was cut from the flat portion (top/bottom?) of the cap, and the next 2 I made I cut from the sides I had left over (didn't have many spare caps). The first one works far better, imo, tho the other 2 aren't too bad.

 

[Bella Chic]

I followed the directions, used the exacto knife to cut right along the rim of the cart, then cut a *, with longer slits going from the long curved edges and diagonally to allow for a slightly larger opening. No puncture in the center. I figured that because of the thickness of the silicone even with the atty pushing down on the silicone, it might not open up well enough by making a perfect *. Seems to work pretty darn well... Obviously the laws of physics do kick in slightly with the liquid and drainage, but it doesn't leak at all, and is completely sealed and closed when the cart is removed. I do have to shake the ecig with the cart in, particularly when the liquid begins to get low due to the air pocket and negative pressure. But as far as I can tell, I just did this today, and so far I've gone through 3 full carts with no loss of liquid whatsoever (minus the buildup of reliquidfied vapor on the vents of the cart). Example of cuts below: (510 cart)

Thanks for sharing that...it helps a lot...I've gotta brave trying this. I've only had my 510 for 3 days now but I am loving it!

 

[kristin]

I kinda noticed the same thing-the first one I did was cut from the flat portion (top/bottom?) of the cap, and the next 2 I made I cut from the sides I had left over (didn't have many spare caps). The first one works far better, imo, tho the other 2 aren't too bad.

Yeah, I think the sides of the cart are not only curved, they are thinner material. The top of the cap is just thick enough to resist the pressure from the bridge.

 

[eclypse]

Last night i finally give this a go per the original instructions with a straw. I used a 1/4" Diameter straw and it basicly hugs the inside of the cart. For the cap i used a hole in the middle and then just the star pattern.

With my cut open atty and cart i used as a model, i made sure the straw and cap were at the perfect level so the bridge just slightly opens the plug.

Yeah it leaks a little.. BUT, works awesomely for HV! And thats currently what i need it for.

Also.. sometimes i had to snap my wrist downward to get the juice to flow if it seemed dry and that worked ok. May just be cause of the thick juice i was using.

So its got some flaws that need to be addressed.. but its got some obvious promise.

Thanks Scotty!

 

[HippyGirl]

I wish I had a camera but mine is dead. I'll elaboarte but it's not really working well. It looks perfect and should be working!! I simply used the Silicone Sealer and put some into the end of a cart. When it was set, I took it out and sliced it to a thickness about the same as a cart cap. The benefit of doing it this way, I thought, was that it is a perfect fit when used with a straw to support it. If I push tweezers into the center I can see the juice come through. It just doesn't seem to feed my atty. Like every other cart mod I've tried, it seems, for me at least, to be hit and miss. My thinking is that we need to find a way to make something that is easy to duplicate and works every time. I think silicone is the answer but it's not repeatable enough. We'll get it right, just not tonight.

The problem with the silicone is that it shrinks slightly as it cures.

I made a "sheet" by smoothing out a puddle of GE Silicone II to a smidge over 1.5mm (same thickness as the top of the 510 cart caps). When it was just past tacky, I inserted a cut cart into it and allowed it to set for another hour or so. I removed it and had a PERFECT plug. After it cured, however, it was slightly too small and was too loose in the cart.

So, back to the initial problem...making accurate cuts from some sort of sheet.

 

[Cherice]

I got the DAP Household silicone as someone had suggested. Took a 901 cart and cut the top off. Filled it with silicone and let it set up on a piece of wax paper. Popped out the silicone plug, then used a razor blade to make slices (like bread). Finished it off with a hole in the center. Perfect fit...

 

[smonomo]

I'm using the cart I have with the silicone cap glued to the top of the cart, I have a good sized gash running almost all the way across the short side of the cart (801) ...The hits are all I can handle!

I have another cart with a 2-3mm moulded plug sitting on top of a wide diameter spring flush to top of cart, I can push it up and down like a piston, which I love for easy filling. I have a hole in this plug, I tried to add a slit but the blade slipped and I cut all the way across on one side. I tried it anyway, and it's working the same as the glued model. I'm going to make another one and this time take my time making the slit, I think the botched one could be a problem down the road.

Ideally I'd like to use a stainless spring moulded into the silicone to make it all one piece. If you drop one of these plugs good luck finding it again

 

[the86d]

*: That is how I have been doing all of mine, even the first.

I am having problems when the plug is perfect...

Imperfections in the sides allow air flow. My first was GREAT... buy now I am screwing myself by not having air holes (or imperfections, the reason my first worked so well and all the rest were issues).

 

[the86d]

Anyone try a +? Not an X, nor an *.

I just did and it is PLUMING CLOUDS PERFECT! (Gonna test leak factor!)

A+ so far...

 

[smonomo]

I had the + cut on my very first one, great hits, but leaky due to a bad fit and the plug tilting too much, the thicker plug is less likely to tilt.

 

[jj2]

I'm using the cart I have with the silicone cap glued to the top of the cart,

I didn't think glue would stick to silicone?

 

[eclypse]

Last night i finally give this a go per the original instructions with a straw. I used a 1/4" Diameter straw and it basicly hugs the inside of the cart. For the cap i used a hole in the middle and then just the star pattern.

With my cut open atty and cart i used as a model, i made sure the straw and cap were at the perfect level so the bridge just slightly opens the plug.

Yeah it leaks a little.. BUT, works awesomely for HV! And thats currently what i need it for.

Also.. sometimes i had to snap my wrist downward to get the juice to flow if it seemed dry and that worked ok. May just be cause of the thick juice i was using.

So its got some flaws that need to be addressed.. but its got some obvious promise.

Thanks Scotty!

Damnit! Just killed another atty. I guess i need more experiance with HV! heh. Had the thing sitting for a long while and grabed it and had a nastey dry hit. Opened it up and it was dry ofcourse.. filled it up and it was already too late.. the damn atty reads 13ohms.. 8-o I guess i gota be more carefull.

 

[Bella Chic]

Ok, so I just did this mod, but a lil different and it's workin good for me so far. I cut the straw a lil shorter than the 15mm stated but I did not use the top of the cap. I used the thicker side parts. Just cut it as close as possible to the opening size. I took pointy tweezers the pocked a whole one way and then pocked a whole another way, making a small x. I put the straw in, filled with juice and put the silicone plug in place, pocking the corners into the sides. Put this on my atty and it seems to be working great, no leakage when I take a pull, not leakage when it's lying horizontally on my desk or anything like that. I figured the thicker silicone sides would work better than the thin top of the covers. Hope this helps someone a lil bit.

Gina