List of vendors Age Verification requirements.

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tmcase

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Hope customers are giving feedback to the vendors.
Seems there are some better options for AV.
If a vendor knows why they are losing business, they may find another solution.

An easy way to do this and what I have been doing is replying to the email that I get from vendors that are having sales. If they are on the list as having some invasive AV, I say "I would love to take advantage of your sales but I can't until you change to a less invasive AV." It worked with Eciggity and they were happy for the feedback and gave us the option of signature delivery.
 

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May I ask a favor of those who have been participating in this thread:
Of all the various means and services by which vendors are using to verify age, which FDA compliant one do you generally find most acceptable? Seems most of them are a pain at best and untrustworthy at worst.

I can only speak for myself but I think the best service is Veratad because they search public records to verify your age but some vendors that are using Veratad have added additional verification requirements. Those I will avoid. The best thing to do if you have a favorite vendor is call or email and ask them what they require to verify age.
 

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I can only speak for myself but I think the best service is Veratad because they search public records to verify your age but some vendors that are using Veratad have added additional verification requirements. Those I will avoid. The best thing to do if you have a favorite vendor is call or email and ask them what they require to verify age.
Why would a vendor add additional requirements beyond what Veratad accomplishes? Is there a hole that Veratad doesn't fill?
 

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May I ask a favor of those who have been participating in this thread:
Of all the various means and services by which vendors are using to verify age, which FDA compliant one do you generally find most acceptable? Seems most of them are a pain at best and untrustworthy at worst.

I haven't decided yet. I won't be putting in an order with any vendor
this month (vape vendor) and will just continue to ponder this. Not
sure how much info I want to give them, but prob would have no issue
with Veritad.
 

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...... Is there a hole that Veratad doesn't fill?

Veratad has been providing age verification services to online tobacco retailers for well over a decade and is one of the oldest most experienced online age/identity verification services available. Their service provides vendors with legal compliance under current laws and they do this discreetly -without- storing personal information or sharing/selling personal information to third parties. I make NETs and purchase the tobacco they're made with from the same online pipe tobacco & cigar vendors I used back when I "smoked", I've been under Veratad's "scrutiny" since their inception and have zero problems or complaints. In most circumstances Veratad only needs a person's name and address to provide age verification that meets current legal requirements, however, they do allow vendors to set more stringent approval rules than what the law actually requires...

Why would a vendor add additional requirements beyond what Veratad accomplishes? .......

The problem is most vendors haven't got a clue as to what's really required under the law or who to trust for handling age compliance issues. In their confusion many vendors decided that need-it-or-not the more information they collect the better protected from liability they'd be which holds true unless your customer base proves highly reluctant to submitting unnecessary sensitive personal information (like I am) and ceases doing business with you.

Some vendors have chosen to use verification services that intentionally sensationalize/exaggerate the legal requirements for verifying age in order to justify collecting unnecessary personal information which they store and then share/sell to third parties (direct marketing), a practice that makes $$$ at "both ends". One only has to read each verification company's privacy policy to figure out who's honest and more importantly who's not.

One thing that's obvious is many vendors didn't invest much time, effort or research into preparing for this the easiest of FDA requirements headed their way. Certainly doesn't instill confidence in their ability to pass the more complicated, technically difficult and arduous tasks that lie ahead. Personally, I view this like a crude yardstick to identify which vendors have the business savvy to survive beyond 2018, from where I sit -that list is pretty short-. Of course the FDA may have already set the bar so high ($$$) none could succeed anyway, only time will tell.
 
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