MTL mid term comparison kayfun 5 with mtl kit with the squape x dream with sc deck both with 0,4 mm kanthal, 2,5 mm coil at 0,75 ohm and 20W on the mods - my personal experience and opinions:
Really hard to say which one is better! Experience is different at each one! I don't regret spending so much money for both of them!
General:
- Both high quality finish and good materials except k5 packing.
- The k5 is much quieter! The squape has the air hole directly to the coil so popping sound comes right out.
- The K5 gets much hotter at chain-vaping - the chimney gets hot, it warms up the liquid and at the end the whole thing is hot. The squape x dream gets very hot on the air flow ring but the rest stays pretty cool
- The squape gives a cooler vape on 2 air holes then k5 so warmer vape on k5. If you want warmer vape on squape you can set to 1 air hole instead of 2 - only with sc deck, and you get about as hot vape as k5.
- Taste - after more liquids - the taste different is on each of them for the same liquid! Hard to say that one tastes better then the other! The squape gives the impression that it tastes better but actually you can smell better the out coming vapour. The taste has the same strength but with different nuances. The k5 gives a smoother fuller taste the squape gives an edging and more aggressive taste. Difference is like between an SUV and a sports car.
Juice to the coil - a big story
- The vaping experience is much more constant at squape. It feeds constantly the perfect amount of juice to the coil. No flooding or dry hits if cool or hot.
- The liquid control at k5 is a real struggle - either too much or too less. The juice gets hot and thinner because of the chimney, after continuous usage, and it starts to flood the coil. It gets cool after a pause you might get dry hit or doll taste. You have to constantly adjust it.
- Even so, I cough very often from the squape; from k5 almost never! K5 had at me also a 2 months accommodation time while the squape 2 days
- From time to time (not often) k5 spits a liquid drop in my mouth (usually when it gets hot). Squape x not so far!
- When liquid gets low in the tank the k5 is more sensitive then squape and I must play even more with liquid control. Squape just goes constant until the tank is empty.
- At my devices cotton holds about 2-3 times more vaping by squape compared to k5 until they get same colour.
Juice consumption
- Because of the better feeding the squape seems a just a little better then k5 but I think it's premature to issue an oppinion about this.
Deck building:
- coil attaching very easy at both! Maybe just a little easier at squape
- cotton change is easier on K5 and also faster. On squape with sc deck you have to dismount the coil, arrange the deck with cotton, mount the coil back then put cotton trough the coil and arrange it.
- cotton check with filled tank - better, faster and easier at squape. At k5 it also looses the pressure inside and when you mount it back on if it's not full it floods the coil. By half tank you have to open liquid controll gradually after a deck checking.
- squape offers dual coil with the standard deck k5 not even as option
- coil leg power loss and generally power loss is higher at k5. To get about same ohms I have an half turn more at the squape and resistance is still a little bit lower - about 0,02 ohm lower.
- cotton setup is more forgiving at squape. Just put cotton in the deck and in the coil and it works. At k5 is more artwork to get it right!
Air:
- k5 with the largest mtl pin has a decent tight draw for mtl. Tight enough for me - almost too tight; and on 1 hole without mtl pin I feel it too loose
- at squape you have continuous air flow adjustment but if you set it as tight as by k5 with the pin the ring gets quite hot so the tendency is to let it more airy but the much smaller and tighter drip tip of the squape make the more airy adjustment pleasurable.
Leacking:
- with the correct cotton setting and well lubed o-rings seems that none leaks or sweats. Had 2-3 occasions where I have seen 2-3 liquid drops around AFC ring by squape but at the beginning I have seen a lot by k5 too so I think that soon I solve this as I did by k5.
- Haven't tried to cary any of them in my pocket with open liquid control any more after my k5 flooded my jacket when I had the o-ring problems.
Operation:
- everything is quicker at squape - liquid open, access to deck, closing liquid to put in the pocket.
- with good lubing both operate very smooth and precise. Haven't had any blockage with any of them!
- Squape closes simultaneously air flow and liquid so when you are with your mid somewhere else there is no risk to vape with liquid off (to smoke cotton) while by k5 there is
Clouds:
Same at same setup
Customer support
- Stattqualm: online support very nice and helpful for every question
- Svoemesto: no online support, doesn't answer to e-mails, zero support! Pray you don't have a problem!!! - big disappointment, especially as I know german language and wrote them directly in they'r own language. Sent e-mail 10 days ago and reminder and no answer. I got the receiving mail confirmation but no answer. - UPDATE - JUST RECEIVED AN ANSWER
Prices and accessories:
- Squape x more expensive and all accessories very expensive. Limited range of accessories but they have 2 decks for single and for dual coil
- k5 has the mtl kit on the other hand which makes the AFC quite useless but sets the airflow just right
- k5 spare parts are easier to find on stock locally if something goes wrong
- squape is 100 times better packed then k5. As many others I received my k5 with broken glass tank. Squape has a hard box that protects it very well. K5 has 2 chinese-like thin carton boxes - one with k5 with the SS tank and one with a broken glass tank! Maybe if it came with the glass tank mounted it wouldn't arrive broken as often! The SS k5 tank is pretty much useless because you can't see the juice level and to open top cap to look with a flashlight for liquid level is ...., so you end up buying a new glass tank as me - which brings the k5 purchasing price closer to squape price.
Conclusion:
- hate the squape for making me cough so much - SOLVED - air set to only 1 air hole trough the deck, and fully open; not directly to the coil. The end of the air hole from SC deck has just a small round hole at the end so it is just right for MTL. It also becomes much quieter! No more coughing.
- hate the k5 for spitting in my mouth from time to time and when this happens during a pop its really annoying
- at this price level Svoemesto could afford a better packing and a little bit of customer support.
- still love them both
- still feel to use both and sometimes at the same time
- k5 goes well during movies or in the bed, squape goes better while drinking - coffee, beer, etc
- you shouldn't get both because you will vape double as much just trying to see which is the best!
I hope I covered all aspects!
