Just to collate general methods for flavor extraction from tobacco in this new subgroup, I am pasting in my original post of my method. It is unlikely that this VG extraction will obtain significant quantities of nic...this is a flavor recipe, not an e-juice recipe. Since it is a flavor-only extraction method, this recipe is not exact in amounts, but in the future I will post exact amounts and outcomes. That is when I use up or get tired of the essence I have made...and this stuff lasts a long time.
My original post for Pipe tobacco Essence:
I should say up front I am in general not a fan of tobacco flavored juices. Tried several and didn't like any of them much. This pipe tobacco essence is to me delicious and very useful as a flavor on its own and with other flavors.
What you need:
A 10-12 mL syringe
A cotton ball
A small sauce pan
A stove, preferably gas for better heat control
VG, about 30 mL
Pipe tobacco...I used Stanwell Melange for one and a bulk cherry tobacco for another. Two heaping table spoons is about what I used, but I didn't really measure closely.
Dropper bottles
Put the VG in the pan, and bring it to just boiling with some visible bubbles rising. Remove from the heat and add the tobacco, swirling it around to soak all of it. Put it back on very low heat and bring it slowly back up to just simmering (a couple bubbles but not lots of boiling). Let it simmer for 30 seconds, then remove from heat, cover, and let it sit overnight.
The mix will be very dark the next day. Heat it up a bit to get it flowing, then decant the liquid into the syringe with the cotton ball shoved down into the bottom. The cotton will act as a filter. The liquid will look like dark honey. Fill the syringe and put the plunger in, and press the liquid through the cotton into a dropper bottle. You can press liquid out of the tobacco in the pan, so it flows to one side, then decant this into the syringe as well, and press it through the cotton into the dropper bottle. 30 mL of VG made for me about 20 mL of liquid, with the rest held by the tobacco, which did not press out. I avoided really squeezing the liquid out to minimize any vegetable matter in the liquid.
This liquid is likely very low in nic or the other alkaloids, but it is huge with flavor. This liquid, which I call pipe tobacco essense, is a VG-based flavoring now. I like it at about 30% in a juice I make with unflavored nic juice and distilled water to thin, but my favorite way to have this essence is to put a few drops in my cart, then a few drops of a high-nic juice I make with Capella Caramel, then a few drops of essence and a few drops of the caramel juice. This is easily the most satisfying juice I make, even without nic. One could vape it straight, which is really excellent, but it is thick and best thinned a bit. I dedicate an atty/cart for it as I have found tobacco juices do require more atty-cleaning than most other juices, and the flavor is quite rich.
I've had others try it that are familiar with my mixes, and everyone says this is the best one I've made. I find it really relaxing and so very very satisfying that I am wondering if the hot VG is actually getting the alkaloids out. The chemistry says I shouldn't be, but no juice I make makes me forget to smoke as well as this one. Perhaps the deep sweet tobacco flavor is creating an effective illusion. Regardless, I absolutely adore this essence.
YMMV with relative amounts of VG and tobacco, but both are cheap, and its really hard to go wrong with this. I have not experimented much with relative amounts or cook-time...my first batch was so good with this recipe that I've just been vaping it, and a little goes a very long way.
Hope other DIYers try this and love it too!
Update: The PTE I made a few weeks ago is still stable at room temp. There is no sign of mold or bug growth. The flavor has deepened. When making e-juices from this, I simply use it as though it is pure VG, and make the juice with unflavored VG nic juice and about 20% distilled water. Think of it as making an unflavored VG nic juice from high-nic VG nic, but in stead of diluting with VG, you use PTE. It is so good!!
Another thing I do with PTE is this: in my 510 cart, which uses AquaClear foam as a filler, I add a couple drops of straight PTE to the cart, then a couple drops of another "normal" e-juice, like a caramel juice, then a couple drops of PTE, then the other juice, etc, until it is filled. This will thin the very thick PTE, and bring in another flavor that goes well of the particular pipe tobacco flavor. For the Stanwell Melange PTE I made several flavors meld well with it: caramel, maple, fruits (PA blueberry is great).
I think thinning it with a little vodka or PGA would be excellent for many here...it would open the PTE flavors even more, no doubt. I do not vape alcohols for several personal reasons, but many do, and this would I think enhance the flavors a lot.
Warning: like other tobacco juices, PTE can make your atty sluggish, like from particulates that are very hard to filter out completely. I suggest dedicating an atty to it, and clean the atty every few days if this is the case for you.
My original post for Pipe tobacco Essence:
I should say up front I am in general not a fan of tobacco flavored juices. Tried several and didn't like any of them much. This pipe tobacco essence is to me delicious and very useful as a flavor on its own and with other flavors.
What you need:
A 10-12 mL syringe
A cotton ball
A small sauce pan
A stove, preferably gas for better heat control
VG, about 30 mL
Pipe tobacco...I used Stanwell Melange for one and a bulk cherry tobacco for another. Two heaping table spoons is about what I used, but I didn't really measure closely.
Dropper bottles
Put the VG in the pan, and bring it to just boiling with some visible bubbles rising. Remove from the heat and add the tobacco, swirling it around to soak all of it. Put it back on very low heat and bring it slowly back up to just simmering (a couple bubbles but not lots of boiling). Let it simmer for 30 seconds, then remove from heat, cover, and let it sit overnight.
The mix will be very dark the next day. Heat it up a bit to get it flowing, then decant the liquid into the syringe with the cotton ball shoved down into the bottom. The cotton will act as a filter. The liquid will look like dark honey. Fill the syringe and put the plunger in, and press the liquid through the cotton into a dropper bottle. You can press liquid out of the tobacco in the pan, so it flows to one side, then decant this into the syringe as well, and press it through the cotton into the dropper bottle. 30 mL of VG made for me about 20 mL of liquid, with the rest held by the tobacco, which did not press out. I avoided really squeezing the liquid out to minimize any vegetable matter in the liquid.
This liquid is likely very low in nic or the other alkaloids, but it is huge with flavor. This liquid, which I call pipe tobacco essense, is a VG-based flavoring now. I like it at about 30% in a juice I make with unflavored nic juice and distilled water to thin, but my favorite way to have this essence is to put a few drops in my cart, then a few drops of a high-nic juice I make with Capella Caramel, then a few drops of essence and a few drops of the caramel juice. This is easily the most satisfying juice I make, even without nic. One could vape it straight, which is really excellent, but it is thick and best thinned a bit. I dedicate an atty/cart for it as I have found tobacco juices do require more atty-cleaning than most other juices, and the flavor is quite rich.
I've had others try it that are familiar with my mixes, and everyone says this is the best one I've made. I find it really relaxing and so very very satisfying that I am wondering if the hot VG is actually getting the alkaloids out. The chemistry says I shouldn't be, but no juice I make makes me forget to smoke as well as this one. Perhaps the deep sweet tobacco flavor is creating an effective illusion. Regardless, I absolutely adore this essence.
YMMV with relative amounts of VG and tobacco, but both are cheap, and its really hard to go wrong with this. I have not experimented much with relative amounts or cook-time...my first batch was so good with this recipe that I've just been vaping it, and a little goes a very long way.
Hope other DIYers try this and love it too!
Update: The PTE I made a few weeks ago is still stable at room temp. There is no sign of mold or bug growth. The flavor has deepened. When making e-juices from this, I simply use it as though it is pure VG, and make the juice with unflavored VG nic juice and about 20% distilled water. Think of it as making an unflavored VG nic juice from high-nic VG nic, but in stead of diluting with VG, you use PTE. It is so good!!
Another thing I do with PTE is this: in my 510 cart, which uses AquaClear foam as a filler, I add a couple drops of straight PTE to the cart, then a couple drops of another "normal" e-juice, like a caramel juice, then a couple drops of PTE, then the other juice, etc, until it is filled. This will thin the very thick PTE, and bring in another flavor that goes well of the particular pipe tobacco flavor. For the Stanwell Melange PTE I made several flavors meld well with it: caramel, maple, fruits (PA blueberry is great).
I think thinning it with a little vodka or PGA would be excellent for many here...it would open the PTE flavors even more, no doubt. I do not vape alcohols for several personal reasons, but many do, and this would I think enhance the flavors a lot.
Warning: like other tobacco juices, PTE can make your atty sluggish, like from particulates that are very hard to filter out completely. I suggest dedicating an atty to it, and clean the atty every few days if this is the case for you.
