2nd Edition Cartomizers - Won't sell to US now !!!

[badkolo]

I've been vaping for 6 months on the 510 and mega 510 mostly dripping, I have had these for 2 days. I have been pushing the boundaries on one have filled it 7 times already, still tastes like when I pulled it out of the blister pack. I have not been kind to it, I taste no burning material, wicks quickly and easily. refilling is less of a chore than dripping except for getting the second plug off initially. The contacts on some of them don't hit unless you put them on there tight. Other than having to carry a pry tool in my kit these are better than any atty I have had as of yet.

Im so happy to hear they are working for you , gives me hope, have you tried more then one, to see if your experience is consistent to a point.

Also if you dont mind me asking what kind of juice are you using.
have you tried the condom method for refilling by any chance.

 

[mister kil]

Im so happy to hear they are working for you , gives me hope, have you tried more then one, to see if your experience is consistent to a point.

Also if you dont mind me asking what kind of juice are you using.
have you tried the condom method for refilling by any chance.

I've tried 5 and they seem consistent
edit- I am using dekang - 555 vg, Hilton vg, Virginia vg, Dunhill peg
Ecopure
Home brews
and yes the twirl works

 

[BanjoMan]

mister kil you might have mentioned it earlier but are you using these with a 510 batt? Just wondering if the lower voltage might be the reason you haven't had any burning issues...

 

[BanjoMan]

Got mine in today, been vaping on the same 510 carto for 8 hours on my 510 mega, no refill yet, and I puff like a chimney. Much better flavor than carts or dripping, great fog production. I don't understand what all the bad hullabaloo is but I shall see after I try a second one. This is my first experience with carto's and I am way more than pleased.

Just found this. The 510 mega batt might be making the difference. Possible good news for the stick users, possible bad news for my Bartleby.

 

[badkolo]

mister kil you might have mentioned it earlier but are you using these with a 510 batt? Just wondering if the lower voltage might be the reason you haven't had any burning issues...

im wondering the same thing, if thats the case these cartos will shine on those types of batts plus rivas egos vgos and hello batteries and titan auto battery run on that lower voltage plus pulse mod.

im starting to think that is the case, and then i can see why v4l dropped them, while they might be great for some batts and at 3.7, they arent good enough yet for higher volts and for powerful mods and heavy vapors.

it so hard to judge when going by what works for others and what dont.

 

[br5495]

I asked Mark about the eGo voltage on a different thread. His reply just stated that they had tested the 510, as if I didn't already know that. Later on, someone else asked him about the eGo voltage. He did not address it then, either.

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[naviathan]

That's because the eGo runs at the same voltage as the 510, it just lasts longer.

 

[v1John]

Well I really want to try them, and I don't know of a supplier here in the states who has them. Does the shipping cost that the e-liquid cn shopping cart quote me
cover the entire shipping cost? I hope so, I loaded my shopping cart with lots and lots of things and the whole thing is still under 100 dollars shipped, if I understood it. It said there is only one shipping option available for me, so I really don't know which carrier to expect.

 

[Craymar]

Aileen said all orders from last week will ship tomorow the 17th.

The order I placed on Sunday showed shipped today!!!

 

[mwa102464]

Posted by Zoidman and so True..!!!!

No problem… Sometimes soapboxes need to be jumped on. I’ll jump on one right now Myself.

Don’t misunderstand my post. I am all for new product development and improvements in Cartomizer design. But having a background in manufacturing I also understand the need for design review and testing.

It is exceedingly rare, I should say all most impossible, that a new product can go from a design state to a finished product in one step. Unforeseen Design flaws, Manufacturing problems and cost overruns force a product to be revised only to sometimes discover new issues. This process of redesign and remanufacture take time and costs money.

Unfortunately, I don’t think CE2 Cartomizers are a Finished product. I see them more as a work in progress. But someone seems to have a warehouse full of them and a lot of money to gain, or lose, if they are not brought to market.

I can only go by what scraps of information I can glean from sources with diverse interests in these cartomizers as to if it is something I would like to try. At this time, I do not. Does that imply that I would Never consider trying a new design Cartomizer? No, it does not.

I am concerned with what goes on inside any type of nicotine delivery system. My choice to use an e-Cig is more of the choice between the lesser of two evils.

But my Biggest concern is Quality Control and The sale of unbranded e-Cig products.

Who makes these Cartomizers that I attach to my eGo? They have no Trademarks. They come Unbranded. Some don’t even come in a Box. What manufacture standards were they produced under? What Materials were used? What Quality Control procedures are in place to ensure that a Cartomizer is made and performs the way it should? I see no traceability and that scares me.

I read post where people state that NiChrome atomizer wire have this temperature and that e-Glass or Kevar wicks have this decomposition temperature so everything is Safe. Or people show brown spots or holes in filler material and say that this is proof that they are Not Safe.

I don’t think anyone knows what is Good, Bad or Indifferent because I don’t think anyone Actually knows what materials are actually inside every Cartomizer. Or even if the Cartomizers they buy this week are the same as the ones they bought last week. And that goes for the retail vendors also. As another member mentioned, all Cartomizers are not the same.

But this is what you get in an unregulated market where the product comes from foreign suppliers.

Am I saying that every Chinese manufacture of Cartomizers substitutes Inferior Materials, has Questionable manufacturing processes and little or no Quality Control? No, I am not. Am I saying that there exists a profit induced climate with no regulations where substandard products could reach the consumer, Absolutely.

So I guess the Big debate will continue and the CE2 is just the latest player to be discussed.

BTW – Not sure if this thread is a spill over from another but there is some interesting things mentioned about the CE2 Cartomizers in the link below.

Edition 2 Cartomizers
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[Quick1]

Just a point of clarification. I only tried these on 3.7V, on our regular batteries (we don't sell any batteries > 3.7V). I was not brave enough to try them at anything higher than 3.7V.

The Duck reviewed them at 3.7v (mod). Said he burnt one out right away at 6v and didn't try them at 5v. (there's these two parallel threads going and I can't keep track which one I'm on).

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ews/106231-raw-duck-v2-cartomizer-review.html

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[badkolo]

my order has been shipped.

 

[WitchWay]

my order has been shipped.

When did you order? I'm still waiting for my shipping notice.

 

[badkolo]

I ordered 8 days ago exactly and it was shipped yesterday .

Thanks for your order !

we have shipped your goods on 16th July ~
the tracking number is :xxxxxxxxxxx

Best wishes
Aileen


so i guess 7 to 8 days from now i will receive them

 

[BanjoMan]

I received an e-mail from Aileen this morning telling me mine would ship Monday. I ordered last Sunday as well...

 

[Kimmy]

I'm going to be getting one from v4l to try out to post my findings.

I honestly feel though that some people are reluctant to see these may not be the end all save all for cartomizers. We all want the burning issues to go away, but in reality, all the interest and rave over these isn't going to push this manufacture to improve.

My opinion is we need to demand better cartomziers. V4L sent out a bunch of samples to some of us, we will all post our findings, and try on different voltages, but I really don't think people should keep buying a crap load of them. Doing so will only lead them to believe everything is fine and dandy. We have gotten quite a few honest reviews from reputable sources that say these do in fact burn very quickly. I'm frankly not understanding people'e desire to even buy them after this.

We need to push them to make improvements, but by creating such a stir, we are only allowing them to continue to make inferior products and still make money.

Frankly, why would vapor4life break a deal like this? The answer is simple, they knew these cartomizers would have numerous problems, the same old burning issues, and not up to our standards.

This is all just my opinion on these.

I love buying the next new thing like anybody does, but it seems these cartomizers aren't any improvement from the ones we currently have, in fact, most likely worse.

I won't waste a dime on them.

The chinese supplier does sound like a good company, and they have a GREAT idea. If they are willing to invest the money to improve them, they will have a goldmine on their hands. I hope they realize this sooner than later.

 

[badkolo]

I'm going to be getting one from v4l to try out to post my findings.

I honestly feel though that some people are reluctant to see these may not be the end all save all for cartomizers. We all want the burning issues to go away, but in reality, all the interest and rave over these isn't going to push this manufacture to improve.

My opinion is we need to demand better cartomziers. V4L sent out a bunch of samples to some of us, we will all post our findings, and try on different voltages, but I really don't think people should keep buying a crap load of them. Doing so will only lead them to believe everything is fine and dandy. We have gotten quite a few honest reviews from reputable sources that say these do in fact burn very quickly. I'm frankly not understanding people'e desire to even try them after this.

We need to push them to make improvements, but by creating such a stir, we are only allowing them to continue to make inferior products and still make money.

Frankly, why would vapor4life break a deal like this? The answer is simple, they knew these cartomizers would have numerous problems, the same old burning issues, and not up to our standards.

This is all just my opinion on these.

I love buying the next new thing like anybody does, but it seems these cartomizers aren't any improvement from the ones we currently have, in fact, most likely worse.

I won't waste a dime on them.

at the same time we have others who say everyone is crazy and they work fine, most of us know these are not meant for 5 or 6volts, but i understand what your saying, we are sending them a wrong message since these should work regardless and since they dont work under the same circumstances as other cartos then obviously there is a issue that needs to be resolved.

I mean once i saw them state we need to use dikang liquid that was a red flag there and when v4l told them they wherent happy the second time then they should have tried a redesign instead of flipping out and canceling, but i do appreciate a company trying to improve cartomizers becuase eventually someone will make a perfect cartomizer and this company attempted to deliver the goods, and as i have stated before, some genius on these forums will play around with them and figure out a simple solution to solve the wicking problem and whatever issues need to be resolved and hopefully either that company or another will then make the perfect carto.

in the end I just want a cartomizer with no filler, even IF the filler cause NO harm as it cooks and burns( I believe when it is burning it cant be good for you) I hate the filler for the taste reason as well, between the filler and some cartos with cardboard tubing it changes the flavor for me and I dont like it. So I want my order just to expereince what a perfect carto might taste like even if its for 10 drags before it burns(im being slightly sarcastic)

 

[Kimmy]

at the same time we have others who say everyone is crazy and they work fine, most of us know these are not meant for 5 or 6volts, but i understand what your saying, we are sending them a wrong message since these should work regardless and since they dont work under the same circumstances as other cartos then obviously there is a issue that needs to be resolved.

I mean once i saw them state we need to use dikang liquid that was a red flag there, but i do appreciate a company trying to improve cartomizers becuase eventually someone will make a perfect cartomizer and this company attempted to deliver the goods, and as i have stated before, some genius on these forums will play around with them and figure out a simple solution to solve the wicking problem and whatever issues need to be resolved and hopefully either that company or another will then make the perfect carto.

Who is saying they are crazy and work fine? haha The new person who has nothing to compare it to (no offense to that person)? From what I've seen, people originally thought them to be good, but after closer inspection and observation realized they were not that great.

I agree maybe someone can mod something and make it work better, but the factory taking the advice may be another story. I don't want to order cartomizers and have to mod them to work every time. I really hope this isn't the end of the story for this company. I would love to hear a statement saying they will start brainstorming ideas.

 

[BanjoMan]

I think the answer to this is pretty simple:

Some people (like me) will order these, try them out, and post reviews both here and on e-liquid.cn's website (or from wherever they bought them). If a majority of the reviews are negative, their orders will drop to near zero, and they'll have to improve the design. The free market has a way of working things like this out.

Without early adopters there would be no new products. I justify the amount of money I've spent since I started using e-cigs because it helped get me to where I am today. Buying a POS e-Health e-cig encouraged me to get a 401 - then a 901 - and eventually a 510 box mod. Reading the reviews here helped, but in the end I had to try things myself to see what worked for me.

edit: Just noticed that www.e-liquid.cn has plastic needles for sale on their carto page.
http://www.e-liquid.cn/catalog/index.php?cPath=105

 

[Kimmy]

I would also like to add what we are witnessing is an exciting thing for the ecig world. Finally, a Chinese supplier realizing the issues that truly exist. I hope others begin to follow this example.