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I received mine yesterday. They're the ones with three holes, little ones on each side and bigger one in the center. Took me a while to figure out how to fill it, I made a mess. Now that I think I've got it right I'm loving these. Seriously. I've been vaping pretty strong for about half an hour, the flavor is just as strong and clear as if I were dripping. I still need to figure out the best way to fill it, but I'm much happier than I thought I would be.

If you have a 20 gauge or similar syringe filling is easy-peasy once you get the routine down. Just use the needle tip to enlarge the fill holes a little if you need to.
 

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BR... nice review!

I really hope they fix this connector issue. My original 510 carto - the one I've refilled about 8 times and cleaned twice - stopped working on the very box mod I'd been using to dry burn it. I'd had this thing on there multiple times and it just decided all of a sudden to *not* connect. Aggravating...

I agree with you fully on these being too hot at 3.7v, and for me too warm at 3.3v (or whatever a Joye batt puts out). Luckily my Little Sister variable showed up yesterday and I was lucky to be able to dial it down to where I enjoy it (and double-lucky it connected when I screwed it on).

These things have great potential, but I think we can all agree there's a few bugs to work out yet.
Thanks Man.

The Joye battery puts out right at 3 volts with a load, or thereabouts according to my measurements. It comes off the charger at 4.2 volts, but that don't mean nothing.

I've had my eye on the Little Sister for a while now, mostly because it will regulate down to about 2 volts. I think a lower voltage will let us get our best vape with the 2.5 ohm versions. Not only that, but the batteries should go longer between charges at these voltages. I've looked at the Buzz, but it seems to me that I remember that it will only go down to 3.5 volts.

I believe thread compatibility is the main issue that needs to be complied with at this time. These people are great at copying things and it should be a simple thing to get them right. I think they were just trying too hard to make a universal fitting that would please all the people all the time. One size doesn't fit all in this business.
 

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banjo, now that you have one of the newest revisions can you tell me how its holding up after some use, also does the looser coil help as we expected it too.

im in pain right now, i took a bad fall this morning so after i heal up a little ill make a new thread.

Br im glad you got to play with them, now in the future you should try the newest revisions with higher ohms to compare it to these older revisions with lower ohms.
 

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Thanks Man.

The Joye battery puts out right at 3 volts with a load, or thereabouts according to my measurements. It comes off the charger at 4.2 volts, but that don't mean nothing.

I've had my eye on the Little Sister for a while now, mostly because it will regulate down to about 2 volts. I think a lower voltage will let us get our best vape with the 2.5 ohm versions. Not only that, but the batteries should go longer between charges at these voltages. I've looked at the Buzz, but it seems to me that I remember that it will only go down to 3.5 volts.

I believe thread compatibility is the main issue that needs to be complied with at this time. These people are great at copying things and it should be a simple thing to get them right. I think they were just trying too hard to make a universal fitting that would please all the people all the time. One size doesn't fit all in this business.

are you sure its a 510 connection and not the other version they have that fits a 510 but not so well. thats besides the inner post issue. im sure your correct but i only ask becuase of what i read on thier site, the other model fits a 510 cennection but not well.
 

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Bad,

Bad fall? Hope you're ok man. The 510's I have were shipped 7/19, so I'm pretty sure they're not the "latest" revision. There were two types of wicks (minor differences from what I can tell). They both seem to work fine in general, but at 3.7v they don't wick as fast as I'd like.

BR,

To be fair when I e-mailed Ken (maker of the Little Sister), he claimed that the LS starts at about 3.5v. When I disagreed with him *:)*, he basically said that there are variances in both the resistor and voltage regulator that could account for that. Since I'm the only one that seems to be concerned with going below 3.3v right now there's not much discussion about it (most people buy the LS to go higher, not lower).
 

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yeah banjo, took a tumble down the stairs and my back is in pain and i already have back issues but no biggie ill survive. lol


Well yeah i think these while work for some at 3.7 they still get to hot at 3.7 and that will impede the wicking as well so ill leave the newer ones that arrive that are 2.5 ohm for my lower volt stuff and ill use the new 3.0 ohm for my 3.7 devices.

By the way are your inner plugs easily removable.
 

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yeah banjo, took a tumble down the stairs and my back is in pain and i already have back issues but no biggie ill survive. lol


Well yeah i think these while work for some at 3.7 they still get to hot at 3.7 and that will impede the wicking as well so ill leave the newer ones that arrive that are 2.5 ohm for my lower volt stuff and ill use the new 3.0 ohm for my 3.7 devices.

By the way are your inner plugs easily removable.

Everyone I've tried to remove so far (from both styles of wicks) took a little effort and looked like there was a small dab of glue or something being used to hold them in. I managed to get them out without messing them up, but it took a little patience and pressure.
 

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are you sure its a 510 connection and not the other version they have that fits a 510 but not so well. thats besides the inner post issue. im sure your correct but i only ask becuase of what i read on thier site, the other model fits a 510 cennection but not well.
I'm fairly certain they are a 510 connection. I compared them with a Joye fitting and the threads are almost the same. The better working threads look closer. The worse working thread has the air holes too high. Going by WitchWay's new order, I think her different threads are doing the same thing as mine. I just think her estimate of a 1/8 gap is a bit much.
 

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BR,

To be fair when I e-mailed Ken (maker of the Little Sister), he claimed that the LS starts at about 3.5v. When I disagreed with him *:)*, he basically said that there are variances in both the resistor and voltage regulator that could account for that. Since I'm the only one that seems to be concerned with going below 3.3v right now there's not much discussion about it (most people buy the LS to go higher, not lower).
I stand corrected about the lower voltage. I was going by hearsay and I know better than do a thing like that.

Shucks. I had great hopes about the LS.
 

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but that video shows it going all the way in the 2's so hows that possible that they are 3.5 and above.

My guess is that it does go that low, but because everyone is concerned about the 3.7-6.4v range the lower settings aren't being examined much. I KNOW mine will do it, but to be safe you might want to PM amajn. He did the original video review and has the equipment to verify it.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/video-reviews/105373-first-quick-look-little-sister-mod.html
 

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Banjo im gonna admit something i shouldnt, but i had no idea the wick cant burn, i tried with a lighter and nothing.

then when i was dry burning these i never took it to the point where the wick returned to a clean white with a clean coil. So i did a dry burn on one and eventually it turned white as new including the coil. I was wondering what you meant when you said it turns white again and now i know,lol.

dumb me. but that leads me back to what i said yesterday, that means there is no burning and its strictly a drying taste issue which was caused by the tight coil and lower ohm.
 

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im sure your correct but i only ask becuase of what i read on thier site,

Lol, that would be the same site that said "no issues", "300 puffs", "less bacterial", "no complaints", "you're not using it as intended" ... that site?

The info here, lacking and skewed as it may be, is orders of magnitude more credible than what you might read there.
 

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Banjo im gonna admit something i shouldnt, but i had no idea the wick cant burn, i tried with a lighter and nothing.

then when i was dry burning these i never took it to the point where the wick returned to a clean white with a clean coil. So i did a dry burn on one and eventually it turned white as new including the coil. I was wondering what you meant when you said it turns white again and now i know,lol.

dumb me. but that leads me back to what i said yesterday, that means there is no burning and its strictly a drying taste issue which was caused by the tight coil and lower ohm.
Lordy, I thought you already knew that! Just burn the crap out of it Bad, heheh.
 

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Lol, that would be the same site that said "no issues", "300 puffs", "less bacterial", "no complaints", "you're not using it as intended" ... that site?

The info here, lacking and skewed as it may be, is orders of magnitude more credible than what you might read there.

ill be honest quick, i never believed in the 300 puff thing, that is like when i was told a carto is the same as a pack of cigs.

The no issues part, well u know i agree with you there.
the less bacterial part, well it is better because there is no filler so in that sense these are better, but no bacterial is subjective since when you open it up your exposing it to air and its still able to get bacteria so thats subjective.

the no complaints part, well that makes no sense since they are improving the product so obviously there where complaints but at least they are improving them, i give them that.

The not using as intended part, well they did say to use it as a cig and they always said its for lower volt batteries and thats why there is a higher ohm version so on that point i dont see your point.

but why beat a dead horse, its been 1 month now, we are all very aware of the fiasco but im in the search for the perfect carto, less headaches etc.. and i found it even if i had to be a guinea pig in doing so, sometimes you need to push forward and deal with crap to get what you want and thats what happened, we put up with some crap and now we shall have what we wanted all along. I know you want to deny that but there are to many positive reviews out there that let you know the product does actually work(( the good e2's)).

manny modders wherent happy with original atomizers, they didnt do it for them , many leaked an so on, but they persisted, opened them ,experimented, and today we have LR and HV atty's , we have newer carto designs and now we have the e2. rome wasnt built in a day.
 
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