Hey Lark, quick question:
What kind of juice are you using? what's the PG/VG percentages?
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Hey Lark, quick question:
What kind of juice are you using? what's the PG/VG percentages?
I'm hoping this 500 mesh solid wick setup is going to work well with 100% VG. I've had pretty good luck with 400 mesh, but occasional tilting has been required for the last quarter of the AGAT+ tank. I should have some 500 mesh later this week, I'll post my own results when the time comes. I've been following BJ43's advice for a bit, and it's all been very helpful. I haven't had much luck with 28g Kanthal, but I chalk that up to my inexperience. I'm going to try my luck with 29 gauge when the 500 mesh shows up. Thank you all for your shared knowledge and experience, it's seriously cutting down on my trial and error time.
The main reason I looked for better wicking mesh (500) was because I use 100% vg, and I too have given up on 28g because of the lag and now use almost exclusively 30g kanthal or kanthal ribbon.
Greetings and salutations to all! I'm looking at trying out some 500 mesh. I have been using 325 & 400 with decent results. Would a 500 wick do well with 100% vg juice? Solid or hollow wick? I was under the impression that 325 was best for higher vg juice? Am I misinformed?
Thank you! Very informative. I'm off to read this thread from the beginning.
I placed an order for 30 Gauge Kanthal from TEMCo over a week ago, and they are showing no signs of expediting the transaction other than taking my money. I ordered from them via Ebay, and received 29 gauge Kanthal in 5 days. I'm never ordering directly from them again. Seeing how they are not "suppliers" of anything intended to be used for vaping, I assume it's safe to explain my frustration with them on ECF. I expect to see the 30g I ordered directly from them in about 3 weeks, according to their website. The 29g will have to do for now.
BJ43, would you advise me to bore out the wick hole on my AGA T+? If so, by how much? It's a pretty small hole as is, but wicking is "acceptable" even when using 400 mesh. Not that it matters when answering my questions, but I do have glass tubes installed.
BJ43, would you advise me to bore out the wick hole on my AGA T+? If so, by how much? It's a pretty small hole as is, but wicking is "acceptable" even when using 400 mesh. Not that it matters when answering my questions, but I do have glass tubes installed.
No I would not bore it out. I use 70mm of 500 mesh rolled tight, no center hole in the mesh wick. Keep the wick snug in the wick hole. Works for me... The 29 is good, I have also used it, but have found the 30 gives me the best, no lag and long lasting. Try 70mm of 400 mesh rolled tight. The 400 and 500 have the same wire size, just smaller open area in the 500, that is why it wicks better.
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That's the answer I wanted to hear, I didn't really want to go through the trouble. I have some 500 mesh on the way but I don't want to shelve or sell the 400 I currently have. Having 2 AGA T+'s will allow me to make some very direct comparisons between 400 and 500 mesh, assuming I trust the consistency of my mesh rolling and coil wrapping. Only time and experience can help me with that.
I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around the idea of using SS "rope" as a wick. It seems like it would be one of the worst choices for wick material when using 100% VG. Some people swear by it, but some people also swear that Bigfoot exists. At least you have proof that your methods work, and many posts in this thread alone confirm it. As always, I appreciate your knowledge, feedback, and general candor when dealing with inexperienced vapors like myself. ECF needs more "pro" members to follow your lead.
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Schnarph,
I made an order for 29g and 30g from TEMco just the other day, but I called first, to see of they'd take a Phone Order. I saw the 29g in 25' for $2.65 on eBay, so I thought I'd call to ask if they also carried 30g in 25'. He said they were very, very low on 30g, but they had some 100', so if I didn't mind waiting for Stock to be replenished, I could order 25'. The 30g in 25' cost the same as 100', and 100' showed "In Stock" with a few left, so I ordered both 25' of 29g and 100' of 30g. My 29g has already shipped. I don't know why the 30g hasn't since it showed as "In Stock," but all I can do is wait for it. I'm sure it will ship, as people have been buying from TEMco for a long time now.
Before you say you'll never order directly from them again, you need to wait to see what happens. They're just low on stock. Maybe they didn't update the eBay page correctly. I was really looking forward to 30g, as it showed "In Stock," but at least I have some 29g coming, and the 30g will follow. I just ordered two AGA-T2's, too, with some #500 SS Mesh, and some other stuff as well, all in the same day. Everything but the 30g should get to me about the same time.
Wooo Hooo!!! All I've had until now was a single Vivi Nova with the 1.8Ω Coils I screwed up and bought back in January. I'm gonna try some SS Mesh to make a U-Shape Wick for the VN, too.
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Hey Beege,
I just had a kinda crazy thought... What if I made the #500 SS Mesh Wick with a somewhat larger Center Hole, cut on the Bias for a U-Shaped Wick for the Vivi Nova, and then squished it flatter (Oval) after arching it into the U-Shape, to close the Center Hole into your Dense Wick, and used something like your Oval Coil around it in my Vivi Nova? Have you ever tried that? Of course, I could wrap the coil directly onto the Wick, but Hey!!!
Maybe that way I could get more Mesh in the Wick, without having to modify the VN Head Wick Channel width, and have more Kanthal to Wrap in the Coil around a larger Wick, as I'm gonna want about 2.5Ωs (or more). I have 8 VN Heads, so I wouldn't mind modifying the Channel Width in some either, but I think the Oval Wick might work, too. This might be the trick for the VN and the 29g I had to get first, while waiting on the 30g, like Schnarph.
I'll bet you're gonna play with it, aren't you?
I just had a kinda crazy thought... What if I made the #500 SS Mesh Wick with a somewhat larger Center Hole, cut on the Bias for a U-Shaped Wick for the Vivi Nova, and then squished it flatter (Oval) after arching it into the U-Shape, to close the Center Hole into your Dense Wick, and used something like your Oval Coil around it in my Vivi Nova? Have you ever tried that? Of course, I could wrap the coil directly onto the Wick, but Hey!!!
Maybe that way I could get more Mesh in the Wick, without having to modify the VN Head Wick Channel width, and have more Kanthal to Wrap in the Coil around a larger Wick, as I'm gonna want about 2.5Ωs (or more). I have 8 VN Heads, so I wouldn't mind modifying the Channel Width in some either, but I think the Oval Wick might work, too. This might be the trick for the VN and the 29g I had to get first, while waiting on the 30g, like Schnarph.
I'll bet you're gonna play with it, aren't you?
I have not used steel mesh in months, but try it. My new love is hemp, and the new BD13 ceramic wick. Probably never go back to steel and all its hassles. Here is my vivi set up now.
Mesh is quite a hassle. I have finally obtained good results with 400 mesh, still waiting for some 500 to be delivered. I could not roll as much mesh as you suggested tightly enough to fit in my AGA T+ wick hole, and when it was crammed in the hole it wicked very poorly. Once I got around to rolling a solid stick that was easy to slide in the wick hole and removed the vent screw completely, excellent wicking was achieved! I'm not into chain vaping but so far I can't get the wick to run dry until the tank is empty. Thanks for the helpful thread.
Is BD13 just a code word for FC2000, or is it something else? I'm not very interested in ceramic wicks at the moment, I can't afford to break them at their present cost and I'm still a "noob" in the RBA arena. Hemp is working pretty well for me in an RDA, but it's not doing as good of a job at wicking in an AGA T as SS mesh. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, I don't know or care. I've got everything wicking great right now and don't have much desire to fix what isn't broken. When the day comes that I'm sick of prepping SS mesh wicks or I'm running low on supply, I'll give ceramic a try. By that point something "new" may come along, I'll keep my mind open and eyes on your threads. Thanks again BJ43, you saved me a lot of time and hassle.
The BD13 is not a FC2000, it is a mystery ceramic Boden found and is negotiating with the manufacturer to market it. As far as I am concerned the FC2000 are useless for my type of vaping (they can't keep up with me without constant tilting). The BD13 is excellent and a lot stronger. Really looking forward to when these become available. I only have one that was given to me for testing.
On the AGA try a small piece of hemp between the mesh/coil and the center pos, like in the pic. It really improved my vape.
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The BD13 is not a FC2000, it is a mystery ceramic Boden found and is negotiating with the manufacturer to market it. As far as I am concerned the FC2000 are useless for my type of vaping (they can't keep up with me without constant tilting). The BD13 is excellent and a lot stronger. Really looking forward to when these become available. I only have one that was given to me for testing.
On the AGA try a small piece of hemp between the mesh/coil and the center pos, like in the pic. It really improved my vape.
Would you please PM me when the BD13 becomes available?!!! Or if there's a way that I can get some now. I'm finally able to experiment.
And that looks like Ribbon Kanthal on your Wick. Which one is it? I couldn't figure out how to pick the right one, so I bought Round. Keep in mind that I'm gonna want about 2.5Ω to 3Ω on my Coil. I know that you've been using around 2Ω, at least in the past, but that might have changed with the BD13. ...Uh, that is BD13 in your AGA, right?
How long has your BD13 been lasting before you have to replace it? Cyrus said a while back that his SS Wicks have been lasting weeks and still looking like new, with his cleaning method and No-Torch method... and Vaping like a Steam Locomotive Train. I know that the BD13 is performing well for you, or you wouldn't have switched.
As we all head into the Memorial Day Weekend, I'd like to invite you all to read a post in a lounge thread.
It's Not Just Barbeques and Vacation.
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@emonty, hello my friend, glad it works for you. I could not get cable to wick enough to even keep a flame going on my mini kerosene lamps. Left a wick overnight vertical in 2 inches of VG and got very little capillary action. Since my normal vaping position is with my elbow on an arm rest, very little tilt angle, just couldn't get it to work for me. But no problem the SS cable makes good hook leaders for shark fishing.
It's so weird that cable is the bomb for some & a dud for others.
I wonder if it has something to do with the number of wires per strand & the number of strands used to create a given diameter cable. Or maybe what kind of core is used? Or some combination of both...
emonty & your posts made me go look for a pictorial 'description' of the different cable types. Very interesting stuff on page four of this PDF: http://www.hanessupply.com/content/pdfs/wireRope101.pdf
I wonder if it has something to do with the number of wires per strand & the number of strands used to create a given diameter cable. Or maybe what kind of core is used? Or some combination of both...
emonty & your posts made me go look for a pictorial 'description' of the different cable types. Very interesting stuff on page four of this PDF: http://www.hanessupply.com/content/pdfs/wireRope101.pdf
I make my own and it is all PG (except for the flavor of course).
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