AFS v2

Status
Not open for further replies.

keon718nyc

Unregistered Supplier
ECF Veteran
Thank you so much for the pictures. That was what I was looking for. How often will this filler need replaced? Will adding this filler close the air holes making it harder to bring in the vapor or is that not a concern? I was really hoping to avoid the use of any filler if it's going to need to be replaced on a daily basis.

Is everyone else experiencing leaking from their AFS? I want to make sure it's not just me having these problems.:vapor:

No problem:2cool:, You will not need to replace them that much, you can even wash it off and replace it when you clean the AFS or refill the liquid. It will not be harder to pull as the ring doesn't need to be open fully or even half way with the foam becouse plenty of air will still come in and it will not be a concern. Mine has no issues and i don't think you will after putting the foam insert~
 

vapn

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Jul 10, 2009
3,457
525
UK
I have no troubles with leakage from that area but when I refill mine I usually flood the atty and what I do to start out dry is to take the brass part off the AFS with the juice and atty inside still and wipe the inside under the atty out and blow into the mouthpiece a little to clear any excess juice in the atty. Put it all back together and open the CR up and vape normally. If I don't do this procedure to start out with I get this flooding issue and can't get it to stop. Its like a siphon effect.

Something else it could be is the bottom oring on the atty is not getting compressed by the brass part enough to create a positive seal around the atty. That was the reason for removing the brass part oring; so that the brass part would compress the oring up inside the bottom around the atty. Make sure you are getting the brass part a little tight. No need to crank down on it with pliers but it should be tight to stop leakage from under the atty. If this is tight and a good seal then the only way juice could get in the collection area is flooding through the atty by vaping with the CR closed off too much.

Not all atties are created equal and the draw on them is different from atty to atty. This is the reason I think that we are getting some good results and some not so good. I have been using this thing for a while now and have had some atties that would not cooperate with me at all and some that would work so well it was like magic. My observation is the tighter draw ones flow really good with juice and the light airy ones flood easy.
 

FreeGT

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Dec 23, 2009
114
0
40
St. louis, MO
As the atty's get broken in, the placement of the CR changes for me. And each atty behaves differently.

I have noticed the AFS will leak if my CR is not fully closed when I lay my mod on it's side. Now I keep it upright, and always close the CR if my mod is in my pocket. Since that, I haven't had any issues with leakage.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the o-rings were working sealing properly, and you closed the CR, and sucked, you should NOT get any air flow, right?

If they didn't seal properly you should be able to suck a little air in with the CR fully closed, right?

I guess that would a way to check if your o-rings are sealing.
 

imeothanasis

Unregistered Supplier
ECF Veteran
Feb 13, 2009
47,882
34,510
Athens, Hellas
gg-goldengreek.com
Thanks for the response Imeo. I originally took off the brass o-ring because I had leaking from that area. If I put it back on...I'll still have the same issue as before. Should a different size o-ring have been put in it's place? You had to have a reason to request everyone to remove it so I'm looking for a way to permanently fix this issue.

I close the CR everytime I refill and turn the top cap very slowly. It's not an initial leaking and that's that. I have non-stop slow leaking from both the 8 holes and the brass connector. Every now and then I will get more liquid than normal leaking out and it will run down my GGTS cap.

Can you be more specific about this filler? Exactly what to buy and the amount to buy along with a picture or video on how you install it? I'm a very visual person...not sure I understand until I see it done.

I said to put again the o-ring to the brass connector in case AFS leaks from there but AFS dont really leak from there. It leaks from the 8 holes, then the liquid goes inside the CR and then it goes to the o-ring that there is on the brass connector so AFS looks like it leaks from the brass connector.

Aas for the filler, I will read the next posts and if someone else havent answer to you then I will do it Zai my friend:)
 

imeothanasis

Unregistered Supplier
ECF Veteran
Feb 13, 2009
47,882
34,510
Athens, Hellas
gg-goldengreek.com
Thank you so much for the pictures. That was what I was looking for. How often will this filler need replaced? Will adding this filler close the air holes making it harder to bring in the vapor or is that not a concern? I was really hoping to avoid the use of any filler if it's going to need to be replaced on a daily basis.

Is everyone else experiencing leaking from their AFS? I want to make sure it's not just me having these problems.:vapor:

filler dont need replace Zai, only to push it with fingers to drive away the liquid from it
 

imeothanasis

Unregistered Supplier
ECF Veteran
Feb 13, 2009
47,882
34,510
Athens, Hellas
gg-goldengreek.com
As the atty's get broken in, the placement of the CR changes for me. And each atty behaves differently.

I have noticed the AFS will leak if my CR is not fully closed when I lay my mod on it's side. Now I keep it upright, and always close the CR if my mod is in my pocket. Since that, I haven't had any issues with leakage.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the o-rings were working sealing properly, and you closed the CR, and sucked, you should NOT get any air flow, right?

If they didn't seal properly you should be able to suck a little air in with the CR fully closed, right?

I guess that would a way to check if your o-rings are sealing.

Yes, exactly as you said Free my friend:)
 

vapn

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Jul 10, 2009
3,457
525
UK
Well guys, I have just hooked up my first 510 inside the V2. The adapter from 901-510 works great after a little filing down of the threads on the V2s connection point.

After I got the adapter threaded far enough down to get a sizzle on the atty I couldn't get the thing together fast enough. Filled it up with juice.

I was using a LR 510 with a 18500 HD battery. The first 8-10 puffs were nice and then the taste started getting a little on the burnt side and then totally burnt. So I don't think the existing holes on the threads of the 510 are going to be enough for the proper juice flow. We may need special ones with a hole(s) into the side of the atty wall.

That is just my initial observation of the 510 as is and I hope that everyone will give this a try and let me know how it works for you.
 

harpo

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Dec 19, 2009
2,552
330
Yuba City, California
Well guys, I have just hooked up my first 510 inside the V2. The adapter from 901-510 works great after a little filing down of the threads on the V2s connection point.

After I got the adapter threaded far enough down to get a sizzle on the atty I couldn't get the thing together fast enough. Filled it up with juice.

I was using a LR 510 with a 18500 HD battery. The first 8-10 puffs were nice and then the taste started getting a little on the burnt side and then totally burnt. So I don't think the existing holes on the threads of the 510 are going to be enough for the proper juice flow. We may need special ones with a hole(s) into the side of the atty wall.

That is just my initial observation of the 510 as is and I hope that everyone will give this a try and let me know how it works for you.


Do you plan on taking the dremel and thinning the wall a little and drilling a hole in it? Sounds like a 1mm hole should do the trick.
 

imeothanasis

Unregistered Supplier
ECF Veteran
Feb 13, 2009
47,882
34,510
Athens, Hellas
gg-goldengreek.com
I think that we can modify the adapter to let more juice go into the atty. The current adapters are covering the 2 holes of the 510 if the 4 cuts that adapter has not match the 2 holes of 510. So we can make an adapter that will leave all the room that 510 holes needs. That way the liquid will come to the atty very easy.

Vapn, please see where the holes of the 510 are when you screw it totally to the adapter, take a triangle file and file the adapter where the holes are so you can make cuts like the original ones on the adapter. I think that atty will get overflood this time
 

Zaiden

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Jan 13, 2010
209
0
Ohio
Hey all, got another question for everyone. I was cleaning out my AFS because my tank was almost empty. I noticed my e-liquid inside the tank was very odd looking. I poured the remaining liquid from the tank to a clear plastic bottle. The color in its original state is very clear with a VERY slight red coloring to it. However, the stuff I poured out of the AFS was a very dirty muddy red color and there was some sediments in the liquid.

What could possibly cause this? Is the aluminum leaching? Do you think this sediment and color changing is from something else like the metal from the threadings are coming off into the liquid (threading is not filed down and sharp in some areas). Either way...it has me very concerned. I am putting down the AFS until I hear back from all of you. Who knows what I could be inhaling and my health and safety come first. Please share your thoughts.

fyi - I have cleaned the AFS about 5 times with warm water and detergent prior to using this...so it should be as clean as it can get.
 

emonty

Flavor Junky
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Oct 15, 2009
7,612
8,850
the Netherlands
Hey all, got another question for everyone. I was cleaning out my AFS because my tank was almost empty. I noticed my e-liquid inside the tank was very odd looking. I poured the remaining liquid from the tank to a clear plastic bottle. The color in its original state is very clear with a VERY slight red coloring to it. However, the stuff I poured out of the AFS was a very dirty muddy red color and there was some sediments in the liquid.

What could possibly cause this? Is the aluminum leaching? Do you think this sediment and color changing is from something else like the metal from the threadings are coming off into the liquid (threading is not filed down and sharp in some areas). Either way...it has me very concerned. I am putting down the AFS until I hear back from all of you. Who knows what I could be inhaling and my health and safety come first. Please share your thoughts.

fyi - I have cleaned the AFS about 5 times with warm water and detergent prior to using this...so it should be as clean as it can get.

color changing is because of the heat, sediment is from the atty, would not worry too much as the materials will get warm but not burn.
 

emonty

Flavor Junky
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Oct 15, 2009
7,612
8,850
the Netherlands
Why would there be sediment in the atty? Would washing the atty out help resolve this? From a clear liquid to muddy brown just has me worried.
Not sediment in the attie, from the attie. The attie has the wick and the bridge, besides the electrical wiring. So it must come from those parts. Again, it sets to the bottom, I don't think you will actually vape the stuff, jsut my :2c:

PS: I am using a cartomizer in the AFS, but have not seen any sediment in my AFS until now, just the color changes, but that is normal because of the heating of the liquid.
 

Zaiden

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Jan 13, 2010
209
0
Ohio
That puts me more at ease...kind of. So, back to my other topic...leaking. I'm going to make a few statements and by no means am I bashing Imeo or his products. I personally own a GGTS and the AFS v2. I think he is groundbreaking with his inventions, but I find it hard to swallow that I have to go to these forums to find out that I need.

* I have to remove 3 o-rings from my AFS to stop the leaking, which still hasn't fixed the issue.
* The threads on the AFS are horribly sharp which is causing these o-rings to get cuts in them. (shouldn't these be filed down!?)
* I am told to go to a pet store to buy fluval to create my own o-ring to put a "band-aid" on the leaking issue.
* I have to pick out metal shavings from the "laser hole" in the atomizer.

Imeo...please take this as suggestions to make your brand even better, not as an insult. As I said, I own your products and I love them, but if you go that extra mile to bring a finished product to the market instead of it in a beta form, it will go a long way with your customers. Spending $120 is a lot of money and I expect it to be flawless when you state it was in your videos. When I hear "not a drop of liquid leakage", that is what I expect.

Also, keep in mind most people have the machine-grooved GGTS...you mentioned you would produce AFS units to match these units, but instead it was the polished look only (minor complaint, but you should keep prior customers in mind). I would really hope that any changes you make with these AFS units will be adaptable to our current units free of charge.

For anyone thinking about buying the new AFS, I STRONGLY recommend it. My complaints are minor and beats dripping without a doubt. This is just a suggestion to Imeo as I mainly hear nothing but praises, but sometimes it's good to hear about issues as well.
 

Stormynights

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Mar 31, 2009
3,232
200
Bristow, Ok.
That puts me more at ease...kind of. So, back to my other topic...leaking. I'm going to make a few statements and by no means am I bashing Imeo or his products. I personally own a GGTS and the AFS v2. I think he is groundbreaking with his inventions, but I find it hard to swallow that I have to go to these forums to find out that I need.

* I have to remove 3 o-rings from my AFS to stop the leaking, which still hasn't fixed the issue.
* The threads on the AFS are horribly sharp which is causing these o-rings to get cuts in them. (shouldn't these be filed down!?)
* I am told to go to a pet store to buy fluval to create my own o-ring to put a "band-aid" on the leaking issue.
* I have to pick out metal shavings from the "laser hole" in the atomizer.

Imeo...please take this as suggestions to make your brand even better, not as an insult. As I said, I own your products and I love them, but if you go that extra mile to bring a finished product to the market instead of it in a beta form, it will go a long way with your customers. Spending $120 is a lot of money and I expect it to be flawless when you state it was in your videos. When I hear "not a drop of liquid leakage", that is what I expect.

Also, keep in mind most people have the machine-grooved GGTS...you mentioned you would produce AFS units to match these units, but instead it was the polished look only (minor complaint, but you should keep prior customers in mind). I would really hope that any changes you make with these AFS units will be adaptable to our current units free of charge.

For anyone thinking about buying the new AFS, I STRONGLY recommend it. My complaints are minor and beats dripping without a doubt. This is just a suggestion to Imeo as I mainly hear nothing but praises, but sometimes it's good to hear about issues as well.

I do understand your comments about the flaws but as a GG family member I feel a little special to get to try out the new devices and learn to use them flaws and all. I think we would probably be waiting a very long time to get the new things if they were only released after all the bugs were worked out. We also have the assurance that we will get any and all updates and advice possible. Maybe I am wrong but I feel like our feed back actually helps Imeo to perfect his products. I know it makes our family more closely bonded anyway. :):):)
 

Zaiden

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Jan 13, 2010
209
0
Ohio
I would be fine beta testing any products, but once there is a money transaction I feel I should have a finished product. I personally would wait until the product was complete, especially for the high cost of the GG line. However, if fixes are on the way and are sent to each customer...I will have zero problems with my AFS. Then I would prefer getting this ahead of schedule knowing I will get all updated parts for free.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread