Ammit MTL RTA

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Tim Wiseman

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The result:
Getting ohm1.14~1.16, 3.4V, on 10W. Using 2nd smallest airflow.
Rire Vapes VCT Strawberry 50mg.
Still doesn't get the taste.
Moved it up to 13W, using smallest airflow, I am getting a little taste but more TH.
After I tested like 25 puff, I am getting dizzy lol.
50mg, i would be dancing on the ceiling, the fact you are getting dizzy means that's too high mg. That sought of mg is for an occasional low wattage hit yet you mention things like chain vaping the two don't mix. You need to reduce the mg significantly for how you are vaping.
 

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I use simple round wire mostly, 28gs SS316L and KA1.
My builds with either wire are spaced 4 to 5 winds. I like a cool vape. Some flavours dont translate well at lower temps and others are crisp and spot on.
Occasionally I will use a .3 clapton or whatever coil, or lower, crank up the watts and am surprised at how different a juice can taste between two same rta's with very different builds.
Ive moved from MTL and the Ammit MTL to DL setups but I still use very similar coils but slightly different wicking in some cases. There is a difference in taste between MTL and DL. I think some flavours are better DL and some are better MTL, for me.
I could never build a coil and get a vape that was cool enough but with satisfactory throat hit and vapour with mtl, didnt matter what wire I used.
So I DL at 14-20w using .6 to .9ohm coils, and when I do MTL on a berseker or ammit mtl its the same coils but at 9-11w.
Right now Im using a butterscotch that seems to be destroying cotton and coils daily along with an unflavoured juice that can use the same coil and cotton for weeks on end with no real signs of taste drop off or weirdness.

Not sure how any of that is helpful to you tbh but it keeps the thread bumped for others to see :)
Butterscotch lush!
 

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50mg, i would be dancing on the ceiling, the fact you are getting dizzy means that's too high mg. That sought of mg is for an occasional low wattage hit yet you mention things like chain vaping the two don't mix. You need to reduce the mg significantly for how you are vaping.

Chain vaping 50 mg for the purpose of trying to get the favor.
I think the 50 mg, I can only use with Juul type.
Getting much better flavor from bskr mini though.
 

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@YHX72, there's nothing wrong with Cotton. It's just that wicking is just as personal as your setup and certain wicking material works better for some than others. Also different tanks can bring out different flavour profiles.

And for flavour it's a combination of coil (specific heat capacity and mass), wicking (liquid transport) and temperature (flavour molecules require certain temperatures).

And, yes. I was thinking that 50mg/ml was high, at least you get your nic fix though and it puts you off chain vaping. Hopefully over time though you'll find the level that suits your vaping preference.
 

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    Chain vaping 50 mg for the purpose of trying to get the favor.
    I think the 50 mg, I can only use with Juul type.
    Getting much better flavor from bskr mini though.

    Can you use a regular nic ejuice at 18mg to test out your builds? I agree with the above - 50mg nic salts aren't designed to be chain vaped in an RTA just to find the flavour sweet spot ;)
     

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    @YHX72, there's nothing wrong with Cotton. It's just that wicking is just as personal as your setup and certain wicking material works better for some than others. Also different tanks can bring out different flavour profiles.

    And for flavour it's a combination of coil (specific heat capacity and mass), wicking (liquid transport) and temperature (flavour molecules require certain temperatures).

    And, yes. I was thinking that 50mg/ml was high, at least you get your nic fix though and it puts you off chain vaping. Hopefully over time though you'll find the level that suits your vaping preference.

    Thank you, Mordacai.
    Kinda understand a little bit more now about the tanks. BSKR gets better flavor and my sweet spot was at around 20W using 28*2 +38g, 7 wraps (if not mistaken), .82uhm, using 3mg-6mg liquid.

    Trying the 50mg was an attempt trying to get the flavor close to Flint Kit Pod system (Greatest flavor I've tested). Silly me, it is impossible to do that. I don't understand TC yet. Trying to search around to get to know TC.
     
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    Can you use a regular nic ejuice at 18mg to test out your builds? I agree with the above - 50mg nic salts aren't designed to be chain vaped in an RTA just to find the flavour sweet spot ;)

    Hi AngeNZ,
    Sorry, I don't have 18mg liquid and I don't think I can handle that high nic. I tried 12mg regular liquid, the TH was too much. For regular liquid, I mostly using 6mg, 70vg.

    I was using GeekVape Flint Kit using 50mg with great flavor. I was tuning the power to taste the flavor. 2-3 puff each watt from 12W to 19W, so its kinda crazy but its a one time test only lol.
    Thank you again for the concern.
     

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    @YHX72, TC or Temperature Control isn't as convoluted as some make it.

    It can be a bit of a pain to setup, but it rewards you with a more consistent vape that you prefer, reduces liquid consumption a little, helps to prevent dry hits, and helps extend the life of your coil and wicking.

    But you have to use a TC capable wire such as Stainless Steel (mostly used as can be used in TC or power or wattage modes), Titanium (cannot dry burn or use in power or wattage mode) or Nickel (cannot dry burn or use in power or wattage mode).

    And a good coil building resource is steam-engine.org, they have tools there to help work out approximate resistance and heat capacity of coils. As well as TCR (Temperature Coefficient of Resistance) and TFR (Temperature Factors of Resistance), these are used for setting up TC if you wondered.

    As when a coil heated, its resistance increases and this is what the mod uses to estimate the temperature with some accuracy.

    This bring me to Kanthal, as it's only used in power mode due to its resistance changes almost imperceptibly when it is heated.

    If you need any help setting up TC though, you're more than welcome to PM me.
     
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    P3ch3

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    2 years back, I went into a vaping shop. They threw me a Sirius 200W mod and Govad RTA with a very sweet 3mg liquid. They didn't teach me about wire, cotton, nothing and I don't like vaping. At that time, I try vaping to quit smoking but failed. So, I quited vape and I didn't use it again until last month.

    Day 1, bought upods (juul clone). Nice little thing. After more than 3 puffs, leak up.
    Day 2, bought breeze 2. This is much better! There's 1 small problem, taste and battery.
    Day 3, bought another breeze 2 to make up the battery problem LOL yet saw better pod from the net.
    Day 4, bought Geekvape flint kit. This is the best but still, battery problem.
    After enjoying so many pod systems, I decided to try asmodus .blank and I can't take it. I don't know what's the problem. Coughing and coughing. I don't know MTL yet at that time ROFL.
    Day 8, bought Ammit. I don't think it can beat flint kit or rather I don't know how to do it.
    Day 10, bought BSKR 1.5 mini. I like this one very much for better taste. What I don't like, it's hot after 2-3 chain puffs. A small 22mm.

    With the pods and RTA, I bought too many salts liquid that i can only take with pods. The TH is too strong for me if I use it in rta. Like I said, just started / beginner XD

    Cheers
    well, you should get a better vapestore and ask for help with the current hardware you have, all the important things such care, battery safety and plenty more,

    also forums like this one are amazing for people who is looking for help, seems you need help with several things,
     
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    YHX72

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    well, you should get a better vapestore and ask for help with the current hardware you have, all the important things such care, battery safety and plenty more,

    also forums like this one are amazing for people who is looking for help, seems you need help with several things,

    Hi, sorry for the late reply.
    I knew a few great people here helping me by teaching and giving me suggestions.
    I just made two new friends in Jakarta and the taught me different wicking styles these two days and that is why I wasn't be able to reply to threads and mails.

    In the end, the problem is at the atty. BSKR mini performs much better in flavor and the cotton will stay fresh for days. I am going to test my last atty "Gate" today. Should come in today. I will share the result soon.

    Regarding mod, I come to a conclusion that mods also performs differently. Though I only have two to compare Steam Punk 86 & Sirius 200. Resistance detection are off from the two. it shows .60 ohm at punk and .65 ohm shown at sirius. Once the reading was off, the power setting will also be different.

    I was planning to learn more like TC, preheat and curve but I need to get a new mod for those and I put those aside for now.

    Cheers
     

    P3ch3

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    I was planning to learn more like TC, preheat and curve but I need to get a new mod for those and I put those aside for now.
    DNA based mods are a plus for TC also some others shown great results, im using a little asmodus colossal for TC in my ammit, planing to use new incoming aegis solo for temp control on a zeus RTA, new everyday little soldier,

    Temp control is an amazing adventure, for SS, nickel and ti, i havent used ti wire yet, ni didnt got me where i as expecting and SS is the amazing metal, could do both, temp and wattage!

    I do suggest, get fully involved into RBA's, wire, Wattage for your start, learn how to roll coils, wick and try to make it better everyday, then when you have spent some time into it, you could move to temp control, so you came to this interesting duty with some experience on metal and coils, also is amazing to explore and stand a while on this other vape saga!

    i like going to stores sometimes from friends just to build, have some puffs and also a coffee, nice times!

    Regards,
     

    Jim A

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    I have been using the Ammit MTL RTA for about six months now. I love it. The flavor is the same as the Beserker with less hassle. I got used to the air flow in one day! If it gurgles, fluid in the air flow chamber, just vape sideways for a while and it clears up. Usually, this does not occur.

    Apparently the Ammit MTL RTA I bought from Gearbest is a clone. I had to hit the first one with a hammer as the chimney wasn't pressed on hard enough and blocked the air flow. The second one I ordered (black) worked perfectly.

    I wonder why nobody in the United States sells these. They are absolutely the answer for Building your own mouth to lung vaporizer. The beserker has great flavor but really messy because you can't fill them from the top without leaking at the bottom. The Ammit MTL RTA works perfectly. You'll like it.
     

    Jim A

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    Loved my Ammit MTL until this week. I also got mine from GB after they assured me it was genuine ( even better as it ended up free), however found your post when mine suddenly stopped having any air flow at all.
    Stripped it down as far as possible including removing the 510 and lifting off the deck. All air channels appear to be free and even tried tried without flow ring.
    How did you hit chimney? Inner or outer and how hard. Don't want to end up not being able to screw together again.
     

    P3ch3

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    I liked my Ammit and Ares just fine, both similar to the Beserker....but my Galaxies does edge them all for flavor with all using the same 0.6 ohm SS coil on TC 420F. The Galaxies uses a slightly different chimney design which may be the reason.
    mine is rocking a 1.15 ohm coil, SS316L TCR mode on asmodus colossal, also just to enduro aegis solo copied the settings into aegis TCR menu, both run amazing on TC, flavor is another level!

    Regards,
     

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    More than a month of trying v.hard to make this tank work... I am a 6 yrs RTA MTL vapist, never had so much of struggle homing in a RTA... Last tank was a Serpent Mifni, took 10 days to understand it and for the past 2-3 years, it was a re-wick every 3-5 days. Great flavour for 3 days, then it would be a slow degrade though still pleasurable till the 5th day. The Ammit MTL is a One day max, assuming it was well wicked, which is not a given...
    Trouble I have with the wicking (lose leak or tight dry hits aside) is that often one side of the wick will darken faster than the other side giving me a 'smoky' variant of my juice, which I don't like.
    I have it coiled just like the serpent (Kantal @ 1.6Ohms, 2.5mm) and wicked the same as well.
    So there you go, duration of a hard to achieve wick (one day) and the one darker side smokey taste is what am trying to tame in that tank.
    Nothing was wrong with my Serpent Mini, I just wanted a new toy with a bigger capacity.
    I also bought a Bsrkr, easier to work with, but it makes my juice taste metallic and dry (just the nuance, not a dry hit)
     
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