And now for the millionth request for liquid nicotine advice

[stols001]

Leg of lamb...… Large steaks... Could be anything. LOL.

Mine is also boxed for that reason and if I buy more nic it will be the "don't talk about kind" because the husband has had to seriously readjust his Costo expectations in the Chest Freezer.

Anna

 

[Zazie]

Yeah, I'm going to have to cut back on my freezer purchases and/or not freeze quite so many quarts of stock and such.

 

[DaveP]

Mine is stored in a corrugated box. The bottles are wrapped (rolled) in several layers of paper towels for padding and taped, then put into heavy duty freezer zip locks just in case there's leakage. So far, so good. I've opened a box after months in the freezer and inspected the contents, and even took a bottle out and unwrapped it to check for color change, then repacked it and put it back into the box.

So far so good. I have two liters frozen and my projections say that one liter of 100mg/ml nic will last me 9 years mixed at 3mg strength vaping 10ml +/- juice per day.

 

[susieqz]

i see nicotine is offered in various strengths.
is there some advantage in buying less than the most potent?

 

[Zazie]

I think it's just a matter of what you're comfortable handling. I originally planned to buy 100mg/ml but then moved up a notch to save freezer space.

 

[Brewdawg1181]

i see nicotine is offered in various strengths.
is there some advantage in buying less than the most potent?

I started at 48 because I thought it'd be more forgiving if I was off a little bit in mixing. Kept it at that a while, just because I always mix pretty much the same way, and it was easier. You get more for your money buying higher concentration, and it takes less storage space. But see my post #28 in this thread. Watch your shipping cost.

I did my order - not Vapocolypse yet, but just a test. I got some of the "hit" nic salts from Nic River. Did a lot of research, and it appears that the hit version is benzoic acid, and that's the one that seems most efficient (more so than the 2nd most common salicylic). I'll try it at the same 14mg level I've been mixing, and see if I can feel it hit the bloodstream faster. Maybe it'll slow me down a little in my mid-afternoon binges, or when I've had a couple of beers.

I usually order 48mg, because that's what I started with. I'd thought it'd be safer, and more forgiving if I was a little off. Then, I just kept using it because all my bottles were marked for easy juice mixing. I had 100mg in my cart, and was shocked at the cost. It was 3x the amount when ordering 100mg ($25 vs. $8). I didn't take a screen shot, but there was a popup with some sort of info about higher shipping for over 60mg nic, because it was considered hazardous, I believe.

 

[stols001]

Safety mainly I would think. If I ever get to "that" liter I plan on diluting it all at once, immediately. I don't feel I have to wear gloves or freak out over a 100 mg/ml spill. Washing it off etc. seems to be sufficient. I haven't had a major spill but if I did, 100 mg/ml nic isn't going to cause much harm.

Anna

 

[Zazie]

I didn't get max. That stuff scares me to death.

 

[stols001]

No I don't think I want to be anywhere near a substance that requires and I mean REQUIRES a chemical hood to work with and etc. I don't think most places even SELL it and I sort of hope not. Because that would be a terrible, terrible mistake to make for a new DIYer.

We should halt this discussion I think it's not allowed.

However, 100 mg/ml nic is TEN PERCENT nicotine. Not that strong, although really, it's still plenty of nicotine. It is NOT 100 PERCENT nic, which is pretty much well , it can be fatal and all that. Don't do it. Don't even think about doing it. Just don't.

Anna

 

[puffon]

I can confirm 86, 125ml bottles, packed 4 in a small flat rate USPS box (easier to stack)
will fit into a 3 cu ft, freezer, with room to spare.
Turned up just past "normal" setting gets it to -15 deg.

 

[Zazie]

I'll be nervous enough with what I ordered, thank you very much.

 

[Zazie]

I can confirm 86, 125ml bottles, packed 4 in a small flat rate USPS box (easier to stack)
will fit into a 3 cu ft, freezer, with room to spare.
Turned up just past "normal" setting gets it to -15 deg.

Ah, but I have to cram my eighteen similarly sized bottles in a freezer already filled to bursting. It's going to be a challenge, and I'll begrudge the space, but it's for a good cause.

 

[puffon]

Ah, but I have to cram my eighteen similarly sized bottles in a freezer already filled to bursting. It's going to be a challenge, and I'll begrudge the space, but it's for a good cause.

Understand. I was doing that for a couple years, till the better half objected...
With the extra small freezer, there's now room for nic and more food...

 

[susieqz]

thanks for the info guys. i didn't understand the danger involved.
i'll still have to get a strong mix.
this idea of reducing frozen stock is crazy.

 

[somdcomputerguy]

The Vapocalypse Calculator informs me that four liters of 100mg/nl liquid nicotine should last me at least twenty years

Interesting. My 'Vapocalypse Calculator' tells me a liter of 1000 mg/ml nic will yield (for me) for 75 years.. and that it would cost me less than $350 if I took the unflavored (75/25/25 PG/VG/nic) path. I wonder if 'eliquid donor banks' are available, or I guess you could just leave your 'leftover base' in your will or something..

 

[Zazie]

Interesting. My 'Vapocalypse Calculator' tells me a liter of 1000 mg/ml nic will yield (for me) for 75 years.. and that it would cost me less than $350 if I took the unflavored (75/25/25 PG/VG/nic) path. I wonder if 'eliquid donor banks' are available, or I guess you could just leave your 'leftover base' in your will or something..

I'll have to add a codicil bequeathing all my gear and supplies to ECF to distribute to needy members.

 

[Katya]

I didn't get max. That stuff scares me to death.

It's good to have a healthy respect for 10% (100 mg/ml) nicotine base, but there's no need to be scared to death. I have several small (250 ml) bottles of 10% nic in my freezer and have been diluting it for years without an incident. Just make sure there are no small children, cats, etc. running around when you work with nicotine. You may choose to wear thin gloves, just in case, but I don't do it anymore, honestly. Just be careful, measure your diluents exactly (PG or VG) and label everything!!!!

 

[Zazie]

Yes, the cats are going to be shown the door before I do anything.

 

[Brewdawg1181]

It's good to have a healthy respect for 10% (100 mg/ml) nicotine base, but there's no need to be scared to death. I have several small (250 ml) bottles of 10% nic in my freezer and have been diluting it for years without an incident. Just make sure there are no small children, cats, etc. running around when you work with nicotine. You may choose to wear thin gloves, just in case, but I don't do it anymore, honestly. Just be careful, measure your diluents exactly (PG or VG) and label everything!!!!

I think Zazie's talking about being afraid of 1000mg, and actually ordered 250mg.

I think it's just a matter of what you're comfortable handling. I originally planned to buy 100mg/ml but then moved up a notch to save freezer space.

 

[Zazie]

I think Zazie's talking about being afraid of 1000mg, and actually ordered 250mg.

You are correct, sir.