Another mod explodes

[DC2]

I am pretty sure air bags have saved far more lives than they have hurt; same as with seat belts...

Tell that to the families of the people killed by them, what do you say? Ooopsie?

Regardless of the argument that protecting us from ourselves may or may not be a good thing...

How many vapers have been killed by exploding mods?
And how many vapers may have been saved from the effects of smoking for a lifetime?

I think the answer is pretty clear, to the unbiased folks who understand the science.

 

[stevegmu]

How about those amazing regulatory bodies you hold in such high regard should do their jobs and avoid those tragic end results all together?

Ultimately the manufacturer is responsible for defective products. Say I am running air brake tubing on my line at work. The design of the product meets NHTSA, SAE and a host of other standards. I check samples, as does QC, but if bad product goes go out the door, and there is catastrophic failure in the field, ultimately it would be me and the company I work for which is responsible, not NHTSA, which doesn't test a sample from every reel I make...

 

[zoiDman]

Regardless of the argument that protecting us from ourselves may or may not be a good thing.
(HINT: It's not)

How many vapers have been killed by exploding mods?
And how many vapers may have been saved from the effects of smoking for a lifetime?

I think the answer is pretty clear, to the unbiased folks who understand the science.

Jeeze... Hundreds of Thousands at the Very Least. Vapers are Dropping like Flies out there.

It is a Widespread Pandemic in My Mind.

As soon as I post this, I'm going to Write Boxer and Diane F and tell them, No - Demand, that they Do Something about this.

 

[stevegmu]

Regardless of the argument that protecting us from ourselves may or may not be a good thing...

How many vapers have been killed by exploding mods?
And how many vapers may have been saved from the effects of smoking for a lifetime?

I think the answer is pretty clear, to the unbiased folks who understand the science.

I see. Once enough people die, then regulation should take place...

 

[JoppaRoadCruiser]

I am pretty sure air bags have saved far more lives than they have hurt; same as with seat belts...

You seem pretty sure of that....

The Hidden Danger of Seat Belts - TIME

http://www.fiberpipe.net/~tiktin/Documents/Cover2.pdf

http://reason.org/news/show/do-seatbelt-laws-save-lives

There seems to quite a few hits when you search "seatbelt safety" and "are seatbelts safe" indicating that this is by no means a fringe or "extremist" position. Just something to think about.

 

[stevegmu]

Seat Belts and Air Bags are a Example of Good Regulation.

And Millions and Millions of Dollars was Spent and Countless Man Hours were performed to Ensure that they were as Effective/Safe as Possible.

Do you think the Same should be Done for Flashlights?

I wonder what the Income Tax Increase would have to be and the Size of the Government that would be Needed is Every Product that ran off a Battery had to Undergo the same Testing and Evaluation that Seatbelts and Airbags did?

You seem to think every product sold which is regulated has undergone the testing seat belts and airbags have...

 

[DC2]

I see. Once enough people die, then regulation should take place...

No, not at all. You are right, and I never saw it until now.

We need to stop all things that can ever kill anyone under any circumstances, no matter how low the number of deaths.
No matter what the percentages say.

Which would pretty much eliminate everything, everywhere, at all times.

If you eat salmon, please stop, now!
Oh, wait, that's already regulated to your satisfaction?

 

[stevegmu]

You seem pretty sure of that....

The Hidden Danger of Seat Belts - TIME

http://www.fiberpipe.net/~tiktin/Documents/Cover2.pdf

Reason Foundation - Do Seatbelt Laws Save Lives?

There seems to quite a few hits when you search "seatbelt safety" and "are seatbelts safe" indicating that this is by no means a fringe or "extremist" position. Just something to think about.

Well, if a geography professor says seat belts don't save lives, then I'm sold... I suppose helmets don't save the lives of bikers, either...

 

[zoiDman]

You seem to think every product sold which is regulated has undergone the testing seat belts and airbags have...

OK.

Well then tell me Steve, what Regulations are Needed (in Your Mind) for a e-Cigarette Mod to be Sold in this Country?

 

[DavidAmonettNashville]

I see. Once enough people die, then regulation should take place...

I propose we ban Old age as it has killed billions.

 

[stevegmu]

No, not at all. You are right, and I never saw it until now.

We need to stop all things that can ever kill anyone under any circumstances, no matter how low the number of deaths.
No matter what the percentages say.

Which would pretty much eliminate everything, everywhere, at all times.

If you eat salmon, please stop, now!

Perhaps you don't see the difference between regulation and elimination of a product... Short of malfunction, not a single gun has ever killed anyone. Should there be no regulations concerning firearms?

 

[stevegmu]

I propose we ban Old age as it has killed billions.

That's part of ACA...

 

[zoiDman]

I see. Once enough people die, then regulation should take place...

Fair Enough. So Let's start from Square One.

How Many people have Died from e-Cigarettes Exploding in this Country Every Year?

How Many people have Died from e-Cigarettes Exploding in this Country Total?

How Many People Use e-Cigarettes in this Country?

 

[stevegmu]

OK.

Well then tell me Steve, what Regulations are Needed (in Your Mind) for a e-Cigarette Mod to be Sold in this Country?

UL or CE certification.

 

[DC2]

...what Regulations are Needed (in Your Mind) for a e-Cigarette Mod to be Sold in this Country?

It will be a challenge to answer that question in a one sentence reply.

 

[JoppaRoadCruiser]

Well, if a geography professor says seat belts don't save lives, then I'm sold... I suppose helmets don't save the lives of bikers, either...

Hey man its just something to look into. Not sure what a geography professor has to do with it. Never said anything about helmets either.

 

[stevegmu]

Fair Enough. So Let's start from Square One.

How Many people have Died from e-Cigarettes Exploding in this Country Every Year?

How Many people have Died from e-Cigarettes Exploding in this Country Total?

How Many People Use e-Cigarettes in this Country?

No idea, but given the trend in the industry and poorly made PRC devices, give it time...

 

[stevegmu]

Hey man its just something to look into. Not sure what a geography professor has to do with it. Never said anything about helmets either.

Perhaps you should read your own links... I have heard the same argument concerning helmets...

 

[zoiDman]

It will be a challenge to answer that question in a one sentence reply.

Yeah... Its Easier to just say we Need Something.

 

[zoiDman]

No idea, but given the trend in the industry and poorly made PRC devices, give it time...

Gotcha. No Idea.

But you are Firmly Convinced that we Need the Government to step in an Do Something.

You would make a Good Politian.