they have not been shipped yet, but from we've been told is that it has a cleaning mode that you pop a bottle of distilled water and run it through to clean out the tubes.
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they have not been shipped yet, but from we've been told is that it has a cleaning mode that you pop a bottle of distilled water and run it through to clean out the tubes.
Wait ... that's what so many people said about the Provari... too much money, or i'll wait and see.
Then there were those months of people posting about the wait once they got on the bandwagon. Get in the back of the line.
I'm smiling because there are quite a few reasons NOT to be skeptical, negative or derogatory. (not saying anyone here is).
1. People that i consider veterans, mentors in vaping... some quite expert in technology steered me, clued me in, where the notice or advertising left off in the case of the Vari, and the Eclipse, and the Buzz.
2. The reputation of the builders/designers and vendors is important. These folks know their stuff.
3. The due diligence, research, production logistics and investment in such ventures are staggering... hint; do you really think they are going to be flimsy or flash in the pan if they have to invest so much time and money to put a state of the art device on the market ?
Has the Provari or Darwin been worth the cost of multiple eGo or eGo clones massed produced in the far east? Ask any owner.
4. These are American business ventures by innovators in a new industry... vaping ... taking financial risks. They deserve our support and appreciation for better products.
5.They deserve to make a profit of course... but imo, the bulk of the satisfaction is from the owners, like me who will NEVER Go back to unregulated pv's.
Then there were those months of people posting about the wait once they got on the bandwagon. Get in the back of the line.
I'm smiling because there are quite a few reasons NOT to be skeptical, negative or derogatory. (not saying anyone here is).
1. People that i consider veterans, mentors in vaping... some quite expert in technology steered me, clued me in, where the notice or advertising left off in the case of the Vari, and the Eclipse, and the Buzz.
2. The reputation of the builders/designers and vendors is important. These folks know their stuff.
3. The due diligence, research, production logistics and investment in such ventures are staggering... hint; do you really think they are going to be flimsy or flash in the pan if they have to invest so much time and money to put a state of the art device on the market ?
Has the Provari or Darwin been worth the cost of multiple eGo or eGo clones massed produced in the far east? Ask any owner.
4. These are American business ventures by innovators in a new industry... vaping ... taking financial risks. They deserve our support and appreciation for better products.
5.They deserve to make a profit of course... but imo, the bulk of the satisfaction is from the owners, like me who will NEVER Go back to unregulated pv's.
$300 is what I used to spend in a month on cigarettes, so the cost doesn't mean much to me. I got lucky, and have so far only owned regulated devices. I was terrified when I spent what I spent on my Darwin, but now I couldn't imaging not having it. The eclipse will be either a hit or a miss, but I imaging if it's a hit, it will be a huge one. Either way as long as companies are laying out the cash to innovate vaping technology, I'll support them as long as there is substance to support the hype.
No my Infinity has a thumb wheel the new pro has a different juice well and wheel and should be out in 5 weeks or so. The New Buzz with a thumb wheel should be out in a week or so.
You could be right now that I think about it they may read the resistance just to see if it should fire or not. In the same way the Provari make no good use of it other than informational. All the videos were made some time ago and who knows what as been added or changed.
It has rare earth magnets that hold the juice bottle in. The cover doubles as a screwdriver so you can take the battery out. The people that have them are swore to silence till it is released.
The latest video I know of was a few months ago can be found here. Then click the "Digital Ciggz...Product Introductions" pic. The designers go in to the whys and hows. With a short demo.
Thanks Debian Dog.
Definitely an interesting & informative video. It took me a few minutes to figure out where it was on BasilRay's page, but if you click the link below, you'll be taken right to the vid:
Digital Ciggz Eclipse EQ First Look - BasilRay
Make sure to watch right to the end too, haha...there's a funny bit.
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PROS
OK, so Michael & Mario appear to be very nice, commendable guys. They obviously care about the vaping community...and they've put a lot into this. I do think the Eclipse eq could use some key revisions still, but regardless...kudos to them.
What this video has taught me is that the Eclipse eq is very nicely built. The rare earth magnets are super-solid. The body looks far more solid & durable than I had imagined. Everything looks like it fits really well. The electric pump is definitely a step up in performance from juice-fed devices that simply squeeze a bottle. The recirculating juice well is another excellent innovation.
CONS
You knew there'd be cons, lol. From what I've seen so far, I don't like the menu system with the 'power wheel.' Unlike the ProVari, it's not at all intuitive or simple. It uses similar sequences for very different functions. And whether you're adjusting voltage, or entering a 'preprogrammed feed sequence'...the power wheel's lights look exactly the same.
So you really have to know & remember the sequence for what you're doing...because there aren't any numbers or letters or anything. There's no LED display, or alphanumeric display at all. Expect to be consulting the manual quite a bit at first, until you manage to memorize the sequences (good luck with that).
Some of the functions are of questionable necessity too (like the previous user-setting memory), or seem redundant. For example, the Control Lockout is apparently meant to prevent accidental firing in your pocket. So why is there also a Sleep Mode? Two features that seem to do the same thing. There's probably a difference I'm not just clueing in to so far, but yeah.
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In short, this is a somewhat complicated PV. With the ProVari, there was zero confusion. Very intuitive & easy to comprehend, with a nice, clear alphanumeric LED display.
I've always loved how the ProVari works...but if you're one of those who finds its button-press menu system annoying, you're definitely not going to like the Eclipse eq's system. Press here two times, then press there & hold for three seconds, press some more in another place, but don't press over there, then hold this button down, then tap twice, etc...geez. I'm exaggerating a bit, but honestly not by much. Maybe people won't have a problem in this area...but some will. This could & should be simpler.
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I just realized that the Eclipse eq is also missing one of the key features that the ProVari has: multimeter functionality. The ProVari has this built-in. It's so easy to use & so comprehensible that even if you've never seen a multimeter before, let alone had the first clue about how to use one...you're golden. A few presses of the ProVari's lone button, and the display will show you the ohms rating (the resistance) of your atty or carto...or how much battery life you have left. I use this feature a lot, not just because it's useful (it really comes in handy)...but because it's so convenient.
I'm also questioning the durability of the exposed part of the Eclipse eq's feeding tube. What if something happens to that part, like it gets torn or punctured or something? It seems like it could get caught on something pretty easily, especially if it was tossed into a bag with some other stuff. Can this PV be used without the feeding system?
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CONCLUSION
So yeah, in my view...the menu system / power wheel is the weak point of the Eclipse eq. The exposed part of the feeding tube might also be a bit too prone to damage, I don't know.
If this PV had an alphanumeric LED display, as well as multimeter functionality...I might buy one. But as it stands, the lack of these is a dealbreaker for me. I'll save my dough for a second ProVari (really looking forward to the pink one they have in the works!). Or a third, as a gift for someone special!
If you consider the combination of the electric juice-fed pump with short-circuit protection, variable voltage, regulated power output etc to be a worthy tradeoff for the somewhat more difficult menu & the lack of built-in multimeter capability...you'll like the Eclipse eq. But if the juice-fed action isn't critical for you...go with a ProVari.
Anyway...happy vaping everyone!
Definitely an interesting & informative video. It took me a few minutes to figure out where it was on BasilRay's page, but if you click the link below, you'll be taken right to the vid:
Digital Ciggz Eclipse EQ First Look - BasilRay
Make sure to watch right to the end too, haha...there's a funny bit.
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PROS
OK, so Michael & Mario appear to be very nice, commendable guys. They obviously care about the vaping community...and they've put a lot into this. I do think the Eclipse eq could use some key revisions still, but regardless...kudos to them.
What this video has taught me is that the Eclipse eq is very nicely built. The rare earth magnets are super-solid. The body looks far more solid & durable than I had imagined. Everything looks like it fits really well. The electric pump is definitely a step up in performance from juice-fed devices that simply squeeze a bottle. The recirculating juice well is another excellent innovation.
CONS
You knew there'd be cons, lol. From what I've seen so far, I don't like the menu system with the 'power wheel.' Unlike the ProVari, it's not at all intuitive or simple. It uses similar sequences for very different functions. And whether you're adjusting voltage, or entering a 'preprogrammed feed sequence'...the power wheel's lights look exactly the same.
So you really have to know & remember the sequence for what you're doing...because there aren't any numbers or letters or anything. There's no LED display, or alphanumeric display at all. Expect to be consulting the manual quite a bit at first, until you manage to memorize the sequences (good luck with that).
Some of the functions are of questionable necessity too (like the previous user-setting memory), or seem redundant. For example, the Control Lockout is apparently meant to prevent accidental firing in your pocket. So why is there also a Sleep Mode? Two features that seem to do the same thing. There's probably a difference I'm not just clueing in to so far, but yeah.
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In short, this is a somewhat complicated PV. With the ProVari, there was zero confusion. Very intuitive & easy to comprehend, with a nice, clear alphanumeric LED display.
I've always loved how the ProVari works...but if you're one of those who finds its button-press menu system annoying, you're definitely not going to like the Eclipse eq's system. Press here two times, then press there & hold for three seconds, press some more in another place, but don't press over there, then hold this button down, then tap twice, etc...geez. I'm exaggerating a bit, but honestly not by much. Maybe people won't have a problem in this area...but some will. This could & should be simpler.
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I just realized that the Eclipse eq is also missing one of the key features that the ProVari has: multimeter functionality. The ProVari has this built-in. It's so easy to use & so comprehensible that even if you've never seen a multimeter before, let alone had the first clue about how to use one...you're golden. A few presses of the ProVari's lone button, and the display will show you the ohms rating (the resistance) of your atty or carto...or how much battery life you have left. I use this feature a lot, not just because it's useful (it really comes in handy)...but because it's so convenient.
I'm also questioning the durability of the exposed part of the Eclipse eq's feeding tube. What if something happens to that part, like it gets torn or punctured or something? It seems like it could get caught on something pretty easily, especially if it was tossed into a bag with some other stuff. Can this PV be used without the feeding system?
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CONCLUSION
So yeah, in my view...the menu system / power wheel is the weak point of the Eclipse eq. The exposed part of the feeding tube might also be a bit too prone to damage, I don't know.
If this PV had an alphanumeric LED display, as well as multimeter functionality...I might buy one. But as it stands, the lack of these is a dealbreaker for me. I'll save my dough for a second ProVari (really looking forward to the pink one they have in the works!). Or a third, as a gift for someone special!
If you consider the combination of the electric juice-fed pump with short-circuit protection, variable voltage, regulated power output etc to be a worthy tradeoff for the somewhat more difficult menu & the lack of built-in multimeter capability...you'll like the Eclipse eq. But if the juice-fed action isn't critical for you...go with a ProVari.
Anyway...happy vaping everyone!
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I'm with you on the Eclipses menu system Rachel, and was also initially put off by it as well. I would have preferred a LCD type screen, (color touchscreen anyone?) but I feel that once I have the unit in-hand and play with it a while all of the functions will probably become second nature. That's what I'm assuming anyway, I could end up being very wrong, ya never know.
In the end though, I figured that being able to see information on a display such as resistance and voltage might not be all that important. After all, it's all about the quality of the vape; so as long as it delivers the vape I'm looking for, who cares what the numbers are? If I stick a LR atty on it, it knows and will compensate. Stick a HR atty on it and it'll do the same. Old atty with resistance though the roof... well, you get the idea. I'd imagine once I get the pump dialed in for my e-liquids viscosity, then it's probably just a matter of tweaking the voltage for optimal taste/vapor production for that particular juice. With 6ml of fluid on demand I probably won't have to screw with the settings too often to achieve the result I'm looking for. That's my assumption anyway, we'll see how it all pans out once I get the thing. Don't get me wrong though, I'd still prefer that color touchscreen.
As far as the exposed feed tube is concerned, we'll see how that works out as well. I know the tubing is replaceable, so if it gets butchered it can always be swapped out. I'm hoping it won't be an issue. The manufacturer did state that you can pull the feed system off of the atty and direct drip should you ever want to (to test a few drops of new juice, for example) for whatever that's worth.
In any event, I can't wait to get my hands on mine.
In the end though, I figured that being able to see information on a display such as resistance and voltage might not be all that important. After all, it's all about the quality of the vape; so as long as it delivers the vape I'm looking for, who cares what the numbers are? If I stick a LR atty on it, it knows and will compensate. Stick a HR atty on it and it'll do the same. Old atty with resistance though the roof... well, you get the idea. I'd imagine once I get the pump dialed in for my e-liquids viscosity, then it's probably just a matter of tweaking the voltage for optimal taste/vapor production for that particular juice. With 6ml of fluid on demand I probably won't have to screw with the settings too often to achieve the result I'm looking for. That's my assumption anyway, we'll see how it all pans out once I get the thing. Don't get me wrong though, I'd still prefer that color touchscreen.
As far as the exposed feed tube is concerned, we'll see how that works out as well. I know the tubing is replaceable, so if it gets butchered it can always be swapped out. I'm hoping it won't be an issue. The manufacturer did state that you can pull the feed system off of the atty and direct drip should you ever want to (to test a few drops of new juice, for example) for whatever that's worth.
In any event, I can't wait to get my hands on mine.
Congrats on your new beauty, Haadkoe!
If I were you, I'd be just as excited. It's like an extended X-mas eve when you have something like this on the way. Yay!
I was probably overstating the menu issues earlier. All I really meant was that it's not as simple as the ProVari's. But that doesn't mean you can't get used to it, or that it's not a great PV. I love the multimeter functionality built-in to the ProVari too...but only she & the Darwin presently have that. Lack of such hasn't stopped hundreds of other models from doing great.
Anyway, congrats again & all the best. Hope you'll show us some pics when she arrives!
I was probably overstating the menu issues earlier. All I really meant was that it's not as simple as the ProVari's. But that doesn't mean you can't get used to it, or that it's not a great PV. I love the multimeter functionality built-in to the ProVari too...but only she & the Darwin presently have that. Lack of such hasn't stopped hundreds of other models from doing great.
Anyway, congrats again & all the best. Hope you'll show us some pics when she arrives!
I watched the video. I can see me pulling the manual out at the bar.... dam that must have been the pump I changed, what was voltage again... oh crap it's in sleep mode. what if I smack it on the table (typical male primate response that becomes more prevalent the more beer we consume)
I am glad some folks see the need for this device and I have no issues with that. However, folks do need to read the features that are not actually features but the normal functioning of a PCB.
What features are inherent in a Printed Circuit Board which you would like to make us aware of?
Any better videos out there? As in, not a bunch of guys sitting on a couch where I can barely see the PV that's being reviewed?
This is the only other video that I know of for it.
YouTube - The Eclipse eq Promo Spot
YouTube - The Eclipse eq Promo Spot
Please do your own homework.
As stated I am glad folks have a need for this and I am cool with that. I am sure you will enjoy your acquisition. OTOH it has been abundantly clear that regardless what some more knowledgeable vapers will say you will have a counter argument, and I am cool with that to. I gave up arguing
Video by VapeTVLive: Live Recording - 03/27/2011 04:01
There's another link with a pretty long look at the Eclipse. Starts around the 5 minute mark.
There's another link with a pretty long look at the Eclipse. Starts around the 5 minute mark.
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