Ok...now that my blood pressure has increased 20 points reading this thread, I'll try not to rant(too much).
IMO, anyone who thinks the genie can't be stuffed back in the bottle is severely mistaken. Vaping can be cut off at the knees in so many ways, its absolutely disgusting. We have to worry about flavors, nic levels, online sales, local and state usage bans, taxes and once e-cigs are DEEMED officially tobacco We may have the PACT act to deal with as well. If Nicotine is made less accessible forget about your black market being any good. I for one only are willing to vape Nic that is USP. I don't want some crazy backyard extraction process to be the way I get my NIC.
I disagree on the severely mistaken part. Sounds good for political tripe, but unless you can name something else that has been literally cut off from humanity, I think it is tripe put forth.
- Flavors aren't going to disappear, nor will humans not have access to them
- Nicotine as a schedule 1 controlled substance by the biggest superpower on the planet will not cut it off from consumption. If history is any guide at all.
- online sales going bye bye would mean we are in an Orwellian world, and not allegedly in it, but actually in it.
That leaves usage bans and taxes.
One front of this war is here on ECF. I can start the umpteenth thread on vaping in public and have around 30% (maybe more) of all vapers who care about political issues of eCigs tell me how rude and utterly harmful it is to the cause to vape pretty much anywhere in public.
Honestly, on most of the issues that are up for discussion, one need not look over yonder for the so called enemy to the pro vaper. Some vapers really want regulation of manufacturers and are very okay with usage bans. I've seen ECF vapers say, if you vape where I'm eating, I'll tattle on you and enjoy watching you get kicked out of that establishment. Boy, thanks for helping with the cause there. Now that the so called rude members of our great society have found vaping, you still think we stand a great chance of winning on all fronts of the war? I'm thinking if we have vapers amongst us that have problems with certain types vaping going on, that the non vapers might have questions while the anti vapers just can't wait to exploit the rude vapers to make the key point of - don't vape anywhere, it is rude to do so!
I'm not sure if there is a current issue on the table that I, a pro vaper, wouldn't take the side of actual freedom with, and thus disavow unreasonable control, debate those who care to debate it. And I'll likely continue to run into fellow vapers who keep seeking control of some sort. Won't anyone think of the children? Yep, even that is working against us, by us. Ban sales / possession to everyone under 18, and then think those who are anti-vaping ain't going to use that against us? Just as us so called adults will find a way around those who must have control on vaping, I'm a guessing those of us under 18 will always (and I do mean always) find workarounds to make a mockery out of this incessant need to control what others are up to.
Sure Senator, of course we agree to ban possession to persons under 18. But do you think, um, that we adults could vape in this way or at that location for at least another week? Pretty please!
But seriously, not only is it important for vapers to make themselves heard, but what about the FAMILIES of vapers, who maybe don't smoke or vape themselves, but hey, they get to have us around for a while longer, and make a lot fewer trips to hospitals and funeral homes! I think the voice of those who DON"T vape, but who see what a blessing it is and can be, that will resonate even louder in the public eye -- like the commercials made by family members of those who've died-while-texting, or hit by a drunk driver.
