Are you "addicted" to e-cigarettes?

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The main reason I have no desire to eliminate nicotine. Reduce it, as my body tells me to (poor sleeping, etc.), but not eliminate it.

I figure at my age, I need all the help I can get. ;)
I had gotten my Mom to quit analogs years ago and she is having some cognitive issues - wonder if I should turn her on to vaping...lol/.
 

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I am addicted - although I usually do not use that word - it's a habit. We all have some kind of habit whether it's good or bad that would be hard to stop - shopping, golfing, smoking, gambling, drinking...I've been smoking analogs regularly since I was 11 and never made a serious attempt to quit. When I would run out of analog cigs - watch out - I'd be crazy irritable - same way with coffee.

Because of this forum answering all my "dumb" questions I made the move to e cigs a little over a year ago to get off of analogs. That was my goal. I hear and read about other folks who say it took them a while because they'd still smoke analogs - not in my case - from my first "e-puff" I never went back. I say that I smoked analogs for 20, 30 years but it is actually 40 years as a heavy chain analog smoker.

So I think that's a pretty amazing thing to not miss analogs at all and a testament that vaping is satisfying. Since I now use a mod I say that I vape and do not even use the e-cig term much. Am I addicted? Sure - it's a habit and a much better one than analogs.

I've been blessed so far with great health and feel even better now - not as much wheezing and I do not get winded as easy.

So addicted yes - but in a good way for me.
 

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Whenever I ask people why they vape its never cause they are addicted and need the nicotine. Nobody wants to admit being an addict. Its always something else such as they like the flavors or think it looks cool.

I was addicted to CIGARETTES for 39 yrs; THAT's why I vape. It seems to have turned into a steadily-lessening dependence now -- but real addiction never goes away, even if you stop using the substance you're addicted to, so I will very likely vape for quite some time to come, if not for the rest of my life.

It's like methadone -- those who are addicted to street narcotics who use methadone are definitely still dependent on methadone, because they are still addicted to the street narcotics -- even if they haven't used those narcotics in a long time. I haven't had a drink in 23 yrs, but still very much an alcoholic.

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The main reason I have no desire to eliminate nicotine. Reduce it, as my body tells me to (poor sleeping, etc.), but not eliminate it.

I figure at my age, I need all the help I can get. ;)

Ditto every bit of that. :thumb:

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Whenever I ask people why they vape its never cause they are addicted and need the nicotine. Nobody wants to admit being an addict. Its always something else such as they like the flavors or think it looks cool.

I vape 0mg nic, from the beginning, one year now, but I still have cravings!?...addicted though, (currently trying to vape on weekends only) I would say no, addicted to shiny gear and ECF, yes :)
 

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I'm 66yrs old, smoked for 50yrs ... haven't had a ciggie for over 2yrs now
I took up vaping as an alternative to smoking, and it's worked, I started at 36mg, then went to 24mg, which I still use ... I did try lowering it but the satisfaction just wasn't the same ...
I'm a tootle puffer mostly, not interested in TC or sub ohms ...
Am I an addict? don't know ... don't care ( and neither should anyone else ( imo)
 

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Whenever I ask people why they vape its never cause they are addicted and need the nicotine. Nobody wants to admit being an addict. Its always something else such as they like the flavors or think it looks cool.
In my experience here on this forum I have found many more people who have trouble admitting that they might not be addicted to nicotine, and that maybe nicotine by itself is no where near as addictive as the world has been led to believe. Does that mean that none of us are addicted to nicotine? Of course not. That would be like saying that no one who drinks alcohol is addicted to alcohol.
 

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I will also change some of my routines. One at a time, just targets on the battlefield.
That's actually one of the things I worked on this year. I wanted to get even farther away from the habits I established as a smoker. The only one I'm holding on to is vooping. :blink:
 

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I am addicted - although I usually do not use that word - it's a habit. We all have some kind of habit whether it's good or bad that would be hard to stop - shopping, golfing, smoking, gambling, drinking...I've been smoking analogs regularly since I was 11 and never made a serious attempt to quit. When I would run out of analog cigs - watch out - I'd be crazy irritable - same way with coffee.

Because of this forum answering all my "dumb" questions I made the move to e cigs a little over a year ago to get off of analogs. That was my goal. I hear and read about other folks who say it took them a while because they'd still smoke analogs - not in my case - from my first "e-puff" I never went back. I say that I smoked analogs for 20, 30 years but it is actually 40 years as a heavy chain analog smoker.

So I think that's a pretty amazing thing to not miss analogs at all and a testament that vaping is satisfying. Since I now use a mod I say that I vape and do not even use the e-cig term much. Am I addicted? Sure - it's a habit and a much better one than analogs.

I've been blessed so far with great health and feel even better now - not as much wheezing and I do not get winded as easy.

So addicted yes - but in a good way for me.
I thought I'd follow up with this interesting tidbit - I had MAJOR dental work recently and was told not to smoke including vaping - I''ve had dental work before and never really followed the recommendation because I'd be climbing the walls and was very "foul" if I did not have an analog. Actually if I did not have an analog every few minutes I was foul. Fast forward - over a year of vaping - I had Dental work - big time work - and was told I should try to hold off as long as possible with vaping - I did not vape for 2 full days and I was not foul and crazy. After the 2 days I wanted to and did so gently for another 2 days and then back to chain vaping.

So vaping is definitely (per my experience) a habit for me. I was way addicted to analogs - crazy addicted - once I got off analogs and all the crap they put it in - I gradually reduced the nic level and now vape low nic 4-6% and vape all day/all night because it is a habit but I do not feel I am addicted to vaping.
 

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I am dependent on nicotine, and my dependence does not compare in the least to a real addiction. We've been taught (erroneously) by the medical community that dependence and addiction are interchangeable, but there really is a big divide between chemical dependence and a full-blown addiction.

I've lost people near and dear to me and seen lives destroyed because of addiction.

The day I wipe out my sister's checking account to buy nicotine, I'll call myself an addict. Until then, I'm just a semi-normal, well-adjusted person with a (decreasing) dependence on nicotine.
As my understanding goes, dependence is a physiological state whereas addiction is a psychological state. Users of alcohol or narcotics will develop a physical dependence on having the particular drug in their system as a matter of normalcy; take the drug away and they will suffer real, physical symptoms of withdrawal. Addiction is an established behavioral pattern that has endless multitudes of forms, symptoms and impact, with many possible causes for the addiction to develop. Addicts believe that they "need" whatever fulfills their addiction in order to feel "normal"; addicts can experience real physiological symptoms when removed from the addictive behavior though those symptoms are usually psycho-sematic in nature. To complicate matters, addiction and dependence often co-exist, which leads to the confusion over the application of the terms.

Dependence can be broken by eliminating the presence/intake of the drug; the body will eventually adjust to the lack of the drug in the system and return to normal. Addiction is harder to break as it usually requires isolating the triggers for the cause and sustaining of the addictive behaviors, and behavioral and cognitive changes by the addict away from being susceptible to triggering circumstances. There is also evidence that people are genetically predisposed to addictive behaviors, which make the "breaking" of acquired behaviors all the more difficult.

In light of that, yeah, I'm addicted to vaping. I broke my dependence on cigarettes by exchanging the behavior of smoking with vaping. I'm still addicted to the habit of having something for my mouth and hands to do which smoking filled, and now vaping has taken that place. I've cut my nicotine levels down to 3mg for the majority of what I vape and would like to be at 0mg by this time next year. But I will probably still want to vape to fill that habitual need for the smoking action.
 

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Well, I can't say for sure as I've never tried to quit. I can tell you one thing though; there have been uncountable times when I forgot about vaping altogether and thought to myself, "I should probably take a hit". In my 25+ years of smoking I never forgot to smoke.
 

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Nicotine dependant -YES It focuses my brain. The hand to mouth with vaping is relaxing and calming.However I am a flavor junkie with all my DIY liquids.

So to answer your question I started vaping to get a healthier nicotine delivery system. Looking cool ,well thats just me I can't help it;)
 

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I am definitely addicted to nicotine. Vaping is the least harmful way for me to maintain and slowly reduce that habit. I started vaping in Early 2011. I started on 36mg juice. I am down to 1mg, and plan to be on 0.5mg next month. I hope to be off the nicotine completely by next July. It has been a long long trip, but it is nearly over. I will probably still vape after I'm off the nicotine. At least for a few months. Placebo and all that :)
I don't think you're addicted to nicotine in the true sense of the word. It seems as if you're dependent on nic since you were able to wean yourself by systematically stepping down your nic level.
If you were really addicted, you'd have a compulsive need to vape, even at the expense of your everyday responsibilities.
I'm sick of people misusing the word "addiction" as a way to demonize the "other" because the "addicts" have a habit the ANTZ don't like.
 
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