Wow, very generous of you. That + a dab of blue loctite on the screw that still works should make this box last a while longer. Glad I got 5 more picos on the way.
I bought another Dovpo Punisher and Bellus this morning (37 bucks shipped). Got home from work and found my mailbox stuffed with 8 packages. I'm kind of losing track of all the crap I'm buying! It's a good thing I'm divorced already or it would definitely be coming soon...
Semiretired, as fast as this market has moved the past 3'ish years, it does feel like some of my stash is antique
In 2009 - about 2011 or 12, I can recall sitting up into the wee hours of the morning hitting refresh waiting for the next new thing to be added to a website so we could purchase before others bought and it was instantly sold out.
I mean, these vendors would put the item up on their site and MANY times, within minutes, their stock of 100+ was GONE. You had to be there when they posted the item was up on the site and you had to be fast to get one.
The vendors liked keeping us on our toes and man was it ever exciting. I miss those days but I do not miss the failure of alot of released items.
They usually got their new stock delivered in the late afternoon. Once they checked their order in, they then would take photos and get it up on the site as quickly as possible no matter what time of day or night.
AND, if you liked it, you had better order a .... ton of it and QUICK. Back then, the factory liked making 'tweeks' QUICKLY after a release. A 'tweek' back then usually = awful and the item was never the same again.
How many revisions were there on the c2's????? MANY
Now, when something is released, it is pretty much good to go.
Back then, man alive the modders on ecf had to find 'fixes' for us on many items just so we could vape it.
There is no telling how many items have been cut open, dissected, found the issue, dissected or pull parts from other 'duds' along the way and used pieces from OTHER carto's etc to fix the new 'best thing in vaping' so it could at least attempted to be vaped on
We NEVER tossed ANYTHING. Usually down the road something from the old was needed for the new so it could be fixed and somewhat vaped on. AND I use 'somewhat' loosley here.
In the early days of vaping, you REALLY had to WANT to be off cigs to stay with vaping because it was a struggle getting things that just worked.
Now, things have been lined out and vaping has exploded.
If it were not for the folks here on ecf that tackled tearing things apart to try to find a fix, vaping would not be what it is today.
I was here but I was not good at figuring out what was wrong and fixing things. I THANK those early folks here on ecf. Without them, we would not be where we are today as far as tanks etc go and if it had not been for them, I would have said forget this and went back to smoking cigs never looking at vaping again.
I feel like those folks have been forgotten about and they should be praised for their efforts in the early days of vaping.
Kanger, aspire etc would listen to the folks here and try to fix the issues.
Back then, they released things that did not work and basically relied on the folks on this forum to help them figure out WHAT would make them work.
The guy from Sun vapers was the man who got the protank on the market. He designed it and worked closely with Kanger to make it happen. There was a video on his website back then. I am not sure if the video is still around. He basically told us how the protank was developed.
The protank paved the way for where we are at. After the protank, things just clicked as far as bottom coils are concerned and it has moved swiftly every since.
Before the protank, bottom coil tanks were a leaking, gurgling unbelievable mess.
I remember when I bought my 1st Provari. It had a 6 week lead time. Can you believe that??? There was a 6 week waiting list for a Provari
Now, the past 3'ish years, things have hit the market so quickly I can not and stopped trying to keep up.
Oh the early days of vaping. How far we have come......................................
I don't have a record of which vendors it was but I got at least 25 emails from Chinese and US vendors to select which mods/tanks/wire they thought would sell. TemCo and UD Tech were two of them. I started getting the emails after I emailed them and recommended some changes to their products. They are all ears believe me.
Omg, pretty much the crowd they shouldn't be aiming for, lol.LOL - good for the 8-12 crowd
You very best bet is to order smaller bottled base, sealed with Argon, say 125ml rather than 250ml, and 250ml rather than 500ml. Once the bottle is open, oxidation goes much faster.
If you have larger bottles and have to break them down: move from freezer to refrigerator, then after a day bring them to room temp. Re-bottle in to smaller bottles, leave very little BUT NOT ZERO headroom, spray with Argon gas to expel oxygen, and reseal...placing as much as you can back in to freezer.
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Nicotine base should be kept as cold as you can get it. -20F if possible. Nicotine may be used for 6+ years with no losses if it remains unsealed and in a freezer. We do not know how many years past 6, but the bet is currently indefinitely (as far as you lifespan is concerned - 20yrs is expected if sealed with Argon gas.).
Nude Nicotine's owner is a chemist too, with a gas chromatograph analyzer. I'd like to see them debate it out, but I trust NN.
I have a gallon or Armor V1 and V2 and I'm buying more.
If 10% of the molecules oxidize and you have two batches of 2000ml, one stored 100mg/ml and the other 10mg/ml. How much oxidation do you have?
10%. It does not matter the concentration.
I ordered something today from FT that I think is so clever! It works on 510 connections plus you have a flashlight if needed
That's just brilliant! I'm going to order one too.
So you think he maybe...dabbles with the books and takes the trouble to add the inert gas, Argon for the heck of it? Hilarious. Read the links, read what is written, understand what has been done by other scientists, and weep for spending money on nicotine base that has not been sealed with Argon gas, which is supposed to be stored for a decade.
Gas chromatograph tests tell you explicitly what you have in a bottle to be sold, and how it has decomposed over time.
There are not a whole of of choices out there. NN just ticks off the boxes for me.
* Store in glass (Armor V1, V2) vs store in plastic of questionable performance and which may be coated in BPA.
* Store with inert gas (such as Argon or other inert gas, Armor V1, V2) and displace the oxygen in the bottle, or store with oxidizing oxygen in the bottle.
* Store in bottle with solid cap(Armor V1) for the decade, or a special cap which can be accessed with a luer slip syringe(Armor V2).
* Everyone is moving nic base from plastic to glass, and creating more oxidation through the addition of exposure to oxygen beyond the bottling process.
I look at raw data and applied logic and make my own choices. I don't have a bone to pick with Kurt or anyone else. I am more than capable of understanding the technologies involved. I am not a chemist but have 1.5yrs of collegiate chemistry so I get it. I can read and understand what is being discussed.
What is my background? I am a Junior in the prog for a BS in Computer and Electrical Engineering at Iowa State University. I have a BS in Management Information Systems from Iowa State University. I have an AA in Architecture, AS in General Studies, AAS in Cisco Internetworking and several certificates in information systems.
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The pink provari 2.5 are still on sale. ProVari Pink Ribbon Electronic Cigarette Those with the red LED are gone... at the moment. Order fast.
Supposedly this is a really good deal. Because I love you guys (and the thread I read it in everyone already ordered theirs)
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