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rosesense

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    If nothing goes our way, our future is very bleak. Stock up everyone so you have a buffer, you are just buying ahead and will use it anyway, take advantage of these great Labor Day sales :)
    You are so bad :evil: Just placed my very last order!! at OSDIY. I am done, I tell ya.

    Finally finished organizing/labeling. Fit it into 2 big plastic tubs, 2 stand up cabinets and about 7 smaller containers, not counting the 4 gals of pg/vg.
     

    DingerCPA

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    For those asking about the CLR and eGo ONE tanks - I have a number of them and love them. However, I just noticed the top ring of one of my CLR heads has SPLIT :shock: which pretty much renders it useless in my book. First one, and I can't remember how long I've had these. They get used at least once a week. Only thing I really struggle with is that this top sometimes doesn't come loose from the chimney when I take off the base. I have to fish it out with a toothpick or something. Other than that minor inconvenience, I am quite pleased with the tanks and the heads.
     

    oplholik

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    not sure if they have hangsen but just so you/everyone knows that OSDIY discount is all month long.

    No Hangsen's. Next stop is RTS, but when I checked them a few days ago they didn't have everything either.
     

    daleron

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    lol, still in triple battery mode: just took a vape and set it down and noticed the screen flashing. took another and the battery indicator was switching between percent view and charging indicator, then it went to black screen with a large battery charging indicator, now back to normal view with with battery percents switching back and forth to a small battery charging icon... it is obv not plugged in

    now flashing from main screen to a screen saying to 'check usb adapter'. Guess I am sending this one and the 2 unopened ones back.
    WOW, you seem to have the worst luck of anyone I've ever seen on ECF :(

    It's not catching is it? :unsure:
     

    Fozzy71

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    WOW, you seem to have the worst luck of anyone I've ever seen on ECF :(

    It's not catching is it? :unsure:
    In my defense, I have likely bought more new mods the past 2 months than most on here since I wasn't aware of the deeming til I joined recently. I went a bit overboard I think but I still want to buy more. :p
     

    daleron

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    In my defense, I have likely bought more new mods the past 2 months than most on here since I wasn't aware of the deeming til I joined recently. I went a bit overboard I think but I still want to buy more. :p
    Aw, no defense required ;)

    I really wanted one of those Wismec 2/3's but after seeing so many unhappy comments around ECF about them I've decided to take a pass on those :?: I do love my originals tho' :thumb:
     

    schismz

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    So what is the deal with this regulation thing? Like are all the mods, tanks, coils, etc. available right now going to be kiboshed completely or just kept under watch?
    The federal laws are pretty bleak, the hope would be that during the 2 year period that began on August 8th, where nothing new is allowed on the US market, will give time for some of the pending lawsuits to get traction and push back the FDA's insane over-reach. SOME of this will probably work, i.e., the FDA attempting to regulate wick, wire, flavorings, batteries, which is just bordering on insane/silly and their agency has no actual authority to regulate. The secondary part would be pushing back the "legacy" date for e-cig related technology from 2007 (when basically nothing of any use was on the market), up to the date of the regs starting, which is Aug 8th (which would make it possible for MOST products on the market, to stay on the market). In my opinion, both of these avenues for attacking the FDA's attempt to destroy the vaping industry as it now exists, have merit/possibility.

    The secondary problem is that individual state laws are coming into play, which can be much harsher and more restrictive than the FDA's federal regs, so you may not have 2 years time to stock up; everything could change for you next month depending on where you live. Tied into this is the problem of availability, B&Ms have started closing and many more will probably follow -- part of this is probably a natural market correction which has reached complete saturation from too many sellers, but a significant problem arises if this accelerates due to B&Ms closing because they simply cannot sell any new products or technology, which customers can then go buy direct from China, other countries, and the grey/black markets which will emerge as a result of prohibition. If B&Ms or larger companies cannot survive during the "dark ages" which began on August 8th, then there won't be anyplace to buy what you're looking for anymore.

    What you can be absolutely certain about:

    - Access to nicotine base is going to become much more restricted and expensive.
    - It will be harder to obtain hardware if no sellers have any stock left or have gone out of business.
    - It will be difficult for companies within the US such as ProVape.
    In the here and now, ProVape is lagging behind Dicodes. Dicodes simply has a better chip and better tech. They seem to have "borrowed" a lot of ideas from ProVape and then run with them and created something better. In free-market capitalism, this is the part where ProVape does same, and comes out with a P4 (or whatever), which kicks Dicodes 4ss in (for the next 6 months), and then Dicodes will leapfrog ProVape again, and so on. This is the normal state of free-market capitalism. It's healthy competition which benefits the customer (a wider choice, of better products, at competitive prices), and it benefits good companies (the customers keep buying the new and improved products). The problem is, the FDA has artificially constrained and crippled ProVape's ability to compete in the open market, because they can't release any new products post August 8th. (I'm using ProVape as an example, but really it applies to any e-cig related technology originating within the US.)

    Basically: the entire vaping industry is currently in a holding pattern. The floor will drop out from under customers, state by state, as individual states introduce additional legislation. The companies in a holding pattern trying to wait out the lawsuits during the coming 2 years, may, or may not survive long enough for less onerous regs to be introduced and replace the current deeming regulations.

    For the most part: the vaping industry within the US is currently on the course for complete destruction of what we have now (open systems), and the introduction of closed-systems, by larger companies (usually backed by either cigarette companies or big pharma).

    Vaping is a $4billion+ a year industry; there is major money flooding into e-cig companies from investors, it's not something that's going to just go away or roll over and die, there's way too much money on the table. However, at the present time it seems likely that 99%+ of what exists right now, won't exist 2 years from now, and the customer will have the choice of a small handful of proprietary, tamper-resistant, closed systems, which are heavily taxed and far more expensive than what we're used to.

    The reasonable solution (in my opinion and most/many others on this thread), is to stock up on what you like, so you have the leisure to watch the soap opera unfold, without having any of it directly and personally affect YOU. "Oh wow, the entire e-cig industry just got flushed down the toilet! Well... it could all be much worse, these could be my problems, but.. they're not, because I have enough gear and materials to last the next 2 decades, so f--k the FDA, vape on."
     
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    Mrmik

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    The federal laws are pretty bleak, the hope would be that during the 2 year period that began on August 8th, where nothing new is allowed on the US market, will give time for some of the pending lawsuits to get traction and push back the FDA's insane over-reach. SOME of this will probably work, i.e., the FDA attempting to regulate wick, wire, flavorings, batteries, which is just bordering on insane/silly and their agency has no actual authority to regulate. The secondary part would be pushing back the "legacy" date for e-cig related technology from 2007 (when basically nothing of any use was on the market), up to the date of the regs starting, which is Aug 8th (which would make it possible for MOST products on the market, to stay on the market). In my opinion, both of these avenues for attacking the FDA's attempt to destroy the vaping industry as it now exists, have merit/possibility.

    The secondary problem is that individual state laws are coming into play, which can be much harsher and more restrictive than the FDA's federal regs, so you may not have 2 years time to stock up; everything could change for you next month depending on where you live. Tied into this is the problem of availability, B&Ms have started closing and many more will probably follow -- part of this is probably a natural market correction which has reached complete saturation from too many sellers, but a significant problem arises if this accelerates due to B&Ms closing because they simply cannot sell any new products or technology, which customers can then go buy direct from China or other countries. If B&Ms or larger companies cannot survive during the "dark ages" which began on August 8th, then there won't be anyplace to buy what you're looking for anymore.

    What you can be absolutely certain about:

    - Access to nicotine base is going to become much more restricted and expensive.
    - It will be harder to obtain hardware if no sellers have any stock left or have gone out of business.
    - It will be difficult for companies within the US such as ProVape.
    In the here and now, ProVape is lagging behind Dicodes. Dicodes simply has a better chip and better tech. They seem to have "borrowed" a lot of ideas from ProVape and then run with them and created something better. In free-market capitalism, this is the part where ProVape does same, and comes out with a P4 (or whatever), which kicks Dicodes 4ss in (for the next 6 months), and then Dicodes will leapfrog ProVape again, and so on. This is the normal state of free-market capitalism. It's healthy competition which benefits the customer, and it benefits good companies (the customers keep buying the new and improved products). The problem is, the FDA has artificially constrained and crippled ProVape's ability to compete in the open market, because they can't release any new products post August 8th. (I'm using ProVape as an example, but really it applies to any e-cig related technology originating within the US.)

    Basically: the entire vaping industry is currently in a holding pattern. The floor will drop out from under customers, state by state, as individual states introduce additional legislation. The companies in a holding pattern trying to wait out the lawsuits during the coming 2 years, may, or may not survive long enough for less onerous regs to be introduced and replace the current deeming regulations.

    For the most part: the vaping industry within the US is currently on the course for complete destruction of what we have now (open systems), and the introduction of closed-systems, by larger companies (usually backed by either cigarette companies or big pharma).

    Vaping is a $4billion+ a year industry; there is major money flooding into e-cig companies from investors, it's not something that's going to just go away or roll over and die, there's way too much money on the table. However, at the present time it seems likely that 99%+ of what exists right now, won't exist 2 years from now, and the customer will have the choice of a small handful of proprietary, tamper-resistant, closed systems, which are heavily taxed and far more expensive than what we're used to.

    The reasonable solution (in my opinion and most/many others on this thread), is to stock up on what you like, so you have the leisure to watch the soap opera unfold, without having any of it directly and personally affect YOU. "Oh wow, the entire e-cig industry just got flushed down the toilet! Well... it could all be much worse, these could be my problems, but.. they're not, because I have enough gear and materials to last the next 2 decades, so f--k the FDA, vape on."

    Darn!
    I did stock up to some degree and hesitated to do more. I guess I am too positive that it will turn out alright. What I have is good for at least 2 years both for hardware and juice and I kept on thinking it is a long time until then. I feel like it was yesterday I started subohm 2 years ago so it might as well be tomorrow when my stash is out.
    Back to shopping........
     

    rosesense

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    Also, good to keep in mind how many years you think you might want to vape. I am older so don't really need this much stuff but hey, I will (hopefully) NEVER have to give one penny to anyone connected to making this mess happen. In my case, my state will probably tax the crap out of anything still on the market and I don't want to give them one dime after our legislators were so pro FDA deeming regs.
     

    J.d. Roberts

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    Also, good to keep in mind how many years you think you might want to vape. I am older so don't really need this much stuff but hey, I will (hopefully) NEVER have to give one penny to anyone connected to making this mess happen. In my case, my state will probably tax the crap out of anything still on the market and I don't want to give them one dime after our legislators were so pro FDA deeming regs.

    I concur. It's why I've also been buying lots and lots of juices lately.. I've stocked up to almost 6 months worth of my favorite bulk premiums and lots of 30ml top shelfs..
     

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    In, say, twenty years, when this prohibition ends, some of our items, particularly authentics, are going to be valuable collector's items. I aim to have one gus kiss. I can only get what I want the most, since money is so short.
     

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